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Senate accepts compromise forest-thinning language, 97-1
Environment & Energy Daily reporter | 10-29 | Dan Berman

Posted on 10/30/2003 8:01:06 AM PST by azkathy

This is a good summation of action so far on the Senate deliberations of the Healthy Forests Restoration Act.

FORESTS Senate accepts compromise forest-thinning language, 97-1

Dan Berman, Environment & Energy Daily reporter

As devastating wildfires continue to smolder in Southern California, the Senate today moved to the brink of passing H.R. 1904, the "Healthy Forests Restoration Act," with an overwhelming 97-1 vote to approve a compromise forest-thinning amendment.

The compromise amendment is expected to break a Senate impasse on the legislation, replacing Title I of a companion House-passed bill with language that protects old-growth forests in exchange for restrictions on appeals of logging projects. The compromise is meant to protect forests and communities from catastrophic wildfires.

Unlike the House bill, the Senate compromise would avoid using proceeds from timber sales to pay for fuel reduction projects by authorizing $760 million annually, with a requirement that at least half of those funds be used in wildland-urban border areas near residential communities. The remaining funds would go towards thinning in watershed areas, endangered species habitat or areas damaged by insect infestation.

Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) was the only senator to vote against the compromise.

Senators are expected to consider other amendments to the bill into the evening. Led by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), possible amendments to the bill include those covering language such as judicial review, wildland-urban interface and fuel-reduction funding.

Though there is no schedule for final approval of the bill, final votes are expected tonight.

White House support

The Bush administration today repeated its strong support for the compromise language but issued a statement of administration policy (SAP) opposing any further amendments, "to assure quick resolution with the House."

H.R. 1904 "would further equip federal land managers with the additional tools they need to restore forest health, safeguard habitat and watersheds, combat disease and insects, and protect lives and communities," the SAP states.

The compromise amendment was endorsed by Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), Forestry Subcommittee Chairman Michael Crapo (R-Idaho), Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), among others.

Environmentalists have opposed both the House bill and the Senate compromise language, saying the "Healthy Forests" effort is an attempt to subsidize logging of national forests and undercut national environmental laws.

Supporters of the Senate compromise say it improves on the House language by mandating that 50 percent of all fuel-reduction projects take place in the wildland-urban interface and providing the first federal statutory protections of old-growth forests.

Regulatory changes in the House-passed bill would limit alternatives that can be studied under required National Environmental Policy Act assessments, streamline the appeals process, and increase the use of categorical exclusions that allow agencies to bypass the study process altogether. Supporters say the NEPA rules and lawsuits by environmental groups slow down needed thinning projects.

"Citizens have a right to access on timber sales, but they don't have a constitutional right to a five-year delay," Wyden said.

The House bill would give federal judges 45 days to review preliminary injunctions against logging projects, while the Senate compromise would grant 60 days, as well as remove a provision requiring judges to give weight to findings by the Interior or Agriculture departments when making decisions.

"The bottom line is this compromise will allow the Forest Service to spend more time doing on-the-ground fuel reduction projects," Daschle said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: environment; fires; healthyforests; senatevote

1 posted on 10/30/2003 8:01:07 AM PST by azkathy
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To: farmfriend
ping
2 posted on 10/30/2003 8:02:52 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Opposed:

Democrat, Rhode Island.

Who'd have thunk it?
3 posted on 10/30/2003 8:05:44 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: azkathy
OK, where is the ballsy Republican who will go on TV and read a list of names of Senators who voted YES on this AFTER 20 or so fire deaths and billions of dollars in fire damage, but would not vote YES BEFORE the losses.
4 posted on 10/30/2003 8:14:28 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive; SierraWasp; farmfriend
The blame game has started, the OC Register takes a shot at FEMA in this mornings edition.
5 posted on 10/30/2003 8:21:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis needs to get out of Arnoold's Office)
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To: azkathy
What a bunch of opportunists. Don't America ever get tired of this vote pandering but, only when and if you have to. This is sooooooooooooooooo convenient.

What does it take to convince a Democrat that they are thee problem.

6 posted on 10/30/2003 8:29:23 AM PST by chachacha
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To: azkathy
Dozens dead, thousand of homes burned, and hundreds of thousands of acres later, the Dems admit they were wrong to block sensible legislation.

When liberal policies crater (California, '70's Taxes, Forests, Welfare, Cold War) they come around too late. The collateral damage we incur while they live out their fantasies is horrific.
7 posted on 10/30/2003 8:37:36 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Democrat, Rhode Island.

Who'd have thunk it?

That's because they didn't support his amendment to thin nightclubs that have Great White Concerts. < /sarcasm>

8 posted on 10/30/2003 8:41:24 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Californians should remember Barbara BOxer's opposition before the fires and VOTE her out next year! She's such a loser!
9 posted on 10/30/2003 8:51:50 AM PST by princess leah
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Opposed: Democrat, Rhode Island.

Who'd have thunk it?

Worth noting: the SoCal fires have burned an area nearly as large as his pissant state. What would be his tune if his whole state had been leveled.

10 posted on 10/30/2003 9:07:33 AM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Carry_Okie; azkathy
Okie, what do you think of the passages protecting old growth forests?

If I have understood your own writings and those of others, it's old growth forests that are exactly the problem - if they are not thinned, they're endangered.

Am I missing anything, or is this still a pretty dangerous compromise?

D
11 posted on 10/30/2003 9:23:58 AM PST by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis
We have 190 million acres of forest at risk of catastrophic fire. The HFI promises to spend $100 billion thinning 10 million acres, and plans to use exclusively fire to manage those lands after that. As far as I am concerned it is little more than a cynical ruse.

I won't make a generalization like "old growth is the problem," since I view such things on an individual case basis, but I would say that many old growth forests are at risk largely due to accumulations of undergrowth.

My understanding is that the HFI was largely written by the Wilderness Society. IMHO, when considering the magnitude of our nation's forestry problems, it's stupid, it's expensive, it's bureaucratic, it's too little, and too late... but it is a start. At least they have acknowledged that there is a problem. They don't understand the causes much less the solutions. I think the longer term is much more serious than we realize.

I've stayed out of the day to day fire stuff because I find most people's understanding of what needs to be done so upsetting. I have put up one little rant you might find useful. Have you dug very far into the book?

12 posted on 10/30/2003 9:49:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by politics.)
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13 posted on 10/30/2003 10:02:45 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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BTTT!!!!!!!
14 posted on 10/30/2003 10:07:49 AM PST by E.G.C.
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fyi
15 posted on 10/30/2003 3:39:13 PM PST by Dark Wing
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