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The Anti-American Right
NewsMax ^ | November 5, 2003 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 11/04/2003 3:08:17 PM PST by quidnunc

Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn’t it? It’s the Left — liberals, left-wingers, socialists, commies, pinkos, the Noam Chomskys and Alec Baldwins and Barbra Streisands — that hates America. But the Right – good old flag-waving patriotic God Bless America conservatives? How could they possibly be anti-American? It sounds ridiculous.

Yet whatever sense or nonsense it makes, anti-Americanism is seeping into the entire conservative movement and is threatening to splinter it into pieces.

I’m not talking about the racist nuts, the white supremacists and militia types. I’m talking about mainstream heartland conservatives. Howard Phillips, head of the famed Conservative Caucus, is one of the founders of the entire modern conservative movement in America. He is a dear friend whom I care for personally, with whom I worked closely on organizing support for the Reagan Doctrine in dismantling the Soviet Empire.

Yet Howard Phillips’ writings and speeches now are indistinguishable from those of Howard Dean’s in their outpouring of vitriol and condemnation of President Bush, accusing him of “war crimes against the people of Iraq.”

Jon Utley, an influential conservative writer and activist of long anti-Communist standing during the Cold War, has simply gone around the bend in his hatred for everything America does in terms of foreign policy and everything the Bush administration does, foreign and domestic.

The same is true for conservative economist Paul Craig Roberts, whose syndicated columns have become so rabid that they seem deranged with hate – such as the claim that the Bush administration is “organizing genocide for Arabs.”

David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union, organizer of the annual C-PAC conference (the largest gathering of conservatives in the country) and member of the Board of Directors of the National Rifle Association, is now in bed with the ACLU in its efforts to demonize Attorney General John Ashcroft and prevent the Patriot Act from catching Moslem terrorists.

Former Congressman Bob Barr, who led the impeachment of Bill Clinton in Congress and is also an NRA board member, has become a paid whore for the ACLU, and now makes a living bashing Bush and Ashcroft.

The single most influential conservative activist in Washington, Grover Norquist, is being investigated by the FBI for his long-standing connections to a network of financiers of Moslem terrorists.

There are many people in Washington who look upon Grover as the conservative movement’s most valuable asset. His Americans for Tax Reform is in the forefront of the entire conservative tax reduction effort.

Yet ATR shares office space and staff with the Islamic Institute at 1920 L Street. The same receptionist answers both groups’ phones. Grover is the founding chairman of the Islamic Institute and got the seed money from Abdurahman Alamoudi, just indicted by federal prosecutors for financial connections to al-Qaeda terrorists.

Grover is the conservative movement’s “gatekeeper” to Karl Rove and the White House, yet he is doing everything he can to demonize John Ashcroft, recently appearing on a panel with Alec Baldwin to denounce the attorney general.

Grover is amazingly smart, talented and influential. The source of his pro-Moslem obsession and his passionate defense of radical Moslems linked to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda is a mystery to many.

The source of many conservatives’ and libertarians’ hatred for America is, however, no mystery: the baneful influence of the founder of the Libertarian Party, Murray Rothbard. He is the reason why so much of the entire libertarian movement is in bed with the hate-America left, and why so many conservatives are getting under the same covers.

The intellectual parents of the libertarian movement are philosopher Ayn Rand and economist Murray Rothbard, whose followers caused an ideological split in the movement in the 1970s. Randian libertarians are pro-defense, pro-America; Rothbardians are the opposite. Tragically, the latter seized control of the Libertarian Party and have not relinquished it since.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: acu; antiamericanism; antiwarright; bobbarr; conservatives; cpac; davidkeene; enemywithin; grovernorquist; howardphillips; jonutley; libertarians; norquist; paleocons; paulcraigroberts
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To: arete
So you compare Bush and his supporters Nazis, and so do the Democrats.

You are who you quote.

It also shows the depth of ignorance of both the Democrats, and yourself.

You either have no earthly idea of what Nazis were truly like (you would not be around to post tomorrow..anywhere), or you are just dumb enough to think that anyone with any sort of sense will actually listen to you.

You want to leave the GOP?

Good riddance.
61 posted on 12/11/2003 9:30:38 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: rmlew
"He has not secured our borders."

That's right, you would want troops running around border towns stopping the deadly invasion of dishwashers and room maids from Mexico.

"He refuses to fight islamism in America."

That's right, fight the people that caused yuou no harm, and defend our freedoms by persecuting a religion in absolute violation of the First Amendment. Brilliant!

"Frankly, he failed to define the enemy."

Do you actually live on this planet?

"...or propose the necessary force structure to defeat the threat."

In other words, he has not dropped nukes in places where we all know the enemy is NOT hiding, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the process, so that instead of fighting groups of thughs, we can beging fighting a billion people scattered throughout every nation in the world.

"He has sought to fight a world-war peicemeal and on the cheap."

Oh yeah, so speaks the Wespoint graduate. We should let keyboard jocks run the military.

"There are members of the right who are either purposely ignorant"

I'm not sure aI consider you to be a member of the right.

62 posted on 12/11/2003 9:42:45 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: quidnunc
This is pretty rich, a bunch of Canadians, Israelis, and their tools and dupes calling the last remaining adherents of the principles of the Founding fathers of this once-free nation-Anti American.
63 posted on 12/11/2003 9:46:25 PM PST by KO5A (Should I go on?)
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To: arete

Ho hum. We've seen these Losertarian-DNC talking points before.

64 posted on 12/11/2003 9:47:11 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: KO5A

Ho hum. We've seen these Losertarian-DNC talking points before.

65 posted on 12/11/2003 9:48:19 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: quidnunc
"Howard Phillips is head of that dopey Constitution party.

Is this subtly irony, or are we beyond irony?

66 posted on 12/11/2003 9:48:33 PM PST by KO5A (Should I go on?)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Ho hum. We've seen these Losertarian-DNC talking points before.

Unless you post with a point and not merely as rhetorical bodily-functions I'm not going to read your posts.

67 posted on 12/11/2003 9:51:05 PM PST by KO5A (Should I go on?)
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To: KO5A
KO5Awrote: ("Howard Phillips is head of that dopey Constitution party.) Is this subtly irony, or are we beyond irony?

Neither, it's a fact.

The Constitution Party is dopey and Phillips is its head.

Live with it!

68 posted on 12/11/2003 9:51:28 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
Thank you for answering my question.
69 posted on 12/11/2003 9:53:43 PM PST by KO5A
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To: gdc61
Jew haters out of the closet.

Gawd I hate the the despicable slurs by bigots like you. If you disagree with Jesse Jackson, you're a "racist." If you disagree with neoconservatives, you're a "Jew hater." It's the same vile tactic of name-calling. And why should opposing the war in Iraq make one a "Jew hater," any more than opposing the invasion of Haiti by Clinton made one a "Jew hater"? Are you saying the Iraq war was fought for Jewish interests? IF that's what you're saying, you sound like an anti-Semite yourself.

70 posted on 12/11/2003 10:03:02 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: PhilDragoo
Why is it antisemitic to oppose the war in Iraq? That charge implies that the war is being fought for Jewish or Israeli purposes - - - exactly the same thing that the antisemtic president of MAlaysia claimed (he said the US is fighting Israel's war). Are you claiming the same thing? How else can one interpret your suggestion that opposing this war is the equivalent of antisemitism? Would you claim that opposing the Vietnam War made one an antisemite? So why do you claim that opposing the Iraq war makes one an antisemite? Anyway, people like you, who hurl the antisemite slur promiscuously, make me hurl. They're no different from Jesse Jackson calling anybody who disagrees with him, a racist.
71 posted on 12/11/2003 10:08:29 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
yea thats right, Jew haters and a few fascists mixed in for good measure. which are you? oh yea, theres the Bush-haters! maybe your one of them!..... islam gooood Jews and Christians baaaaad.......yep neocons.
and....yes, one of the main reasons besides terrorism that we are in the mideast is to stablize the region in order to focus on the Isreali/palastinian conflict. whether you LIKE it or not. Isreal is the ONLY democracy in the region and the U.S. should support them. SOME americans, are anti-Isreal. this article lists a few.
72 posted on 12/12/2003 6:51:42 AM PST by gdc61
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To: quidnunc

Well this is just stupid.

I myself support the war in Iraq and the war on terror, but being against the war on Iraq or against President Bush is not "Anti-American."

Hell, the very suggestion that dissidence is "anti-American" is itself, anti-American.

73 posted on 12/12/2003 6:56:27 AM PST by Eris
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To: JohnGalt
Ping back to your "Who are these new FR people? "

They are those who twist words ala Alice in Wonderland using the Commie 'smear them with name calling' technique. They call Pro-America folks Anti-America.

Who are they? They are those willing to sacrifice America in endless war for the interests of their trade or political favorite.

The Afghan effort to get bin Laden was in American interests. Kosovo, Iraq, NK, Taiwan, Kuwait, Iran, Syria, and the Rock of Gibraltar are not.

74 posted on 12/12/2003 8:19:17 AM PST by ex-snook (Americans need Balanced Trade - we buy from you, you buy from us. No free rides.)
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To: gdc61
You're just a bigot. No more paying attention to you, jerk.
75 posted on 12/12/2003 8:23:07 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: gdc61
What is your opinion on the pro-abortion David Frum?
76 posted on 12/12/2003 8:25:08 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: arete
"More like a top level meeting of the RNC."

Apparently you have forgotten all about the Clintoon administration giving China MFN trading status, and the whole Loral rocket technology given to China fiasco. During a Democrat administration, of course.

77 posted on 12/12/2003 8:42:49 AM PST by FBD ("A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier."--H.L.Mencken)
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To: FBD
I know it's hard to tell the difference between Clinton and Bush (except the sinks) but Bush did the final deed on May 17, 2000.

"Mr Bush urged members of Congress to set aside partisan concerns and "join together to make China a normal trading partner of the United States."

Speaking to Boeing workers in Seattle, Mr Bush said that it was in the United States' best interest to encourage the goals of "freedom, security and economics" in China.

That would not be accomplished "by hindering free trade or seeking to isolate China."

I imagine the author of this piece was a neo-con[com].

78 posted on 12/12/2003 9:06:48 AM PST by ex-snook (Americans need Balanced Trade - we buy from you, you buy from us. No free rides.)
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To: quidnunc
Maybe these "anti-American" conservatives are just not enamored of the Bush Administration. Does anybody here want to make the case that W and company are really conservative?
79 posted on 12/12/2003 9:11:13 AM PST by jaime1959
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