Commerce clause abuse

TownHall.com ^ | Wednesday, November 5, 2003 | Walter E. Williams

[JohnHuang2]

Wednesday, November 5, 2003

Quote of the Day by semaj

[sourcery]

"Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle, and quick to anger!"

[bassmaner]

The courts began caving in to congressional tyranny during the 1930s

The mother of all commerce clause abuses was passed in 1937: the Marihuana Tax Stamp Act.

[palmer]

Let's see how many hypocrites here say that violating the commerce clause to create a do-not-call list is just fine. The commerce clause is meant to facilitate commerce, the do-not-call lists inhibits commerce, therefore it is unconstitutional.

[jmc813]

WOD Ping

[jmc813]

This article sums up why so many liberdopians are against the Federal WOD.

[CWOJackson]

I know that this is an excuse they use a lot.

[Jack of all Trades]

..The Constitution's Article I, Section 8, paragraph 3 gives Congress authority "To regulate Commerce with Foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

Regulate and facilitate do not have equivalent meanings. IMHO regulation of telemarketers is a heck of a lot closer to the original intent of this section than the vast majority of the crap spewing out of congress pposing as valid laws.

[jmc813]

I know that this is an excuse they use a lot.

Is JimRob included in "they"?

[Atlas Sneezed]

Thus, the original purpose of the Commerce Clause was primarily a means to eliminate trade barriers among the states. They didn't intend for the Commerce Clause to govern so much of our lives.

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Here's how I think of it: The Commerce Clause was written to PREVENT governmental impediments to free commerce (e.g. state tarrifs).

Now it is being used as the prime enablement of governmental impediments to commerce, precisely contrary to the original intent of protecting freedom of commerce.

[CWOJackson]

JR?

I don't seem to recall the last time I saw him on one of the legalize dope threads using any of the prevailing arguments.

[robertpaulsen]

"This article sums up why so many liberdopians are against the Federal WOD."

I'm sure there was a huge* Libertarian rally against the Gun Free Schools Act and the Violence Against Women Act.

*huge Libertarian rally = a group of 5 people

[Dane]

I know that this is an excuse they use a lot.

Kinda of like when they hide behind the suffering of others when they tout medical marijuana.

[philman_36]

The commerce clause is meant to facilitate commerce, the do-not-call lists inhibits commerce, therefore it is unconstitutional."
Then a "No Solicitors" sign on a door inhibits commerce.
To me the do-not-call list is a "No Solicitors" sign for telephones.
By your estimation I should be fined, if everyone follows the logic Wickard vs. Filburn, for having a sign on my door telling salesmen not to bug me!

[jmc813]

I don't seem to recall the last time I saw him on one of the legalize dope threads using any of the prevailing arguments.

Last month...

"I do not support the federal war on drugs. I don't think it passes constitutional muster. Crime fighting, including drug crimes (other than international smuggling, etc) should be left to the states and local jurisdictions. I also do not support no knock raids, asset forfeiture, unauthorized wire taps or snooping into bank accounts, etc. All unconstitutional." - Jim Robinson, 10/03/2003

[jmc813]

I'm sure there was a huge* Libertarian rally against the Gun Free Schools Act and the Violence Against Women Act.

I think it is a safe bet that all of the FR loserdopians are against these acts.

[Dane]

I think it is a safe bet that all of the FR loserdopians are against these acts

And that is why there are dozens of threads posted on FR each day about those issues by Libertarians and such rhetoric as that there are millions of college students in prison pounding rocks for violating the "gun free school act".

Dude, JMO, stop digging yourself a deeper hole.

[jmc813]

Are you claiming that us pro-druggies support those bills?

[Dane]

Are you claiming that us pro-druggies support those bills?

Either stop deliberately playing dumb or learn how to read.

Get back to me when pro-drug Libertarian #1 on FR, Leroy, starts spamming the news forum with threads about the gun free school act, instead of articles from obscure sources about the drug war.

[philman_36]

You're such a glutton for punishment jmc813. You got a "Kick Me" sign on yourself today?