Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[tubavil]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

Link to Thread 2

[texasbluebell]

Here's the link to the photo on an earlier post by LG2, though the hand is actually coming out of SA, not the Red Sea, I misspoke.

Yes, Blair and family were vacationing there secretly, and he met with Mubarak, before Blair set off for Iraq.

link to photo

[_Jim]

See also: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/976535/posts

[Domestic Church]

Cortland was major RR town too...lots and lots of trains back in the 1800's.

I suspect many tunnels were built as a standard safeguard against many threats and for many uses including winter storage of produce or ice storage in summer for the larger families of that time.

[WestCoastGal]

re: 6073, I believe there is a strong resemblance to BL?? That is after we find him in his hole like Saddam.

The other picture of him that appears somewhere up the thread along with the map & threats etc. sure looks like he did in the very last video we saw of him somewhere around Dec 2001 I believe.

About two weeks ago on Fox there was an interview with someone (can't remember his name) but he said a Dr from Pakistan had been taken to see BL and he was very frail and jaundiced. His camp is always surrounded by mines so no one can sneak up on him and so he can martyr himself if we find him. The interesting thing he said was that in Islam jaundice or yellow color of the body means Satan has invaded that person.

[Labyrinthos]

Thanks for the link. I actually so the photo yesterday. Less revealing than other stuff that has been posted of late.

[nwctwx]

EOM, the purported bad guy said this before Xmas.

EOM
London shall only be the beginning
Tue Dec 23 2003 4:25:34 pm
217.110.209.212
you shall see

I'm not sure anyone stopped a potential attack, but of course there has been much interest in London based flights.

[hummingbird]

"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31 http://www.submission.org/why-19.html

I need to duct tape my head on this one to keep my brain from exploding. Do all Muslims believe this; when were these ideas constructed? Do you have a book title or any other reference to help me out on this? Does any of this have connection with Kwanza? The 5%'ers? nwctwx, thank you for guiding me here. I cannot get into the head of what these believers of 19 are all about. How did all this sneak up on us? I know US prisons have been infiltrated with NOI but I guess I have to ask again...do all Muslims subscribe to these ideas? What happened to "Religion of Peace?" Thanks for your help!

[Mossad1967]

Lets say these threats are (REAL). Not just bluster.

This entire "Airplane" thing is a well planned diversion.

They might try to take down a plane in a smaller attack.
(doubtful)

The next "Big" attack (G-d forbid), if it happens, will come by land or sea.

It will be a Bio/Chem. or Radiation (nuclear) attack.

It will be an attack that none of us will expect or imagine.

Right under our noses.

[hummingbird]

" I remember Farakhan (sic?) making a speech with numbers and everything coming back to 19" Here's an old thread on Jihadis in the Hood http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/776834/posts

Thanks, DC...will check it out now!

[hummingbird]

"I'm wondering if there is any jello in the refrigerator!" That could get you transferred to the mad cow threads,lol.

Oh, my...would this be true about Tapioca, too?! 8^)

P.S. Haven't gone to Jihadis in the Hood yet (wanted to respond to your msg first) but do you remember there was a msg (from Daleel maybe?) that mentioned musicians somehow being activated? I remember another poster asking what musicians they would be talking about. Is this the Jihadis in the Hood thread that answers that question? I've seen something somewhere with a list of musicians & I think it was on this thread we are on now but can't find it in my notes. Any recollection, DC?

[Calpernia]

>>>what's with the fixation on tunnels?

Couple of fixations.

#1 - We are wondering if the "Belly of the Eagle" could mean an attack from underground. Specific interests, but not limited to, pertaining to Yellowstone and now from our tunnel cave research other marks such as Niagra Falls

#2 - I've noticed quite a few Mosques here in NJ have built along tunnel routes. We have seen the tunnel use in ME, why not here? Connect mosques, have underground labs, storage of material not wanted in blatant view.

#3 - I've lost my mind and and a total paranoid.

[hummingbird]

Saudis link al-Qaeda to attacks May, 2003 Bremer: U.S. Holding 19 Al Qaeda Suspects in Iraq - Sept, 2003 There are more articles alluding to 19, These are some I have bookmarked. It would seem that 19 is the number for a "cell." Likely based off the verse I posted. Also related to: Number 19 is the numerical value of the word "ONE" in all the scriptural languages, Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic "one" cell = 19

Thanks, once again, nwctwx. I like a good puzzle but this one is one of the most intricate I've come across.

[nwctwx]

The short answer, I would assume, is no. I realize I posted a "translation" of the actual verse.

surah 74, verse 30: "We have appointed as wardens of the Fire none but angels; and We have made this number for no other reason than to confound the disbelievers; so that those to whom the Scripture has been given may have certainty and the believers may increase in faith; and so that those to whom the Scripture has been given and those who believe may be rid of doubt; and so that those in whose hearts there is a disease and those who disbelieve may say"

The "miracle" of 19, is a recent find - 1974. Since the discovery, and particularly in the case of someone like UBL this verse has been used as a prophetic call to war. I honestly do not know everything behind the number 19, I have been trying to figure it out since late 2001 and it still stumps me a bit. ;-)

[nwctwx]

Yes, it is a puzzle. I do believe it is very significant though.

[Labyrinthos]

Thanks for the summary. The Yellowstone theory has been around for a while. Makes no sense to me. The tunnel theory makes some sense although still speculation. I think the reference to the "Belly of the Eagle" is much more symbolic referring to an attack of some sort that strikes at the heart of Amercian ideas and values.

[hummingbird]

"...the division of the three main power grids in the contiguous United States..." the Western Interconnection, the Texas Interconnection and the Eastern Interconnection. That's pretty much it, but, there *are* even a couple of interconnections (lines or tie lines) between those roughly defined Interconnection or 'grids' as well nowadays - even between that formerly isolated 'island' of Texas and the Eastern Interconnection. (Cites, references available if need be.)

Thanks for info, _Jim. I was pretty sure you were the one on the Blackout Threads with a good background in this area! Have you been reading this thread? Do you think the 3 gridlines could be what the "whoever they are" are referring to when they talk about splitting the US into 3 sections? Do you have an opinion on whether the NY Blackout was accidental or intentional?

[mhking]

I'm wondering if there is any jello in the refrigerator!

"Aw, man! Get the Jello 'n smear it all over the floor!--GET OUTTA HERE CHICKEN HEART!"--I set the sofa on fire--"YOU WON'T COME NEAR A SMOKIN' FIRE 'N JELLO!"

[mhking]

Can you direct me to the significance of "19" post?

(I can't resist)

"Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out."

[nwctwx]

Poor cut/paste on the first try :)

surah 74, verse 30 We have appointed as wardens of the Fire none but angels; and We have made this number for no other reason than to confound the disbelievers; so that those to whom the Scripture has been given may have certainty and the believers may increase in faith; and so that those to whom the Scripture has been given and those who believe may be rid of doubt; and so that those in whose hearts there is a disease and those who disbelieve may say : 'What could Allah have meant by this curious numeration!' Thus Allah sends astray whom He will and guides whom He will! None knows about the armies of your Lord but Him; and this is nothing but a Reminder for mankind!

[hummingbird]

Just an aside and probably not at all related, but I use the abbreviation EOM at work for End of Month.

Sorry for late post but when I first saw EOM, I immediately thought of 'End of Msg' but that is so commonly used. End of Month is interesting.