Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 5 -7, 2003

Various | November 5, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT (Thread 5 - November 5-7) (Link back to Thread 4 - Nov. 3-4)

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Contained in Thread 4:

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Resource links to search business and criminal records in Florida, info on special guardian ad litum meeting (attempt to change qualifications?), Michael Schiavo parody, link to referral letter for Dr. Hammersfahr to the Nobel committee, transcript to Abrams Report closing commments - Nov.3, e-mail address for Larry King Live, Florida statutes on guardianship and some damning statements against Michael.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

I know we're all getting tired, but we have to hang in there. This isn't just Terri's fight anymore. It is our fight too. To everyone who has worked tirelessly to gather information, write letters, make phone calls, spend time in prayer, be at the vigil supporting Terri's family and all the many other offerings you have given for this effort, thank you and may the Lord richly bless you.

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Latest Threads On Terri's Case

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Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign!

[supercat]

Greer may not want the lawsuit to proceed with Bush! That may be his reason for having a change of heart suddenly.

I hadn't thought of that, but you're right! On the other hand, I just realized something even better: think about what Wolfson was appointed to do. Now recognize that thanks to Michael's lawsuit, Wolfson's duties now take on a whole new light. Methinks Schiavo/Felos made a REALLY BIG mistake.

Well, actually, not too big a mistake, if they can formulate some excuse for quietly dropping their lawsuit against Bush. After all, if they drop their lawsuit Bush would no longer have any legal basis for discovery. On the other hand, their claims that the law is unconstitutional might lose traction if the lawsuit is dropped.

[sfRummygirl]

I know, but just remember that the reason he/she/it signed up was to do just this.
If you suspect anyone as being a troll, just hit their name and see when they signed up. Even though there are always new conservatives, if someone signed up that obviously and posts mostly exclusively about Terri (wishing her dead), then they are a troll.
Might even be crappy 'ol Felos, anyway, for all we know.

[MSCASEY]

I was wondering why Greer had a sudden turn around and having discovery and being drug out in the open may be it!

I think your right Felos made a big mistake! In a way I hope he thinks he is smart enough to go on, then the truth will get out!

MCD

[Wampus SC]

"The right to life is as fundamental as it gets and traitors have undermined our law to deny it. The right to speak and worship freely is as human as it gets and traitors are working to destroy that freedom.

No quarter nor refuge, public or private, should be given to traitors of our own country. No deference made to the words they speak. No excuses made on their behalf. No tolerance, save our own compassion for the sanctity and dignity of human life, for their presence among us."

Doggone right, TigersEye! Usually their whines and snipes can be safely ingnored, and often they should be. But at times when their words begin to embody something more immensely darker, powerful and evil than just mere yammerings - they must be confronted. At those times it's a moral duty.

[Coral Snake]

I wonder where this guy fits in on sweetliberty's troll scale. I have my own Death Culture Troll scale and it goes like this:

Type 3 Troll, General Death Culture Whackjobs.

Type 2 Troll, American Genocidal Nuts.

Type 1 Troll, WORLD Genocidal Nuts.

On my scale I'd rate him at somewhere between the cusp of three and two with his attitude problem with Christians.

[msmagoo]

I can understand why some people might write a living will that would protect their own right to die, if that is their wish, though I can hardly believe they would find it painless or peaceful...but I truly do not understand those who call for the death of Terri Schiavo.

Life is too precious to be adjudicated away. The interaction between Terri and her family IS meaningful, and thus her life has meaning regardless of her disability. If there was no one to care for her, kiss her, touch her - then she would still be alive but her life would have less meaning, because the interaction with others would be missing. She would truly be locked inside a shell, with nobody trying to enter her world.

But Terri is blessed because her family is ready and willing to accept her as she is; they are willing to love her unconditionally despite her disability. They are willing to enter her world, and she does resond to them!
I would say that Michael is NOT willing to love her despite her disability, and he does not wish to enter her world, nor is he capable of doing so.

I think in any case where guardianship is contested, and there is no living will, guardianship should go to the person who is willing to care for the disabled person with the goal of rehabilitation. It should never go to the person with any financial benefit in death, or someone who, like Michael, callously inflicts emotional torture on other family members by insisting on death as an expression of the patient's wishes, when there is no living will.

Why does Michael deny Terri's family the comfort of caring for their own flesh and blood, when Michael himself insists she died 13 years ago? His concept of "caring for Terri" is dehydrating and starving her to death - torturing her and her family!

How can such people live with making the killing of a living human their stated mission in life? How can ANYONE defend someone like Michael Schiavo or George Felos? Everything they do is the epitome of heartless cruelty and selfishness. There is NO LOVE for God or Life in their hearts!

[msmagoo]

LOL and please, where does Mary Jo Melone fit into that scale?

My vote: Type 3 Troll-in-Training

[Wampus SC]

"Why do we see it so clearly, while others can not?"

There's supposed to come a time when some will open their eyes and ears, and others will shut theirs. Everyone has already chosen their side in their hearts, if not verbally.

[sfRummygirl]

HA-HA!
Yes, Felos is actually very scary. I agree with you. The more I hear his words the more frightened I am. He seems to be the type to start a cult. Literally.

[Coral Snake]

who is Mary Jo Malone. Never seen her on FR.

[sweetliberty]

"I'd rate him at somewhere between the cusp of three and two with his attitude problem with Christians"

Nah....ignorance attacks what it doesn't understand.

[Coral Snake]

Displaying pictures of infamous people and equating them with trolls is just one of my favorite ways of RAZZING this death culture just as using infamous songs like Marching Through Georgia is. ;c)

[msmagoo]

She is the author of numerous Terri-should-die articles for the St. Petersburg Times.

I don't think she is here at FR, any more than Felos or MS is, but she is sympathetic to their cause, thus my nomination.

[Coral Snake]

One thing I'm sorry about however is that the trolls finally found the daily threads. ;c(

[Wampus SC]

OK. I'm through now. :)

(No, not that troll, I'd sent him to my roundfile way back.)

[Graymatter]

On msnbc, Abrams Report replay on now, 2:15 am est. An update on the Schiavo case with Pat Anderson and George Felos, coming up shortly.

[Wampus SC]

Arrgh.

send=sent

[sweetliberty]

"I'm sorry about however is that the trolls finally found the daily threads"

Not to worry. "Ignore" and "mock" are your best weapons. they'll go away. It won't be fun for them if they can't push our buttons.

[Budge]

Did you know that one of the "gods" spoke about 8:51 tonight - right here on this thread?

"...she is PVS, if you would quit the bibliobabble..."

[oreolady]

Can I get the address for Terri's parents @ home?
I thought I had seen it posted once on a thread, I do not want to send money to the org, where legally, MS could still get his hands in the pot!!
I would rather get it to them personally!!!
Or even to floriduhvoter? (would have to be personal check or moeny order to her, tho)
Ideas?
Yes, me,too feel great about having had a small part (emailing to everyone) in this sort of "rescue".
I began tonight, the two books by Smith, "Death Culture" and his follow-up after that one, but thru all this event, think we have a long battle, not just one victory, they already have a hold on the public eye, just look at Oregon's assisted kills already! (Did anybody notice how quickly, effortlessly, without any debate Medicare decided to pay for this suicide?) Someone said it is illegal for medicare to pay, but I am pretty sure they already do pay for it!!! I will try to find out.