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The Anti-American Right
NewsMax ^ | November 5, 2003 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 11/04/2003 3:08:17 PM PST by quidnunc

Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn’t it? It’s the Left — liberals, left-wingers, socialists, commies, pinkos, the Noam Chomskys and Alec Baldwins and Barbra Streisands — that hates America. But the Right – good old flag-waving patriotic God Bless America conservatives? How could they possibly be anti-American? It sounds ridiculous.

Yet whatever sense or nonsense it makes, anti-Americanism is seeping into the entire conservative movement and is threatening to splinter it into pieces.

I’m not talking about the racist nuts, the white supremacists and militia types. I’m talking about mainstream heartland conservatives. Howard Phillips, head of the famed Conservative Caucus, is one of the founders of the entire modern conservative movement in America. He is a dear friend whom I care for personally, with whom I worked closely on organizing support for the Reagan Doctrine in dismantling the Soviet Empire.

Yet Howard Phillips’ writings and speeches now are indistinguishable from those of Howard Dean’s in their outpouring of vitriol and condemnation of President Bush, accusing him of “war crimes against the people of Iraq.”

Jon Utley, an influential conservative writer and activist of long anti-Communist standing during the Cold War, has simply gone around the bend in his hatred for everything America does in terms of foreign policy and everything the Bush administration does, foreign and domestic.

The same is true for conservative economist Paul Craig Roberts, whose syndicated columns have become so rabid that they seem deranged with hate – such as the claim that the Bush administration is “organizing genocide for Arabs.”

David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union, organizer of the annual C-PAC conference (the largest gathering of conservatives in the country) and member of the Board of Directors of the National Rifle Association, is now in bed with the ACLU in its efforts to demonize Attorney General John Ashcroft and prevent the Patriot Act from catching Moslem terrorists.

Former Congressman Bob Barr, who led the impeachment of Bill Clinton in Congress and is also an NRA board member, has become a paid whore for the ACLU, and now makes a living bashing Bush and Ashcroft.

The single most influential conservative activist in Washington, Grover Norquist, is being investigated by the FBI for his long-standing connections to a network of financiers of Moslem terrorists.

There are many people in Washington who look upon Grover as the conservative movement’s most valuable asset. His Americans for Tax Reform is in the forefront of the entire conservative tax reduction effort.

Yet ATR shares office space and staff with the Islamic Institute at 1920 L Street. The same receptionist answers both groups’ phones. Grover is the founding chairman of the Islamic Institute and got the seed money from Abdurahman Alamoudi, just indicted by federal prosecutors for financial connections to al-Qaeda terrorists.

Grover is the conservative movement’s “gatekeeper” to Karl Rove and the White House, yet he is doing everything he can to demonize John Ashcroft, recently appearing on a panel with Alec Baldwin to denounce the attorney general.

Grover is amazingly smart, talented and influential. The source of his pro-Moslem obsession and his passionate defense of radical Moslems linked to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda is a mystery to many.

The source of many conservatives’ and libertarians’ hatred for America is, however, no mystery: the baneful influence of the founder of the Libertarian Party, Murray Rothbard. He is the reason why so much of the entire libertarian movement is in bed with the hate-America left, and why so many conservatives are getting under the same covers.

The intellectual parents of the libertarian movement are philosopher Ayn Rand and economist Murray Rothbard, whose followers caused an ideological split in the movement in the 1970s. Randian libertarians are pro-defense, pro-America; Rothbardians are the opposite. Tragically, the latter seized control of the Libertarian Party and have not relinquished it since.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: acu; antiamericanism; antiwarright; bobbarr; conservatives; cpac; davidkeene; enemywithin; grovernorquist; howardphillips; jonutley; libertarians; norquist; paleocons; paulcraigroberts
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To: Dan from Michigan
He's now turned into Janet Reno without the WACO.

What? All those changes and no company barbecue?

41 posted on 11/04/2003 7:04:16 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (No, D*mnit! Your OTHER Right!)
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To: x
Re: "Jack Wheeler panders too much to the emotions."

Good point and I looked for the Bush-is-a-war-criminal quote. Perhaps Wheeler did not mean to say Mr. Phillips actually said it but it's what he means?

First I googled, "Howard Phillips" Bush "war crimes against the people of Iraq"

No hits.

After a few tries the closest I could find was an old Freep page

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-savimbi/browse

where Howard and son Brad accused President Bush of being at least partly to blame for the killing of "Christian leader, Dr. Jonas Mahleiro Savimbi. Dr. Savimbi, age 67, Angolan patriot, African nationalist, Christian leader and founder and president of the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA)." It was from an old newsmax article.

I have no knowledge of Mr. Phillips. It's just that Mr. Wheeler sounded like a high schooler appealing to fellow students to trash a rival clique. I am new to the neo v. paleo and now it looks like it's even more complicated than that. I'll be looking for proof of Mr. Wheeler's charge that the "anti-American right" has ties to radical Islam.

42 posted on 11/04/2003 7:04:37 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Tailgunner Joe
My bad. Sorry.
43 posted on 11/04/2003 7:33:43 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Grampa Dave
Eschew pseudoconservative antisemitic fifth columnists.


44 posted on 11/04/2003 7:44:18 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
He's right about Norquist, though.
45 posted on 11/04/2003 7:44:27 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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later
46 posted on 11/04/2003 7:58:47 PM PST by secretagent
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To: quidnunc
The source of many conservatives? and libertarians? hatred for America is, however, no mystery: the baneful influence of the founder of the Libertarian Party, Murray Rothbard.

Setting aside the entire silly notion of this poorly written article, that disagreement with a particular, or set of particular political policies are somehow "anti-American," one can also question its accuracy on particular facts. Murray Rothbard was not "the founder of the Libertarian Party."

If harming the President and his policies is to be a measure of what is "anti-American, then clearly the most "anti-American" person named on this page was that of the author, Jack Wheeler.

47 posted on 11/04/2003 8:35:36 PM PST by jackbob
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yes. Now maybe the Bushbots will start seeing the logic. If a terrorist is a terrorist, ie A=A and some anti-abortionists act like terrorists, then it could be curtains for much of the anti-abortion activists. What's the difference between blowing up the WTC and a legally sanctioned abortion clinic except scale for the purposes of the law? Like it or not, many Islamists are not active participants in the violence. They are Islamism's fellow travelers yet they're being detained. I find that it's scary how quickly many conservatives dismiss the possibility of an egregious abuse of executive power with these laws. I think it'll take a very bloody violation of many rights' civil rights to make them rethink their position on granting discressionary power to the fedgov.

I certainly despise Islam and as someone who follows a non-Abrahamic monotheistic religion I have a great incentive to oppose Islam in all of its forms, even "peaceful." I for one am just concerned that we'll see a wave of anti-gun rights, anti-abortion, etc PATRIOT usages under a democrat. Bin Laden's goal as he has made clear is to make us destroy ourselves. He knows that most Americans aren't rugged individualists, who with gun in hand, are ready to tell him and his fellow lunatics to bring it on.

48 posted on 11/04/2003 8:49:43 PM PST by CodeMonkey
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To: Poohbah
They can thank Allah it wasn't me, either.

At some point, the Taliban would have been given the Sir Arthur Harris treatment. A Dresden-esque firestorm at Kandahar would be most likely.

There would have been unconditional backing of Israeland a complete cutoff of aid to the Palestinians. Any diplomatic effort on their behalf would be rejected.

Other state sponsors of terrorism would have been given ultimatums to change certain patterns of conduct, or I would be in front of Congress asking for a declaration of war.
49 posted on 11/04/2003 9:03:40 PM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: Dog Gone
They are the most irrelevant people in politics. They can't win an election for dog catcher, yet they want to tell winners how to lose. If the winners listen to the losers.
50 posted on 11/04/2003 10:50:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less.")
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To: quidnunc
Sorry. Bush is not doing a great job on national security.
He has not secured our borders. He refuses to fight islamism in America.
Frankly, he failed to define the enemy or propose the necessary force structure to defeast the threat. He has sought to fight a world-war peicemeal and on the cheap. Now we are stuck.
There are members of the right who are wither purposely ignorant of the Islamist threat or those who are so afraid of it that they try to appease it. Hence their pathological hatred for those who stand up to the Islamists.
51 posted on 11/04/2003 11:10:16 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: CodeMonkey
I differentiate between the civil an Constitutional rights of citizens and non-citizens (especially illegal aliens).
52 posted on 11/04/2003 11:13:31 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: quidnunc

Something tells me that most people around here would not view this cartoon as depicting members of the Anti-American Right.

53 posted on 11/04/2003 11:29:50 PM PST by wideminded
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To: ex-snook
Wheeler is a phony; look at his anti-American writings from 1995:

In 1995, Wheeler wrote this in the newsletter Strategic Investment:

The slaughter of dozens of women and children in Waco by government stormtroopers under the command of Field Marshall Reno may pale in comparison to what has been planned for late March: a nationwide BATF/FBI assault on private militias as the prelude to a possible declaration of martial law throughout the United States.

All leaves and vacations have been canceled for BATF/FBI personnel, and for various State Police and National Guards such as California's. The Army's infamous Joint Task Force Six (which did the training for Waco) has been training BATF jackbooters with Bradley Assault Vehicles at Ft. Bliss, Texas. Government agent provocateurs are set to plant fully automatic and heavy weapons, like rocket launchers, on the property of militia leaders. Every militia in the country -- and there are dozens, many of which are well-armed and well-lead by former or even active-duty officers -- is on a state of Red Alert. Should Reno be stupid enough to actually attack them militarily, there is going to be a lot of blood.

The establishment media is programmed to immediately thereafter thunderously bellow for nationwide gun confiscation and even martial law. The Senate Armed Forces Committee has been alerted and is questioning key Defense and Justice people behind closed doors. Hopefully, Reno's Waco 2 can be stopped in time.

And to slam a friend of this forum Bob Barr?? Who are these new FR people?

54 posted on 11/06/2003 7:50:19 AM PST by JohnGalt (""Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: wideminded
"Something tells me that most people around here would not view this cartoon as depicting members of the Anti-American Right."

Something tells me... your moniker is a misnomer

55 posted on 12/11/2003 8:34:11 PM PST by FBD ("A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier."--H.L.Mencken)
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To: quidnunc

Moral-liberal birds of a feather BTTT.

56 posted on 12/11/2003 8:42:03 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ex-snook
Orwellian -- to be for America's best interests first is now anti-American.

Anyone who isn't on the neoconazi bandwagon is going to be called anti-American. Sign of the times as we rush headfirst into a central planning fascist police state. No liberties or freedom will be safe from the neoconazis and no dissent from the groupthink party line will be tolerated. Get ready for it cause it is coming on fast and strong.

Richard W.

57 posted on 12/11/2003 8:43:49 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: wideminded
Something tells me that most people around here would not view this cartoon as depicting members of the Anti-American Right.

More like a top level meeting of the RNC.

Richard W.

58 posted on 12/11/2003 8:46:18 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: arete
What was all that gibberish you just spewed supposed to accomplish?

Or did you simply copy it from your facist manifesto? I seriously hope you keep on spewing because it lets people know what the core beliefs and behaviors of your fringe group are all about. That will make the GOP even stronger as time goes by

Incidently, I meant no respect on your behalf because you show none what soever yourself.

59 posted on 12/11/2003 9:21:34 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Libertarians are LOOOOOOSERS!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
The "true conservatives" around these parts are damned near posting Kerry and Dean speeches verbatim.

They claim that there's no difference between Bush and Clinton, and sound like every Democrat running for president while doing it.

60 posted on 12/11/2003 9:27:31 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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