Scientists find evolution of life

EurekAlert ^ | 10/30/03

[CobaltBlue]

There are no dumb questions, only the questions you didn't ask, right? So, please forgive my ignorance - when the writers talk about "buffering", does this mean that they are talking about pH?

Casting my memory far, far back - calcium carbonate is a base, and I thought that the CO2 was acidic, so why wouldn't they combine?

Also, where did the calcium come from?

[xm177e2]

What, you say

All your base are belong to us!

[Ichneumon]

[may owe... may be due in part... possibly even promote... may have grown... was likely covered...]

Talk about a leap of faith!

No, the tentative language clearly indicates that this is *not* a "leap of faith", it's a careful indication of the preliminary nature of the models.

A "leap of faith" *would* have been a valid charge if they had simply declared their conclusions in declarative language like "...is due to...", etc. -- but they did not do that.

Like any preliminary scientific finding, they're careful not to overstate the amount of certainty. And also like all scientific proposal, no one experiment, model, or paper can (nor should) instantly establish the idea beyond question. "New" ideas are always presented tentatively, no matter how well they are supported by experiment or evidence.

Only after they have been put out into the arena of scientific verification (via peer review, replication, etc.) and have withstood all objections that could be raised to them, and successfully predict new findings, well enough to achieve widespread acceptance in the scientific community (and do so better than current or opposing theories), will the new ideas reach the point where they can be reasonably written in language that implies a good degree of confidence in its trustworthiness.

[AndrewC]

2) It would be wrong to try to guess my position based on me posting this thread.

You were Hugh Akston were you not?

[Dales]

But a kinder, gentler one?

[NewLand]

[f.Christian]

I personally know a lady who went to a major hospital emergency room at night ... who was attacked unprovoked and assaulted by obviously a mentally homeless insane crazy man and lost her case of damages because the courts ruled the homeless had rights to be there on the hospt property and the hospital wasn't responsibility for security -- to police them !

This wasn't a one time appearance - action of that crazy either ?

She told me her lawyer sold her down the river behind her back !

How about teri and don adams ?

[NewLand]

Very nice. Thank you.

[Ichneumon]

Ever see Stalin's baby pictures?

Close, but no cigar:

[CobaltBlue]

Be fair! The abrupt appearance of species in the fossil record (for whatever reason) hundreds of millions of years ago might solve the abiogenesis problem, but wouldn't negate the evolution of species since that time.

Nor would it be consistent with the view that all life on earth was created at the same time so that man, dinosaurs, and trilobites walked the earth together.

[gore3000]

It would be wrong to try to guess my position based on me posting this thread.

Actually it is quite easy to tell you are an evolutionist from the posting of this thread. Evolutionists cannot find any evidence for their position so they keep posting just so stories like this one that has no facts, no evidence, but says that evolution has been proven again.

Scientific predictions are made either about things which may occur in the future or things that have never been observed. This is neither, this is a story about something which has been observed and is already known. It is not a prediction, it is not science, it is an attempt to cover up the fact that the Cambrian explosion completely destroys the theory of evolution as the evolutionists Gould and Eldredge claimed.

[NewLand]

LOL!! I never knew Stalin was a cross dresser...

[Jeff Gordon]

Everyone else sees only gobbledygook.

Thanks for the explaination. I have always wondered.

[VadeRetro]

... when the writers talk about "buffering", does this mean that they are talking about pH?

Not when they're talking about "buffering." If they start talking about potty-brains, yes.

BTW, I think calcium carbonate is a neutral salt. It probably won't do much to react with carbon dioxide because it essentially already contains a C0₂ molecule and precipitates out of solution as soon as it is formed.

[HalfFull]

Hey, you're our secret weapon. That's why we set up our posting conflagerator to scramble your posts...

And I seem to remember you saying that you avoid these threads like the plague...hmmmm.

[jennyp]

the fact that the Cambrian explosion completely destroys the theory of evolution as the evolutionists Gould and Eldredge claimed.

Whoa, that's a new one on me! Where did Gould & Eldredge ever claim that the Cambrian explosion "completely destroys the theory of evolution"? Cite, please. (Pretty please.)

[gore3000]

The question becomes: how did God do it?

Intelligence. Science is indeed about how did God do it. It has shown us quite well how many things were indeed done. There are numerous laws in the scientific fields which hold true day after day, year after year and which enable us to predict and learn how to do things. It is these laws, these predictable consequences of actions which should tell any unbiased person that the universe is not a place where randomness is the cause of all things.

[CobaltBlue]

the Cambrian explosion completely destroys the theory of evolution as the evolutionists Gould and Eldredge claimed

Fine, so we'll throw Gould and Eldredge to the wolves. Gould is dead, anyway, he won't care.

So, here we are in the Cambrian, new life forms everywhere - regardless of where they came from - and then they evolve.

Because, most of the life forms on earth today weren't around in the Cambrian. Agreed?

[gore3000]

Only you see the real message. Everyone else sees only gobbledygook.

I doubt that is the case. From the vitriol shown at f.christian's postings one can clearly see that he is getting his point accross very clearly and those who disagree with them don't like it.

[f.Christian]

Intellectually you can not honestly believe in evolution and still be a catholic ... you only get one choice of two --- creator or evolution !

Also if you believe anything but the work of Jesus Christ can save you ... you are a christion in name - label only --- fudging - evolution that is impossible too !