Scientists find evolution of life

EurekAlert ^ | 10/30/03

[Straight Vermonter]

When the current climatology models are applied to the climate as it existed in 1800 they do not accurately describe the climate in 1900.

Why then would these same climatologists believe that they can apply the same model to our current climate and expect an accurate forecast 100 years into the future?

Insanity.

[NewLand]

may owe...
may be due in part...
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was likely covered...

Talk about a leap of faith!

[Old Professer]

The fence is widening to accomodate those straddling it.

[Alter Kaker]

Your English is even worse than my own. Congratulations.

[f.Christian]

Posted by f.Christian to Sentis


Evolution uses existence as proof with no explanation of existence ... it happens (( big bang ))---

you 're comfortable with that gobble - gobble - turkey !




Posted by Sentis to f.Christian

Religion uses God as proof with no explanation of his existence. I know existence exists I don't see god.

[Texas Deer Hunter]

This whole article is pure total .....

[NewLand]

[jennyp]

may owe...
may be due in part...
possibly even promote...
may have grown...
was likely covered...

Talk about a leap of faith!

Huh??? The press release contains the kind of qualifiers you'd expect a careful scientist to make, and you sneer at it as being evidence of a leap of faith???

If instead they said something like "Earth's temperate climate definitively owes its existence to the rise of marine animals with calcium carbonate shells...", would you not be complaining about the scientists' arrogance for daring to make such a definitive statement about the past? Would you not then solemnly intone the common creationist mantra: "This scientist shows more faith in godless materialism than the most ardent believer in God..."?

What, you say you would never do that? OK, then what should the scientist have said in order for you to not blurt out, "leap of faith"?

[VadeRetro]

But in Precambrian times (which lasted up until 544 million years ago), marine organisms in the open ocean did not produce carbonate skeletons -- and ancient rocks from the end of the Precambrian geological age indicate that huge glaciers deposited layers of crushed rock debris thousands of meters thick near the equator. If the land was frozen near the equator, then most of the surface of the planet was likely covered in ice, making Earth look like a giant snowball, the researchers said.

A nice Scientific American article on the Snowball Earth hypothesis, which has gained considerable acceptance. (But some people think it was really only a "Slushball Earth.")

[f.Christian]

To: GaryL

The fossil record shows ... the abrupt appearance of fully-formed species --- exactly what the creation model predicts.

14 posted on ... 10/30/2003 12:15 PM PST by--- f.Christian

[Physicist]

I favor Gelati Earth myself. Mmmm...lemon.

[Physicist]

The fossil record shows ... the abrupt appearance of fully-formed species --- exactly what the creation model predicts.

And the historical record shows the abrupt appearance of fully-grown adults. Ever see Stalin's baby pictures? Neither did I. Hmm...

[PatrickHenry]

PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]

[Ogmios]

Placemarker

[JethroHathAWay]

Ogy Dawg! Have a seat in the bleachers. I'm up to no good. Me and Fourtyseven. Beer?

[VadeRetro]

I favor Gelati Earth myself. Mmmm...lemon.

Someone's going to go with Slurpee Earth or something, but I vote for Vanilla Popsicle Earth. (Haven't had one in 30 years, but I know I used to like them.)

[stanz]

Hey, you're our secret weapon. That's why we set up our posting conflagerator to scramble your posts so no one can figure out what you're saying. Only you see the real message. Everyone else sees only gobbledygook

Oh for goodness sake..and all this time I thought it was me.

[f.Christian]

More power - happiness to everybody ... life goes on !

I know a guy just recently who was punched from behind and knocked to the ground by a guy blocking his car in front of his family and the police at the airport didn't want to get involved in a personal dispute with no evidence ... knock yourselves out !

[NewLand]

"...you say you would never do that? OK..."

Correct. I prefer not to engage in useless exercizes of futility.

"...then what should the scientist have said in order for you to not blurt out, "leap of faith"?"

I was just making an observation, that's all. I don't speak for speculators...in science, finance, or war.

[xm177e2]

1) This would be a very poor thread to choose to engage in flamewarring or flamebaiting.

2) It would be wrong to try to guess my position based on me posting this thread.

Guess? I can tell, with 100% certainty. You're a Nazi. </sarcasm>