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Marijuana is county's No. 2 'crop' [Tulare County, CA]
Visalia Times-Delta ^ | Thursday, October 30, 2003 | Percy Ednalino

Posted on 11/02/2003 6:32:07 PM PST by yonif

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:52:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If marijuana were legal, it would replace oranges as the second most valuable crop in Tulare County.

And if marijuana were legal, Tulare County also would lead the state in the plant's cultivation.

Figures released Wednesday from the state Attorney General's Office revealed more than a quarter of all marijuana plants seized in California this year have been found in Tulare County.


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To: A CA Guy
BTW the last word of 14:2 according to Strong's is
herbs: lavcanon Lachanon (lakh'-an-on); Noun Neuter, Strong #: 3001

any pot herb, vegetables

KJV Word Usage and Count
herb 4

No other in KJV
61 posted on 11/03/2003 5:03:15 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: PaxMacian
Making pot-growing mandatory, eh?
Those who refuse to plant pot are minions of satan, eh?
Every cloth has its fringe, but in the case of the libertarians, it's all fringe and no cloth.

Including yourself, there's probably zero people who take your words seriously.
Go peddle your false-religion nonsense elsewhere.

62 posted on 11/03/2003 5:05:35 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: A CA Guy
I have 32 versions of the Bible and I can't seem to find that one. Exactly what version is that?
63 posted on 11/03/2003 5:08:09 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: Cultural Jihad
It is sad that's all you have to hurl at me for insults?
If your aim as always is to get the thread pulled
then you will have to do better than that.
Why not try something new and actually try making a point?

Peace be with you.
64 posted on 11/03/2003 5:19:13 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: PaxMacian
The POPE is against everything you say and stand for...HE AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WANT WORLD WIDE SUPRESSION OF DRUGS AND DISTIBUTION...YOU ARE MOCKING THE POPE, CHURCH AND GOD HIMSELF WITH YOUR POSTS.:

Check out CHURCH: DRUGS AND DRUG ADDICTION http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/hlthwork/documents/rc_pc_hlthwork_doc_20011101_chiesa-droga-presentation_en.html

http://www.catholic.net/hope_healing/print.phtml?article_id=388

January 09, 2002 / Should drugs be legalized? Is it a good idea to give addicts drugs? How should drug trafficking be combated?

Answers to these questions are contained in a manual on drugs and Church policy published this month by the Pontifical Council for Health Care Workers. "Church, Drugs, and Drug Addiction" should be available in English early next year.

The manual begins with an overview of John Paul II´s teaching on drug use. The Pope points out that drugs are one of the main threats facing young people, including children.

The document identifies many causes behind drug use. Some see it as a way of expressing personal liberty. Others see it as just another way to look for pleasure. Still others view it as a way to escape suffering, solitude and isolation. Sometimes a lack of values and convictions that could give firm points of reference for personal development means that many are easy prey for drug pushers.

John Paul II also thinks that the decision to use drugs might often spring from an ambience of skepticism and hedonism that leads to feelings of frustration and a lack of meaning in people´s lives.

The authors of the manual point out that the growth in drug use should lead society to a serious reflection. An increasing number of people are turning to drugs because modern life leaves them unsatisfied and anxious about their future.

Insofar as drug use is linked to the search for pleasure, the manual explains the superficiality of this desire. It points out how by giving priority to pleasure seeking the drug user enters in conflict with the reality of everyday life and its obligations.

Pleasure, in different forms, has a legitimate function in our lives, notes the document. But it needs to be ordered according to a correct hierarchy. But with drugs an immediate satisfaction of the desire for pleasure is sought, bypassing the use of our capacities of intelligence and willpower that should regulate our lives.

It is a serious error, notes the document, to think that our desires for peace, happiness and personal satisfaction will be automatically fulfilled by means of ingesting some type of chemical cocktail.

Merchants of Death
What is the Church´s judgment on illegal drug use? Catholic morality firmly rejects whatever use of illegal drugs. In fact John Paul II has referred to pushers as "merchants of death" and warns potential drug users against using substances that offer the illusion of liberty and false promises of happiness.

To use drugs, notes the Pope, is always illicit because it involves an unjustified and irrational abdication of our capabilities to think, choose and act as persons. It´s also false to speak of any "right" to drugs, because we never have any right to abdicate the personal dignity that God has given us. Using drugs, John Paul II has said, not only damages our health but also frustrates our capacity to live in community and to offer ourselves to others.

The fight against drug is a grave duty for those in public authority, the Pope insists. Enforcement of drug laws is crucial for protecting society and individuals from grave danger, the manual says. And widespread violations of the law should not lessen the effort to enforce it, the document insists.

At the same time, the manual explains that drugs are not just a legal problem. Solving drug abuse also depends on factors such as offering young people a sense of purpose in their lives and decent surroundings in which they can mature.

Legalization?
The Church opposes the legalization of drugs. This includes so-called soft drugs, which it sees as fomenting the same type of dependence mentality and the loss of personal dignity that hard drugs produce.

The manual points out that the state has a duty to protect citizens and promote the common good. Legalizing drugs would be a serious blow to potential users, damaging their health and stunting their lives.

From a medical point of view, the division between soft and hard drugs is hard to draw. In many cases what is more important is the quantity of substances consumed, how they have been taken and whether they have been mixed. Moreover, new drugs are constantly arriving on the scene, along with new side effects and questions about their potency. The Pontifical Council for Health Care Workers also points out that drug abuse has significant non-physical effects. The psychological and behavioral consequences of soft drugs lead to substantial problems, even if their physiological effects are not as serious as those of hard drugs.

How then can we best fight against drug abuse? The document suggests three courses of action: prevention, suppression of trafficking and rehabilitation.

Prevention can be brought about by offering to potential victims of drugs the human values of love and life, illuminated by faith, the Pope has stated. In this way we can give meaning to our lives. The Church offers people the gift of God´s love, with her word and with Christ´s grace. The document also stresses the role of the family in providing for children a solid education that teaches them to avoid ever starting with drugs. Youth groups and parishes can also play a part, by promoting a lifestyle based on evangelical values and contact with God that will lead to the discovery of what is the true meaning of our human existence.

Fighting against the international network of drug traffickers is also important, notes the manual. Regional and international cooperation is needed to overcome the power of crime syndicates.

Drug suppliers and merchants should be the primary object of legal and police action, affirms the document. While it would be a mistake to leave unpunished ordinary drug users, authorities should take into account the personal and social factors that led them into addiction. Above all, users should be helped to escape from their dependence.

The Pontifical Council for Health Care Workers notes that the Church has been successfully treating drug addicts for years. John Paul II has encouraged parents of young addicts to keep up hope and to maintain dialogue with their children. Family love is a potent weapon in fighting drug use, he says. The Church also offers to addicts the hope contained in Christ´s love for each person. The manual notes that a life based on a personal relationship with Christ is the only way to satisfy our personal desires.

65 posted on 11/03/2003 5:23:12 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PaxMacian
According to John Paul 2, you are a "MERCHANT OF DEATH"!
66 posted on 11/03/2003 5:25:32 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Though the drug warriors have brought death to many
over an herb nobody ever dies from partaking of it.
67 posted on 11/03/2003 5:45:46 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: PaxMacian

Hardly. I hope all normal people get to read your drivel. Thanks for the self-marginalization of your ideology.

68 posted on 11/03/2003 6:00:36 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: PaxMacian
You are a false prophet.

Don't forget that drug warrior John Paul 2 who feels what you are doing is evil.

More facts I've out in your face, but you can't acknowledge them because you want your drugs and that is the ONLY thing that counts for you.
69 posted on 11/03/2003 6:01:12 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PaxMacian
Total bullsh1t, several have died for starters being intoxicated with it at work or operating machinery and have killed either themselves or others.

You are the Joe-Isuzu of FR at this point.
70 posted on 11/03/2003 6:03:58 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I didn't see herbs in there anywhere.
71 posted on 11/03/2003 6:04:36 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: PaxMacian
The Catholic Church and the Pope cover it as illegal drugs thank you.
72 posted on 11/03/2003 6:15:41 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Fact: you and your ilk want your dominance and take joy
in enforcing conformity, that is your raison d'etre.
Though you care not, like the Vatican(at times), if you dissolve all
other 'sub'-cultures in the process, I do care.

Peace be with you.
73 posted on 11/03/2003 6:26:26 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: A CA Guy
Are you the Holy See?
74 posted on 11/03/2003 6:27:11 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: PaxMacian
No medical marijuana at Vatican pharmacy

The Vatican's pharmacy announced yesterday that will not fill prescriptions for medical marijuana because there are many medical alternatives available for the relief of pain.

It said it would not stock or sell medicines based on cannabis, the plant that yields marijuana. The pharmacy sells a wide range of medications, including some not available in Italy.

Because there were rumors and reports that cannabis-based drugs could be used in the treatment of glaucoma, the Vatican pharmacy said that it released yesterday's statements "to avoid persistent questions and to stem useless hopes."

The short statement made it clear: "Such medication has never been for sale here, nor in the possession of this establishment."

http://www.cathnews.com/news/205/134.php

75 posted on 11/03/2003 6:28:20 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PaxMacian
Church: Drugs and Drug Addiction By John Paul 2 and the Catholic Church

Chapter II: Drug Addiction is a symptom of dependency………………………. 36
1. The products………………………………………………………… 38
1.1. The action of drugs on the brain…………………………………….. 38
1.2. Glue and solvents……………………………………………………. 39
1.3. Cannabis……………………………………………………… 40
1.4. Cocaine…………………………………………………………… 43
1.5. Ecstasy……………………………………………………………….. 45
1.6. Heroin………………………………………………………… 49
2. The unbridled search for pleasure hides the difficulties of living………… 52
2.1. From the first consumption of drugs to the state of dependency…….. 52
2.2. The effects of cannabis………………………………………………. 57
2.3. The search for pleasure………………………………………………. 60
2.3.1. Pleasure in a psychological sense………………………….. 61
2.3.2. The finality of pleasure…………………………………….. 62

76 posted on 11/03/2003 6:36:09 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PaxMacian
May you find God instead of god! Peace be with you without assistance of medication.
77 posted on 11/03/2003 6:37:19 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: coloradan
People who grow and distribute the drug MURDER people. So how can drug use that supports murderers not be a victimless crime?

Drugs do cause victims. My sister's grandchildren are victimized all the time by her druggie son and daughter-in-law.

You are in extreme denial about the reality of what this drug does. It robs one of ambition, and distorts perception, and harms unborn children, as well as harming the care of living children. It also causes reckless behavior that kills and maims other people.

And finally it and other drugs destroy society by decreasing the number of people who remain responsible enough to continue to support the success of that society in maintaining itself.

78 posted on 11/03/2003 7:35:45 PM PST by patriciaruth ("In an insane world, it was the sanest choice." --Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) in Terminator 2)
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To: PaxMacian
"Foxglove is not new to the medicinal world however it should not be used in raw plant form as it is very toxic."

So plants may be God's gift, but must be used wisely?

Should it be legal to put fox glove in herbal preparations to stimulate people, because it is God's gift?

And as I see illegal drugs as harmful to others and to the society on which we all depend for our wellbeing, I do not buy your Thomas Paine argument.

79 posted on 11/03/2003 7:42:23 PM PST by patriciaruth ("In an insane world, it was the sanest choice." --Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) in Terminator 2)
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To: patriciaruth
People who grow and distribute the drug MURDER people. So how can drug use that supports murderers not be a victimless crime?

1. Sweeping generalization. Not every drug grower or distributor murders people, any more than every black man rapes white women. Same zebra, different stripe: blind bigotry. 2. People who grow their own don't support any murderers at all - but policies that you favor scare a lot of people away from doing this, because it's too risky. Hence, the blood of the murdered is on your hands. 3. The fact that growing is ex-legal means growers can't seek legal remedies against those who would steal or damage their crops - hence, only extralegal protections are available to them, such as deadly force. Again, the blood of their victims are on your hands.

Drugs do cause victims. My sister's grandchildren are victimized all the time by her druggie son and daughter-in-law.

The same can be said of alcohol and tobacco. Shall we return to the Prohibition, based on this evidence? Rock climbing and boating also cause fatalities and serious injuries that disrupt or destroy families. Ban them?

You are in extreme denial about the reality of what this drug does.

And you are in extreme denial about the reality of what harms drug prohibition brings:

It robs one of ambition, and distorts perception, and harms unborn children, as well as harming the care of living children. Such as also happens to prisoners in jail for nonviolent drug crimes?

It also causes reckless behavior that kills and maims other people. Tell that to the victims of wrong-address no-knock raids, speaking of reckless behavior caused by prohibition.

And finally it and other drugs destroy society by decreasing the number of people who remain responsible enough to continue to support the success of that society in maintaining itself. You mean like the people in jail, formerly productive and contributing to society, but now forced to while away years of their life doing nothing, or making license plates? The waste of their lives is all yours. I hope you enjoy it, because I don't and they don't.

80 posted on 11/03/2003 7:50:47 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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