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You're Too Late: They're Everywhere
The wit and wisdom of Adam Teiichi Yoshida ^ | Thursday, October 30, 2003 | Adam Teiichi Yoshida

Posted on 10/30/2003 4:06:40 PM PST by Lazamataz

At the present time, California authorities believe that at least half of the fires threatening the southern part of that State were deliberately set. In at least one case, witnesses report seeing a man drive a van into the brush, drop something which started a fire, and speeding away. The general conclusion would seem to be, based upon the vast scale of the fires and the large number caused by deliberate arson, that these fires are something more than the usual: that there’s something else at work in this.

I’m going to go out on a limb here: I believe that the present California wildfires were, at least in part, started by either al-Qaeda or individuals somehow affiliated with terrorism, either directly or indirectly. What is going on in California is not merely an ‘act of God’, but rather a deliberate act of war against America. My second belief is this: if the fires were started by terrorists, unless Osama Bin Laden (or whoever is playing him) admits it in a message, no one in the mainstream press will have the courage to step forward and call it ‘terrorism.’ Rather, we will be blandly assured that those who deliberately set many of these fires were ‘acting alone’ out of motives that are theirs alone. Right. And the DC sniper was a white man driving a white van and the Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman was merely a harmless religious leader.

Based upon information gathered from Terror War detainees, the FBI sent out a warning in June that al-Qaeda was planning something just like this. I point this out not with the purpose in mind of setting off a round of recriminations against the FBI: they did their job, they warned the public. Nor do I blame California authorities: what were they to do, station groups of people to guard every single inch of Californian forest? Nor was there any politically plausible measure that could have then been taken by the Federal Government to prevent this. For that matter, if this was done by terrorists, it was probably done by terrorists who have been previously unknown to the Federal Government. But that does not mean that this was unstoppable.

One of the perpetrators of the great drama of last fall, the DC Sniper attacks, is on trial right now. He is a Moslem- one who expressed great admiration for Osama Bin Laden and went so far as to mark the time on the registration forms of the vehicle he purchased for the attacks at 8:47AM on September 11th, 2002- exactly one year to the minute after the first plane hit the first tower. His crimes were committed, if not at the direction of the Islamist terror masters, then in concert with them. For the most part the Islamist conspiracy doesn’t have a formal induction process; neither does it issue ranks or serial numbers. Agents of Islamism can operate within a formal structure or outside of it, it matters little. There is only one war. There is only one enemy fighting in a highly decentralized fashion. Those who take up arms in support of the enemy are soldiers of the enemy and deserve to be treated as such and labelled as such.

The biggest problem is not, I think, active cells of al-Qaeda terrorists who were trained overseas. Certainly, there are still some in the country, but the dearth of major terrorist events in the twenty-five months since September 11th, combined with critical captures overseas and the seeming focus of al-Qaeda high command upon the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia seems to suggest that most major al-Qaeda sleeper cells within the United States, those with known terrorist links, have been rolled up.

Rather, the problem is the freelancers: people like John Allen Muhammad, who are operating in affiliation with al-Qaeda’s goals but are not members of the organization. There is a vast network of al-Qaeda sympathizers within the United States who, as of this moment, have committed no overt criminal acts. Rather, they are operating in hiding, in secret, plotting attacks that only they can know of. These people are the most dangerous because their plots are almost impossible to detect, except by pure luck. These people might be in contact with overseas (or domestic) controllers, but they offer none of the tell-tale signs of being terrorists. They have not been to Pakistan or Afghanistan for special training, nor have they engaged in other criminal activities which would obviously bring them to the attention of the authorities. Many of them are probably American-born coverts to the Moslem religion, such as John Walker Lindh. They, thankfully, have two characteristics which will make them easier to uncover: they tend to attend more radical Mosques and they tend to be outspoken.

This is a war and it is time that we treat it as such. Those Mosques which preach Jihad against America (or Israel) and raise money for terrorist-related causes need to be closed down and the Clerics who run them interned for the duration of the war. A democracy does not cease to be democratic simply because it refuses to let its enemy operate freely within its borders during wartime. The Constitution is not a suicide pact and, in any case, does not inhibit the free operations of the national defense during a war.

Those who openly support al-Qaeda should not be walking the streets free. This is a dangerous hour and those who support the enemy, or sympathize with it, become the enemy themselves. Allowing those who support terrorists to walk free isn’t an exercise in liberty, but rather one in moral cowardice. Known supporters of terrorism, of Osama Bin Laden, of al-Qaeda, of Hamas, of Hezbollah, and of any other Islamist group need to be interned for the duration of the war.

I know that this will bring shouts and scoffs. How dare I, a person of Japanese descent, suggest an internment? Those who laugh have missed the point of why the Japanese internment was wrong altogether. The internment of the Japanese was wrong, not because it is wrong to intern anyone, but because the American and Canadian governments interned everyone. During World War Two, some Germans and Italians were interned as well: but only those suspected of supporting Hitler and Mussolini. Had only those Japanese believed to be sympathetic towards the government of Japan been interned, there would have been nothing wrong with what happened.

I do not propose the internment of all Moslems, far from it. Within American society, the average Moslem has been Westernized and Americanized and less in common with Osama Bin Laden than the average liberal Democrat. Rather, I propose the internment of that minority of Moslems which sympathizers with the aims of Radical Islam, those who would join with the enemies of America in the destruction of America.

We have no way to determine which lover of Osama will start building bombs and which will confine himself to writing screeds in his support and posting them on the internet. It doesn’t really matter: they are both equally guilty.

We need not fear al-Qaeda and its friends if only we can find the will to combat them with sufficient force.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: adamyoshida; johnallenmuhammad
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To: Lazamataz
Al Queda would never shut up about their fires if they set them. They would be pumping out video tapes praising their "peacful religion's god" as the infidels burned.
81 posted on 10/30/2003 5:52:26 PM PST by pfflier
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To: tpaine
Saying you've over-reacted is personal? Whatever..

Talking about me as opposed to the subject of the thread is the definition of the term 'personal'.

It's not about me. Nobody cares about me. It's about the SoCal fires.

82 posted on 10/30/2003 5:55:02 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: pfflier
Al Queda would never shut up about their fires if they set them. They would be pumping out video tapes praising their "peacful religion's god" as the infidels burned.

Actually, I don't think Al Qaeda ever took credit for the WTC attack on 9/11. I could be wrong. But I know they didn't take credit right away, if they did at all.

83 posted on 10/30/2003 5:56:20 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: TheCrusader
Diabolical is a better word.

No, I just looked up the definition of diabolical, and while it addresses the evil, it does not address the brilliance of the plan.

It was a brilliant plan. It thought completely out of the box, and really caught everyone by surprise. It is no negative to concede that your enemy out-thought you.... ONCE.

I'll compromise: It was diabolically brilliant.

84 posted on 10/30/2003 6:00:14 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
I believe that Bin Laden sent several videotapes out , one just after the attack, specifically talking about Atta and some of the other attackers, praising the attack and the cause.
85 posted on 10/30/2003 6:04:06 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Lazamataz
They just don't see thousands of years of hatred of Jews. People need to open their eyes.
86 posted on 10/30/2003 6:05:29 PM PST by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
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To: Lazamataz
tpaine:
Logging & enviros have nothing to do with the So Cal fires.





You wondering if its Al-Qaeda, too? I sure am.
60 Laz





No, -- I'm wondering how you can be rabblerousing for internment camps, given the family history you talked about on Chancys 'Jooo hating' thread today.
61 tpaine




Talking about me as opposed to the subject of the thread is the definition of the term 'personal'.
It's not about me. Nobody cares about me. It's about the SoCal fires.
-laz-




My 1st post was about the fires..

You wised off about terrorists & I replied in kind ..
Try to pay attention rather than over-reacting.
87 posted on 10/30/2003 6:07:44 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: tpaine
You wised off about terrorists & I replied in kind .. Try to pay attention rather than over-reacting.

LOL! Never change, tpaine.

88 posted on 10/30/2003 6:16:57 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
I have an idea, it is landowners who are finding a way to clear their land without having to deal with evironwacko nonsense.
89 posted on 10/30/2003 6:30:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
I have an idea, it is landowners who are finding a way to clear their land without having to deal with evironwacko nonsense.

Also plausible.

90 posted on 10/30/2003 6:34:50 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
Nor do you laz..

The truth is in our posts, not in your silly spin.
91 posted on 10/30/2003 6:41:16 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: tpaine
The truth is in our posts, not in your silly spin.

HA! You just cannot help yourself, kinya, tpaine? LOL!

tpaine at the grocery store:

Cashier: That will be 12.49, please.

tpaine: (snarl) You would say that, you polyester-wearin' frightbag. G-d knows why they let you run loose, you twisted, gnarled, half-dead nicotine-smelling jackal. Nothing you've said can convince me that you are anything but a lonely spinster with a cat collection and three worn-out vibrators.

LOL! Gotta love ya, man. I'm glad you hipped me to your modus operendi so many months ago. It makes it easy to see what you're up to, and now it really amuses the heck out of me. :o)

92 posted on 10/30/2003 6:51:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell; Lazamataz
When Puddin' Some married Shaky Getcha, they named their firstborn?

Did I put that in the correct order? If this is removed, nevermind.:-)
93 posted on 10/30/2003 6:54:06 PM PST by auboy (Liberals believe in free speech… theirs not yours.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Last year Arizona's 600,000 acre Rodeo-Chedeski Fire was started by an out of work Apache firefighter. This year dozens of fires have been started on the reservation by people trying to duplicate his success. Maybe we should round up all the Injuns and put them on a reservation.

Hey, might as well throw in US Forest Service rangers while you are at it: A US Forest Service ranger credited with reporting a fire that has blackened nearly 103,000 acres has been charged with starting the blaze.

And some environmentalists along with them :-) See: An Open letter to the Environmentalists - Sierra Times

94 posted on 10/30/2003 6:59:04 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
These fires will clear more land for development. 1000 homes burned but 2000 will take their place.
95 posted on 10/30/2003 7:03:53 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: DoctorMichael
He looked kinda Mexican to me.

I thought he looked kinda French Canadian, myself.

96 posted on 10/30/2003 7:06:04 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: Lazamataz
Those Mosques which preach Jihad against America (or Israel) and raise money for terrorist-related causes need to be closed down and the Clerics who run them interned for the duration of the war.

Can we OUTSOURCE this task to the Israelis?

They seem to have a really effective way of doing this.......

97 posted on 10/30/2003 7:06:51 PM PST by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Baloney, we know the cedar fire (which missed my brother literally by a few houses in 3 directions) was set by a lost hunter shooting a magnesium flare.

Be quiet. Why let facts stand in the way of a good conspiracy theory. Besides, you are ruining it for Al Qaeda who will win this war by frightening the Americans of their own shadows by thinking AQ is lurking in the dark everywhere, behind every corner, in your stalled car, in the broken office copier, in your backed up toilet, etc. They *NEED* all this credit to succeed! So, stop ruining it for them!

99 posted on 10/30/2003 7:14:28 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: Lazamataz
"If you can't SELL it; burn it!"

This was a biggie in Bangkok every couple of years.....
100 posted on 10/30/2003 7:15:48 PM PST by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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