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'Let human shield boy die'
This is London ^ | 10-29-03 | By Rebecca Smith and Rebecca Mowling

Posted on 10/29/2003 6:25:26 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Doctors will apply to the High Court to turn off the life-support of a London student who has been in a coma since an Israeli soldier shot him.

Tom Hurndall, 22, has been in a permanent vegetative state for more than six months after being shot in the head while taking pictures with a human shield group in the West Bank.

His family, from north London, have been told there is no hope of him recovering.

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Specialists caring for the photography student at the Royal Hospital for Neurodisability, in Putney, are now expected to ask judges for permission to withdraw life-support, according to Carl Arrindall, a close family friend.

He said there is now "no question" about whether it is right to let Mr Hurndall die, because his quality of life is so low.

Mr Hurndall's solicitor father, Anthony, mother Jocelyn, a teacher, and the couple's other children Sophie, 24, Billy, 18, and Freddie, 13, hope to bring him home for his final hours.

Mr Arrindall said: "They accept that in Tom's own journals he made it clear if anything like this happened he would not want to be kept alive. They are grateful he made that statement and they regard it as a living will.

"There has been an ongoing protracted process of the medical assessment of Tom and the specialists' conclusion is that he is in a vegetative state, and the quality of life is so low there is a question as to whether it is right to keep him like that for any protracted period of time.

"The legal process does involve consulting with the family but does not require them to agree with the decision. The decision is made by the specialists.

"The question is, 'is there any just cause for keeping him alive?

"The family have come to terms with this over many months. If possible they will bring him home if a decision is finally agreed by the court."

Today, however, Mr Hurndall's mother made it clear the family was uncomfortable with the doctors' decision and said: "Maybe it does not have to happen.

"There is a question about if he should die. I'm not absolutely convinced if he feels pain, and cannot bear it if he is semi-aware."

Mr Hurndall, a Manchester Metropolitan University student, was shot on 11 April while observing and recording the work of a Palestinian peace group in Gaza and the activities of the Israeli army.

He had previously served as a human shield in Iraq. He joined the International Solidarity Movement, and agreed to accompany them to Rafah, a town on the border between Gaza and Egypt at the southern end of the Gaza Strip. Rafah is caught between the Israeli army and Palestinian fighters.

His family say they are committed to finding the truth and to obtaining justice for him. They are campaigning for Foreign Secretary Jack Straw to conduct a full inquiry and ensure those responsible for the shooting are prosecuted.

They believe Mr Hurndall was deliberately shot by the Israeli army because of his work photographing their activities on the West Bank.

Mr Hurndall's sister Sophie said her brother had documented the shootings of many civilians by soldiers and was trying to help a group of children when he was shot.

She said: "He saw machinegun fire being directed at a mound of earth on which about 20 children were playing.

"Most of the children fled but three young children were too scared to move - two girls and a boy aged between five and eight.

"Tom walked forward and picked up the little boy, named Salem Baroum. Having brought Salem back to safety he returned for the second child. Tom was shot in the head by a single sniper as he leaned forward to pick up a little girl."

The Israeli army has agreed to carry out a military police inquiry.

Mr Hurndall's family have set up a website at www.tomhurndall.co.uk


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: human; ism; qualityoflife; shield; tomhurndall
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Tom Hundall
1 posted on 10/29/2003 6:25:27 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here's moron who joined up with International Solidarity Movement.


2 posted on 10/29/2003 6:30:02 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Good riddance>

He was a supporter of barbarians who deliberately target civilians. He got what he deserved.

Thanks, Darwin.

And the H-ll with his family also. Sounds like a lyars nest.

3 posted on 10/29/2003 6:40:43 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: finnman69
Little bit different story here.
She said: "He saw machinegun fire being directed at a mound of earth on which about 20 children were playing.

"Most of the children fled but three young children were too scared to move - two girls and a boy aged between five and eight.

"Tom walked forward and picked up the little boy, named Salem Baroum. Having brought Salem back to safety he returned for the second child. Tom was shot in the head by a single sniper as he leaned forward to pick up a little girl."

Now, I wouldn't have gone to Israel in the capacity that this man did. But had I, for some reason, been on the scene and witnessed the event as described here, I probably would've done the same thing he did.

4 posted on 10/29/2003 6:42:56 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: americanSoul
You sound like you know his family?
5 posted on 10/29/2003 6:43:31 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
I wasn't there. I don't know the truth. If there is more than one story, and there are contradictions between the stories, I would tend to be quite skeptical of the story which paints the IDF as ruthless thugs and the "shield boy" as saintly tourist.

They tried to do the same thing with Rachel Corrie, I believe.

Again, I don't know the truth. But I do see a lot of anti-Israeli propaganda in the media.

6 posted on 10/29/2003 6:47:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Prodigal Son
They support his views, that's enough for me.

99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

7 posted on 10/29/2003 6:49:57 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Again, I don't know the truth. But I do see a lot of anti-Israeli propaganda in the media.

I'm with you on this. If the Israeli army wanted to target civilians and children the death toll would be an awfully lot larger than even the wildest Palestinian claims. Evil Jooooish soldiers targeting happily playing children with a machine gun? Um... I doubt it.

8 posted on 10/29/2003 6:51:06 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: Prodigal Son
Don't believe everything you hear from the Palis.
9 posted on 10/29/2003 6:51:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I don't. You will note, I qualified my statement.
10 posted on 10/29/2003 6:53:37 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: americanSoul
They support his views, that's enough for me.

So what did they lie about?

11 posted on 10/29/2003 6:54:26 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A photo taken by Tom.

One might examine who one sides with. Honetly, were I to stand there and see this in person, I would most assuredly feel that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

12 posted on 10/29/2003 6:55:01 AM PST by BigLittle
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To: Snuffington
Right on!

Look at the precedence. These medieval savages glorify targeting civilians, while the IDF will abort a mission if there is a high probability of collateral damage.

A no brainer as to who occupies the moral high ground.

13 posted on 10/29/2003 6:55:05 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I wasn't there. I don't know the truth. If there is more than one story, and there are contradictions between the stories, I would tend to be quite skeptical of the story which paints the IDF as ruthless thugs and the "shield boy" as saintly tourist.

Aye. I can go along with that. I don't know the truth either. None of us do. Therefore, I wouldn't be so quick to mock the dead (not that you did).

It seems to me, people are going to read this story in a way that confirms their pre-existing prejudices or beliefs. That is always a dangerous thing in my opinion in that it reduces one's objectivity. Without having been there and seen what happened, none of us can really say who is right and wrong.

14 posted on 10/29/2003 6:58:25 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Palestinian peace group

OxyMORON

15 posted on 10/29/2003 6:58:31 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: BigLittle
Honetly, were I to stand there and see this in person, I would most assuredly feel that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Hmmm. Me too. But we would get very little news if everybody was like that. For example, those embedded reporters- I much appreciate their work but it is not the sort of thing your everyday person would willingly do.

16 posted on 10/29/2003 7:01:04 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
His family say they are committed to finding the truth and to obtaining justice for him. They are campaigning for Foreign Secretary Jack Straw to conduct a full inquiry and ensure those responsible for the shooting are prosecuted.

The family need look no further than the leftist press in the U.K. to determine who influenced this gullible young man, who bought the line and went where he shouldn't have gone.

17 posted on 10/29/2003 7:11:05 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: americanSoul
What did his family lie about? I reread the article several times and I don't see what you were referring to.
18 posted on 10/29/2003 7:13:27 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
I was just making a reference to the fact his father is a lawyer.
19 posted on 10/29/2003 7:26:02 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: Prodigal Son
none of us can really say who is right and wrong.

Common sense tells me not to throw rocks at a man with a gun, and common sense tells me not to get between people shooting at each other. Therefore if you put youself in this position just remember Sh-- happens.

20 posted on 10/29/2003 7:28:35 AM PST by org.whodat
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