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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: hummingbird
Yes it does bear repeating.
6,881 posted on 01/05/2004 8:19:34 PM PST by Letitring
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To: Letitring
I guess we'd lose the power grid for this section, alot of it anyway. Not much danger of fallout, since most of the radiation would go out to sea. Right? Alot of people will survive this. How will we get in to help them? I know NEST and FEMA have folks all over the place up there. I know we have rapid mobilization units on standby. Maybe we have enough assets in place, already, and more nearby. If we act fast, we can save alot of people.
6,882 posted on 01/05/2004 8:22:32 PM PST by Letitring
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To: ProudToBeGOP; Cindy
Don't know what even Jan. 6th is.

Isn't it "12th night" - the Orthodox Christmas?


I think so...also, a Tuesday...has that been an attack day other than WTC?
6,883 posted on 01/05/2004 8:22:51 PM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Letitring; Donna Lee Nardo
You know, I'm beginning to think we probably need to know exactly what to expect if those lunatics do something to our NYC.

Well..they MAY "do something" to one of our cities. BUT..they'd better consider what will happen to THEM in retaliation.

(Dear God, PLEASE give Dubya the courage to do what is "right" in defense of America and NUKE THE BASTARDS TO HELL AND BACK if they so much as THINK about hitting the US with WMD).

(I know..target selection and all..start with Mecca and Medina and go from there. Give the innocent people around there a days notice to vacate and then VAPORIZE THE AREA).

It might be a bit silly, but there's a song from a soundtrack to the movie "the Prince of Egypt" (coincidentally enough) called "Playing with the Big Boys Now". In it, there's a line saying "you'll know what POWER IS WHEN WE ARE DONE". Can't help but smile to myself and think of those 16,000 or so US Nuclear Warheads in the silos and subs. Those AQ boys better behave..or else they're gonna "know what power is when we are done".

6,884 posted on 01/05/2004 8:26:13 PM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: liberallyconservative
The Luxor massacre was in 1997...

NOVEMBER 17, 1997 : (LUXOR, EGYPT MASSACRE, AL-GAMAA AL-ISLAMIYA, OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN, WHO IS LINKED TO - WTC BOMBING #1) massacre of 80 Western tourists near Cairo. Egypt's most powerful Islamic militant group -- al-Gamaa al-Islamiyya -- claimed responsibility Tuesday for the 70 deaths, which also included the attackers, police officers and several Egyptians. (There were some attacks on tourists prior to this as well.) In a statement faxed to AP press, the group said the tourists were killed Monday while its gunmen were trying to take them hostage in an attempt to secure the release of the group's spiritual leader, Omar Abdel Rahman. The cleric is in a U.S. prison for conspiring to blow up New York landmarks, including the World Trade Center in 1993.

Another 1997 incident of note:

FEBRUARY 23, 1997 : (NY : PALESTINIAN KAMAL ATTACKS TOURISTS AT EMPIRE STATE BUILDING) An Islamic militant opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State Building in New York on February 23, 1997 killing 1 tourist and seriously wounding six other Western tourists - "A Short History of World War IIIA Lesson of the Future.," by Sal Rosken, The Partial Observer , 2 March 2003 * Ali Hassan Abu Kamal, a Palestinian teacher who arrived in the United States in December, 1996 on a tourist visa kills seven tourists with a 14 shot semiautomatic pistol at the Empire State Building before killing himself. He bought the gun in Florida despite federal law prohibiting sales to aliens who do not have at least 90 days of residency. Abu Kamal wrote that he was taking vengeance against enemies of the Palestinian people.

MARCH 1997 : (BIN LADEN CNN INTERVIEW) Bin Laden told CNN in March 1997 that he had trained the "Afghan Arabs" who helped to kill 18 American soldiers in Somalia in 1993

MARCH 1997 : (BIN LADEN, DECLARATION OF JIHAD AGAINST THE US ) CNN interviewed bin Laden. He said, in part, "We declared a jihad against the United States because it is unjust, criminal, and tyrannical." Without directly taking credit for the actions, he mentioned the 1995 killing of 7 US troops in Riyadh and the 1996 killing of 19 US troops in Dharan as examples of the jihad In interviews broadcast on US television in 1997 and 1998 Osama bin Laden referred to the terrorists who carried out the earlier attack on the world Trade Center in 1993 as "role models." He went on to exhort his followers "to take the fighting to America."

JULY 1997 : (NY CITY SUBWAY PLOT, PALESTINIAN GHAZI IBRAHIM ABU MEZER, PAKISTANI)  Two Palestinians and a Pakistani are arrested on a tipoff to New York City police and are found to have suicide bombs and a note indicating they intend a terrorist attack in the city's subways. Ghazi Ibrahim Abu Mezer, a Palestinian, entered the United States (in Washington state) illegally from Canada three times and was apprehended and returned to Canada. He entered Canada as a student, but requested and received political asylum. After his last U.S. entry the Canadians would not take him back because he had committed crimes in Canada. He applied for asylum, and a judge ordered a hearing for 1998 and released him. Abu Mezer said that he had been accused by the Israeli government of belonging to Hamas, a terrorist organization a claim denied by his family in Israel. On June 23, at a hearing on his asylum application, he withdrew it, and the judge gave him 60 days to depart the country. Lafi Khalil, the second terrorism suspect entered the country on a tourist visa and stayed on illegally. The Clinton Administration, represented by the INS and the State Department, support adoption on a permanent basis of the adjustment of status provision for illegal aliens — INA Section 245(i) — that facilitates legal residence status for persons entering without inspection or overstaying their visa without having to leave the United States for investigation of their possible ineligibility for immigrant status in their native country.

AUGUST 1997 : (STATE DEPARTMENT DELAYS LIST OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS REQUIRED BY ANTITERRORISM ACT)    The State Department acknowledges that it still has not prepared the list of international terrorist organizations required by the Antiterrorism Act in 1996. A Dept. State spokesman says the report is overdue because any group designated as a terrorist organization will have the right to challenge that designation in U.S. courts. The designation will cause U.S. fundraising activities for the group to be cut off and members of the group will be barred from entering the United States.
(* My note : IF they get listed. If they don't, they can still rake in the cash.)

SEPTEMBER 18, 1997 : (EGYPT: MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISTS FIREBOMB A BUS, KILL 9 GERMAN TOURISTS) Nine German tourists killed when Muslim fundamentalists fire bombed and machine gunned a bus in central Cairo, Egypt. The following day a policeman was killed in southern Egypt in a gun attack.

OCTOBER 29, 1997 : (IRAQ BANS AMERICANS FROM INSPECTIONS) Iraq bans Americans in UNSCOM from making any inspections.- Iraq - Scotsman says Saddam has weapons to wipe out world's population, nuclear bomb within 3 years "The Scotsman dossier - SPECIAL REPORT ON IRAQ" by Fraser Nelson, Westminster Editor

6,885 posted on 01/05/2004 8:26:19 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Letitring
Yeah,

I think some forward thinking would not hurt as long as people didn't jump off the cliff into paranoia wholesale.
6,886 posted on 01/05/2004 8:30:05 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: jstolzen
I was sitting here thinking almost the same thing. Recalling the President's speech, after 9/11, when he said he did not, and would not, rule out retaliating with everything we have available if we get hit with WMD. I wish he'd repeat that.
6,887 posted on 01/05/2004 8:33:14 PM PST by Letitring
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
I think the reason the air burst does more damage is there is less concrete, etc to interfere with the blast pressure.

Check out the link below for info on blast radius and radiation effects..

http://www.radshelters4u.com/
6,888 posted on 01/05/2004 8:34:09 PM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: jstolzen
Thank you so much, for that link. Looks like I have more reading to do. Also must dig out my survival discs and print outs. I have them all in one storage bin, but need to bring it to the front. :)No longer exactly sure how far back in storage room it is. I have one copy in my desk filing cabinet for a quick grab, but the bulk is packed away. Hum. I'll tend to that tomorrow. Thanks again, and goodnight. God bless us everyone.
6,889 posted on 01/05/2004 8:42:32 PM PST by Letitring
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To: tubavil
Thanks tubavil for the link for memri on the al-battar training camps. Very interesting.
6,890 posted on 01/05/2004 8:54:14 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: piasa
Thanks for the post. Lots of interesting Egyptian incidents. I admit I didn't pay as close attention during the Clinton administration as I should have. Reading about his willful enabling of terrorist infiltration in the 90s makes my blood boil.

And something has to be done NOW. US VISIT is a start (our new fingerprint/photo program begun today for SOME tourists entering our country - 28 nations exempted), but what about those who are already here?
6,891 posted on 01/05/2004 8:54:42 PM PST by liberallyconservative ("I'm a politician ergo I'm a cheat & a liar. If I'm not kissin babies Im stealin their lollipops.")
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To: Oorang
Let's see... Osama's probably in Iran -- in a holy city. A small city, but one with good medical care and a suburban area. He would want to be away from crowds, but not far from a hospital or mosque. Close to the border... Hmmmm.

Now, if you only had his current address!

6,892 posted on 01/05/2004 9:00:39 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Letitring
Let me add to your reading list. This just posted:

"Onward Muslim Soldiers"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052142/posts

A rather lengthy but worthy article. The author of this book let's us know just what we're up against.
6,893 posted on 01/05/2004 9:06:33 PM PST by liberallyconservative ("I'm a politician ergo I'm a cheat & a liar. If I'm not kissin babies Im stealin their lollipops.")
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To: All
Bookmark

Goodnight all. Pray and stay safe.

6,894 posted on 01/05/2004 9:09:19 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Letitring
I don't know what the effect would be, but I do know the only people who would send teams to help would be the Brits. The French would be dancing in the streets. Next time, let's remember who our real friends are...

What effect would it have if they really could wipe out an American City and based on the treats, looks like NY. I can't imagine it. Dear God help us all.

6,895 posted on 01/05/2004 9:16:43 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: liberallyconservative
(our new fingerprint/photo program begun today for SOME tourists entering our country - 28 nations exempted),

And that part is ridiculous because plenty of terrorists were either born in some of those European countries and converted there (or were born to Muslim parents), or have false IDs and passports. Just because someone has a British or French or whatever passport doesn't guarantee innocence!

6,896 posted on 01/05/2004 9:18:05 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Excellent point. There should be NO exceptions.

Goodnight all. 5AM comes way too early, so time to sign off.
6,897 posted on 01/05/2004 9:27:20 PM PST by liberallyconservative ("I'm a politician ergo I'm a cheat & a liar. If I'm not kissin babies Im stealin their lollipops.")
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Is this a separate story from the Washington doctor that also posed as a doctore (multi tasking big time here....info offered would be appreciated).
6,898 posted on 01/05/2004 9:30:59 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; StillProud2BeFree; JustPiper
Now a trojan horse would be an interesting thought. I saw a few DNS attacks today on major servers.

Also, that picture JP posted the other day had NXT encoded (IMO) in the picture. Now if NXT is in reference to communications(????)

Multiple NXT platforms can be combined to generate more than 250,000 simultaneous calls. The technology supports TDM over DS-3 interfaces, SS7 and ISDN signaling, IP signaling and media streaming.

That would shut down our communications.

6,899 posted on 01/05/2004 9:37:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
I believe it's the same guy. See this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1013726/posts?page=6864#6864
6,900 posted on 01/05/2004 9:39:24 PM PST by Oorang (Don't tread on me)
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