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You're Too Late: They're Everywhere
The wit and wisdom of Adam Teiichi Yoshida ^ | Thursday, October 30, 2003 | Adam Teiichi Yoshida

Posted on 10/30/2003 4:06:40 PM PST by Lazamataz

At the present time, California authorities believe that at least half of the fires threatening the southern part of that State were deliberately set. In at least one case, witnesses report seeing a man drive a van into the brush, drop something which started a fire, and speeding away. The general conclusion would seem to be, based upon the vast scale of the fires and the large number caused by deliberate arson, that these fires are something more than the usual: that there’s something else at work in this.

I’m going to go out on a limb here: I believe that the present California wildfires were, at least in part, started by either al-Qaeda or individuals somehow affiliated with terrorism, either directly or indirectly. What is going on in California is not merely an ‘act of God’, but rather a deliberate act of war against America. My second belief is this: if the fires were started by terrorists, unless Osama Bin Laden (or whoever is playing him) admits it in a message, no one in the mainstream press will have the courage to step forward and call it ‘terrorism.’ Rather, we will be blandly assured that those who deliberately set many of these fires were ‘acting alone’ out of motives that are theirs alone. Right. And the DC sniper was a white man driving a white van and the Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman was merely a harmless religious leader.

Based upon information gathered from Terror War detainees, the FBI sent out a warning in June that al-Qaeda was planning something just like this. I point this out not with the purpose in mind of setting off a round of recriminations against the FBI: they did their job, they warned the public. Nor do I blame California authorities: what were they to do, station groups of people to guard every single inch of Californian forest? Nor was there any politically plausible measure that could have then been taken by the Federal Government to prevent this. For that matter, if this was done by terrorists, it was probably done by terrorists who have been previously unknown to the Federal Government. But that does not mean that this was unstoppable.

One of the perpetrators of the great drama of last fall, the DC Sniper attacks, is on trial right now. He is a Moslem- one who expressed great admiration for Osama Bin Laden and went so far as to mark the time on the registration forms of the vehicle he purchased for the attacks at 8:47AM on September 11th, 2002- exactly one year to the minute after the first plane hit the first tower. His crimes were committed, if not at the direction of the Islamist terror masters, then in concert with them. For the most part the Islamist conspiracy doesn’t have a formal induction process; neither does it issue ranks or serial numbers. Agents of Islamism can operate within a formal structure or outside of it, it matters little. There is only one war. There is only one enemy fighting in a highly decentralized fashion. Those who take up arms in support of the enemy are soldiers of the enemy and deserve to be treated as such and labelled as such.

The biggest problem is not, I think, active cells of al-Qaeda terrorists who were trained overseas. Certainly, there are still some in the country, but the dearth of major terrorist events in the twenty-five months since September 11th, combined with critical captures overseas and the seeming focus of al-Qaeda high command upon the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia seems to suggest that most major al-Qaeda sleeper cells within the United States, those with known terrorist links, have been rolled up.

Rather, the problem is the freelancers: people like John Allen Muhammad, who are operating in affiliation with al-Qaeda’s goals but are not members of the organization. There is a vast network of al-Qaeda sympathizers within the United States who, as of this moment, have committed no overt criminal acts. Rather, they are operating in hiding, in secret, plotting attacks that only they can know of. These people are the most dangerous because their plots are almost impossible to detect, except by pure luck. These people might be in contact with overseas (or domestic) controllers, but they offer none of the tell-tale signs of being terrorists. They have not been to Pakistan or Afghanistan for special training, nor have they engaged in other criminal activities which would obviously bring them to the attention of the authorities. Many of them are probably American-born coverts to the Moslem religion, such as John Walker Lindh. They, thankfully, have two characteristics which will make them easier to uncover: they tend to attend more radical Mosques and they tend to be outspoken.

This is a war and it is time that we treat it as such. Those Mosques which preach Jihad against America (or Israel) and raise money for terrorist-related causes need to be closed down and the Clerics who run them interned for the duration of the war. A democracy does not cease to be democratic simply because it refuses to let its enemy operate freely within its borders during wartime. The Constitution is not a suicide pact and, in any case, does not inhibit the free operations of the national defense during a war.

Those who openly support al-Qaeda should not be walking the streets free. This is a dangerous hour and those who support the enemy, or sympathize with it, become the enemy themselves. Allowing those who support terrorists to walk free isn’t an exercise in liberty, but rather one in moral cowardice. Known supporters of terrorism, of Osama Bin Laden, of al-Qaeda, of Hamas, of Hezbollah, and of any other Islamist group need to be interned for the duration of the war.

I know that this will bring shouts and scoffs. How dare I, a person of Japanese descent, suggest an internment? Those who laugh have missed the point of why the Japanese internment was wrong altogether. The internment of the Japanese was wrong, not because it is wrong to intern anyone, but because the American and Canadian governments interned everyone. During World War Two, some Germans and Italians were interned as well: but only those suspected of supporting Hitler and Mussolini. Had only those Japanese believed to be sympathetic towards the government of Japan been interned, there would have been nothing wrong with what happened.

I do not propose the internment of all Moslems, far from it. Within American society, the average Moslem has been Westernized and Americanized and less in common with Osama Bin Laden than the average liberal Democrat. Rather, I propose the internment of that minority of Moslems which sympathizers with the aims of Radical Islam, those who would join with the enemies of America in the destruction of America.

We have no way to determine which lover of Osama will start building bombs and which will confine himself to writing screeds in his support and posting them on the internet. It doesn’t really matter: they are both equally guilty.

We need not fear al-Qaeda and its friends if only we can find the will to combat them with sufficient force.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
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To: Lazamataz
if any of them expressed solidarity with an Indian terrorist group, or openly planned to start fires, that might be reason to detain them....

They may not exactly be terrorists but I spent a night in Cibeque many moons ago. They actually went around and told everyone not to kill the white guy.

41 posted on 10/30/2003 4:45:31 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Lazamataz
OK - but I gotta do some dishes first, followed by Survivor. And I broke my toe this morning, so I'm moving slow (had to shatter the psyche of a kid over a report card - I blew my voice out and am limping, but I made a really great display of parental rage. My dad would be proud).
42 posted on 10/30/2003 4:46:03 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Dr. Hasslein was the only human character who had any sense in the "Apes" series)
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To: Lazamataz
I just thought I'd put a little energy into noticing the single posted stories. Guess what? There are a lot more of them. Who'd a thunk?

It's a slow night on TV.

43 posted on 10/30/2003 4:46:49 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (There's so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets?--Dick Cavett)
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To: Lazamataz
Good post. And hes right, the consensus now is that there is a terror aspect to the fires, but CNN nor the Bush White House will call it such. Its like that guy on the 4th of July 2002, who carried the gun into LAX and killed someone. We didnt find out his nationality, Egyptian, until 3 days later. Terrorism wont be the death of America, PC will..
44 posted on 10/30/2003 4:48:37 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: Lazamataz
Rather, I propose the internment of that minority of Moslems which sympathizers with the aims of Radical Islam, those who would join with the enemies of America in the destruction of America.

I wonder how he proposes we find them?

This is almost as meaningful as someone who says, "All we need to do for society to be good is to imprison the bad people."
45 posted on 10/30/2003 4:48:39 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Lazamataz
Thanks for putting this together. It works if this turns out to be Enviros working with the Islamists, too.
46 posted on 10/30/2003 4:49:28 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Ong lam hanh huong di La Vang)
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To: Lazamataz
Then he talks about a pretty interesting solution.

Yeah. His solution is to intern the bad Moslems but not the good ones. Genius.
47 posted on 10/30/2003 4:50:15 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: DannyTN
Agreed. The very least our government could do is put an end to what they call controlled burns, which have proven to be anything but controlled burns.

Controlled burns can only be effective in properly managed woodlands.
48 posted on 10/30/2003 4:51:25 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you seen yourself as other people do, you'd laugh too.)
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To: Lazamataz
I mean, if we are at war, and in WWII we detained Italian-Americans and German-Americans who expressed solidarity with our avowed enemies were detained,...

They weren't nearly so discriminating. On the West coast it was virtually a dragnet and on the East coast some fly fishing.

49 posted on 10/30/2003 4:51:42 PM PST by decimon
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To: Lazamataz
Al Queda is spanish for "The Cheese". Oh, no, wait, that's "El Queso".

Al Queda is Spanish for "bad cheese?"

50 posted on 10/30/2003 4:53:12 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Ong lam hanh huong di La Vang)
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To: DoctorMichael
Actually, they posted an artists composite drawing of the driver of a vehicle seen throwing lit material onto a hillside...........He looked kinda Mexican to me. Maybe they can inter these clowns too while their at it.

Well, Aztlan clowns (those Hispanics who propose forming another country out of the Southwest US) have not yet performed a single act against the US that could be construed as an act of war.

So, no. Not until they reach the energy and dedication of El-Queso. Um, I mean Al-Qaeda.

51 posted on 10/30/2003 4:53:51 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
Mark for later read.
52 posted on 10/30/2003 4:54:29 PM PST by Ogmios (Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
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To: ThanhPhero
Al Queda is Spanish for "bad cheese?"

Mal-Queso?

53 posted on 10/30/2003 4:54:34 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Stone Mountain
Yeah. His solution is to intern the bad Moslems but not the good ones. Genius.

LOL. Well, I guess you could identify some of the bad ones when they go "Al Qaeda is great! Osama bin Ladin is a wonderful man! Death to the Great Satan, America!"

54 posted on 10/30/2003 4:56:32 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Spelling was so much easier when we were at war in the far east, where names like, Kim, Ting, Tong, Tang, Poon, etc., were popular.

Poon and Tang are pretty popular with me.

55 posted on 10/30/2003 4:58:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
"They actually went around and told everyone not to kill the white guy."

You prefer they would have drawn straws to see who got to kill the white guy?


56 posted on 10/30/2003 4:58:24 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you seen yourself as other people do, you'd laugh too.)
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To: elbucko; presidio9
presidio9:
but if you're looking for a scapegoat for the LA fires, try the environmentalists (though I don't that'll play too well in California).
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The environmentalists are not scapegoats, but real culprits. Where the logging industry was involved with the forests that have burned, there were traditionally few fires ---





Logging & enviros have nothing to do with the So Cal fires.

57 posted on 10/30/2003 4:59:30 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: Lazamataz
I deliberately placed tang before poon, to confuse the Moderators-you're gonna get us banned.
58 posted on 10/30/2003 5:01:52 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you seen yourself as other people do, you'd laugh too.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Damn.
59 posted on 10/30/2003 5:05:19 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: tpaine
Logging & enviros have nothing to do with the So Cal fires.

You wondering if its Al-Qaeda, too? I sure am.

60 posted on 10/30/2003 5:06:14 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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