ACLU Hasn't A-C-L-U-E

Foxnews.com ^ | 11-01-03 | Dennis Miller

[Carbonsteel]

The ACLU worked to postpone the California Recall, is fighting to get rid of public displays of the Ten Commandments, fighting against the Boy Scouts and for NAMBLA (search), the North American Man-Boy Love Association. Working to defend their rights! In short, on the wrong side of almost every issue. The American Civil Liberties Union is imploding and the wide array of life options it endorses seems to no longer include a belief in the traditional American way.

[merry10]

hmmmm well, I know two women who are gay who are foster/adoptive parents to 8 black children, half of whom are deaf. All eight of the children excel in English and sign language. They make sure their kids have the best education possible so have moved out of state to make sure that happens. I also know another couple who are raising two little girls. These women are professional. Their children do not lack for male role models. The grandparents are very much a part of these kids lives. I think it doesn't matter.

[merry10]

I know gay people act like "normal parents". The gay people I know are all professional RNs, they live in 600,000 dollar homes, they drive nice cars, they walk their kids back and forth to school. Maybe it would be "more normal" if they had sex with all sorts of different men who come in and out of their house, and dealt drugs out of their house to boot.

[merry10]

studies? statistics?

[Alouette]

The argument most frequently used in favor of gays adopting children is that there are huge crowds of unwanted children who would otherwise languish in orphanages if gays are not allowed to adopt them. The truth is that there is a long waiting list of childless heterosexual couples who want to adopt. Gay adoption advocates want to be put at the head of the line and given preference over heterosexual families.

[MinuteGal]

The ACLU is not just now "turning leftward". It was set up decades ago as a communist/Marxist/Christian-hating front organization. It still is.

It employs tried-and-true leftist strategery to take up a mild conservative cause at widely-spaced intervals to facilitate maintainance of their facade.

Leni

[longtermmemmory]

my understanding is that orphanages are not in use any more.

[lowbridge]

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[sweetliberty]

You're absolutely right that queers (sorry, there is nothing "gay" about them) should NOT be adopting children. It is difficult, if not impossible, for many HETEROSEXUAL couples to adopt children. Many agencies do not allow single heterosexuals to adopt children either, or if they do they limit them to children that no one else will adopt. So tell me, how is it that all of a sudden, perverts can stroll into an adoption agency and demand to adopt a child because it is their RIGHT? GIVE ME A BREAK!

[sweetliberty]

"the wide array of life options it endorses seems to no longer include a belief in the traditional American way."

Hey Dennis, any connectin between the ACLU and ANYTHING traditionally American at all, is purely accidental, coincidental and only because they live here.

[Hildy]

I know Gay Couples who are loving, smart and generous. I think putting kids in those stable homes (by stable I mean with couples who have been together for many years and have shown themselves to be productive members of society) are better than in State run homes or the Foster Care System. I know I am going to be attacked for this, so go right ahead.

[sweetliberty]

"I know I am going to be attacked for this, so go right ahead."

No attack. I'm considering the source....the same person who thinks it just peachy for Michael Schiavo to have multiple adulterous relationships and even produce children while at the same time trying to have his disabled wife killed.

Hildy, I would expect you to think that perverts raising children is just dandy as well.

[Hildy]

I think I probably have many more life experiences than you do.

[sweetliberty]

"I think I probably have many more life experiences than you do."

Well, that's a pretty broad statement to make about someone whom you know next to nothing about, but if it helps you feel superior to think that, then knock yourself out.

[DoctorMichael]

Haven't a clue?

They know EXACTLY what their doing.

[mtbopfuyn]

The truth is that there is a long waiting list of childless heterosexual couples who want to adopt.

Very true. We were on that long waiting list and it wasn't even the blonde/blue-eyed/newborn line. Something else, the cut off age for adoptive parents begins at 35. Thirty-five! If that myth about all the poor languishing orphans were true then there wouldn't be such an early cut off. It's not about the quality of the prospective home but the size of the wallet.

[taxcontrol]

One of my wife's cousins in this very situation. He has had a lot of problems growing up. It has only been the influence of a bunch of geek fantasy role players who have no life that has kept him anywhere close to sane.

The boy will graduate HS soon (1 year late) and is thinking about college. He is starting to come into his own and I hope and pray he will turn out ok. Still, he does not understand what a normal home life looks like.

I don't know how he is going to be towards his own family. But I can tell you, he carries a lot of anger towards gays. I hope the self control we have taught him over the the past few years will help him keep a lid on his temper.

[Qwinn]

"The ACLU has now degenerated to the point where they’ll fight against your right to erect a Nativity Scene but they’ll fight for the right of the local freak who stumbles into the scene and fondles one of the sheep."

Get this - I heard Miller say this before. It was on MSNBC, in an interview by Phil Donahue. It was live. The wording was almost precisely the same, but instead of using the word fondle, he used the four-letter variation of the f-word. It somehow got through the censors, and I heard it live. It was the first time I'd heard that word on television, other than one occassion on Saturday Night Live (from whom it's simply expected and not that amusing).

Now, that line is funny as hell even using the word "fondle". Between that and the shock of the word that he did use, and hearing it live on MSNBC, I was -literally- rolling on the floor for 10 minutes. I don't
know that I've ever laughed so hard, it was almost painful.

By the way - if I was ever even slightly torn about the issue of gay adoption, the fact that the ACLU was for it made me absolutely positive that it was the wrong thing to do. To be quite honest, there's not a single thing they fight for that I agree with. Not one.

Qwinn

[xm177e2]

Are you aware that children who grow up in gay households experiment with varieties of sexuality more than other kids?

I am aware that at least one study has found that kids who grow up raised by homosexuals are more likely to be homosexuals themselves. That is exactly what I have based my conclusions on. No matter how good an effort two gay men or women put into raising kids, there is going to be something missing.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"I think gay people are capable of acting like normal parents, just as much as straight people are. BUT when a kid grows up without a mother or without a father, that has to have some sort of cost attached to it."

Yeah. You are right on with your PC talking points. A man makes a great mother and a woman makes a great father. There is really no difference.