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Teen's death in 'Ding, Dong, Ditch' game haunts many
Miami Herald ^ | 10/28/03 | Ashley Fantz

Posted on 10/28/2003 6:23:38 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

A man who shot and killed a teenage boy playing an after-dark prank could face criminal charges. Legal experts say if the shooter claims self-defense, he'll have a difficult case to prove.

Ding, Dong, Ditch. That's the name of a game, played for generations, in which kids knock on a neighbor's door and run away. Then they watch from afar as the homeowner fumes at an empty porch.

But half past midnight Saturday, Mark Andrew Drewes, celebrating his 16th birthday, was shot dead in Boca Raton's Boca del Mar subdivision while playing the game.

The shooter, Jay Steven Levin, 40, told investigators he ''was in fear'' that the teen intended to rob him and that he spied 'something in Drewes' hand,'' according to a Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office report.

The teenager, who stumbled to a neighbor's yard and died, was unarmed, Palm Beach County sheriff's spokeswoman Diane Carhart said .

As sheriff's detectives continue their investigation and the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office weighs whether Levin will face charges, the tragedy recalls previous cases that involved shooters who have claimed defense of property or fear of attack.

This past April, Alejandro Avila was arrested and charged with attempted manslaughter for shooting and critically wounding a 13-year-old. Police said Avila discovered the teen trying to steal his car from the driveway.

At the time of the February incident, Avila said the teenager had accelerated toward him, although Miramar police said his account did not match evidence.

Levin spoke to The Herald in a brief telephone interview Monday, saying he had retained an attorney but declined to disclose the lawyer's name.

''I just can't talk right now,'' he said. ``I've been instructed not to.''

If Levin is charged, his attorney will have to establish that he had a legitimate fear of being burglarized, and that during the incident Levin reasonably believed he was in imminent danger, said Ken Padowitz, a Fort Lauderdale attorney who has handled numerous self-defense cases.

Legal experts said Levin could argue that his state of mind was influenced by past crimes against his property. The Palm Beach Post reported that Levin made two calls to sheriff's deputies in recent years to report vandalism to his home. In March 2000, he said he heard ''popping noises'' outside his residence and saw two ''young white men'' running away. The next day, he discovered holes in his home's front windows. The sheriff's office confirmed that someone had fired paintball pellets at the house.

In February 2001, Levin called the sheriff's office, complaining that he had found a small hole in another window, although he told officers he was unsure what caused it.

CASTLE DOCTRINE

Padowitz acknowledged that most people misunderstand the limitations of what's known as the Castle Doctrine, which allows homeowners to use lethal force in defending people and property contained within the ''four walls'' of their abode. If a conflict occurs outside that area, such as on a front porch, that defense won't hold up in court, Padowitz said.

''And you cannot shoot someone if they are attempting to run away, which would mean the threat is no longer present,'' he said.

Sheriff's detectives are not saying where the bullet entered Drewes' body. The boy's 17-year-old friend who witnessed the shooting told detectives Drewes was shot in the back while he tried to flee. The boy has not been identified by authorities.

Steve Drizin specializes in juvenile justice at Chicago's Northwestern University School of Law. He believes additional factors should be considered to determine what charges, if any, are appropriate.

If Levin says he thought he saw a weapon in Drewes' hand, how was the lighting on the porch? Were there words exchanged between Drewes and Levin before Levin fired?

Levin's fate also hinges on public opinion, asserts Miami attorney Robert Barrar, law partner of Ellis Rubin, who successfully defended Prentice Rasheed in 1987. Tired of enduring frequent burglaries at his business, Rasheed booby-trapped his shop with an electrified grid over the door, killing an intruder.

Rasheed's case gained sympathy among crime-weary South Floridians and a grand jury refused to indict him.

UP TO GRAND JURY

''If it's up to a grand jury, if a defense attorney can get to the press and the community, that can make a difference,'' Barrar said.

As of Monday, there was no indication the public is siding with Levin. Protesters picketed outside his home all day Sunday, while neighbors angrily condemned his actions.

Meanwhile, a wreath of flowers and notes sat outside Pope John Paul II High School in Boca Raton, where Drewes was in his sophomore year.

''He was known as everybody's buddy, a good student, just a very nice boy,'' said the Rev. Guy Fiano of the school. ``The students are continuing to pray and reach out to one another to come to terms with this tragedy.''



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1 posted on 10/28/2003 6:23:38 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Alejandro Avila

Is that the man who killed Samantha Runnion?

2 posted on 10/28/2003 6:29:01 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The boy's 17-year-old friend who witnessed the shooting told detectives Drewes was shot in the back while he tried to flee. The boy has not been identified by authorities

If we leave it to the athtorities nothing will ever get done.

The dead infant's accomplice was
Anatoly Martynenko

sun-sentinel

3 posted on 10/28/2003 6:32:17 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (You realize, of course, this means war?" B Bunny)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Padowitz acknowledged that most people misunderstand the limitations of what's known as the Castle Doctrine, which allows homeowners to use lethal force in defending people and property contained within the ''four walls'' of their abode. If a conflict occurs outside that area, such as on a front porch, that defense won't hold up in court, Padowitz said.

** **** *******
He is wrong. You can defend on your property. I know because I have taken that to jury AND won.

If the assailant is retreating, outside your home the treat is gone but that does not mean you have an obligation to let your guard down. (ie retreat,attack,retreat,attack)

It is a subtle point and I believe the miami herald reporter defenetly botched the quote.
4 posted on 10/28/2003 6:32:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Very tragic.
Once I had was involved in a similar incident for an active duty military guy. I was the area casualty assistance officer. A young man had returned home on leave and had been drinking with this high school buddies. They drove him home, and dropped him off at the foot of his parents' driveway (a very steep 75 or so yard long dirt road). He was very drunk and disoriented. He walked across the road and started banging on the door of a neighbor, a lady in her seventies who lived alone. Apparently, according to the police report, she was terrified by this drunk outside her home banging on her door, wanting to be let in. She didn't know who it was but was very scared. She shot her rifle through the door (I think it had glass in it) killing the young man.
5 posted on 10/28/2003 6:34:56 AM PST by ampat
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To: longtermmemmory
I don't think the reporter did too badly. Shooting a suspect who is clearly in flight and outside the four walls is not generally protected behavior under the castle doctrine, precisely because the threat is gone. The homeowner can certainly stand ready for an attempt by the perp to turn back around, but outside the four walls, and in flight, the defense is very tough to get.
6 posted on 10/28/2003 6:39:39 AM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
''And you cannot shoot someone if they are attempting to run away, which would mean the threat is no longer present,'' he said.



So guy breaks in my house kills my wife and starts to run away as I am getting the HK and I cant shoot him.BS

I am glad here in VA this is a no retreat state.
7 posted on 10/28/2003 6:41:19 AM PST by sickofthehandouts
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Overreaction alert? It's hard to tell from one news article. Too many would-be crime victims beat up (or do worse)to their teenage assailents to hear, "Your honor, we was just playin'". Then again, there are lots of nasty coots around.
8 posted on 10/28/2003 6:42:11 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'm all for the rights of a homeowner to protect his home, but if the facts of this case play out as depicted in this story, that the boy was shot in the back while running away, this man should go to prison for a long time.

It would seem to me the man was probably just a hot-head who lost his temper and opened fire. This boy was pulling a harmless prank that 16 year old boys have done for generations. The shooter didn't feel threatened, he was pissed off. And his temper ended up killing a 16 year old boy.

9 posted on 10/28/2003 6:42:48 AM PST by tdadams
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"So guy breaks in my house kills my wife and starts to run away as I am getting the HK and I cant shoot him."

Temporary insanity; or you thought he was going to get more ammo.

10 posted on 10/28/2003 6:43:16 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Oztrich Boy
Martynenko told his mother he was handcuffed and held by deputies for several hours.

*****from article refrenced***

Interesting.

It also points that the homeowner was confronting two people not just one.

There is no mention of the fishing line on the door knocker as was reported on the radio yesterday. That report indicated they used the line to contuaously repeat the knocker.

** ****** ******* ****** **** In a brief interview at his front door Monday, Levin said he was in the process of hiring an attorney. He pointed to the remnants of a vigil held on his lawn Sunday night. Candle wax mottled the sidewalk in front of his home, and frayed roses lay on the grass. His green mailbox at the street had been bashed in and knocked to the ground.

"They polluted a crime scene," Levin said.

** **** *****

Smart, destroys any evidence the police might have missed in the yard or area around the house. Then again the police must have picked up most of what they needed.

I wonder if they are going to search these kids homes for bb/painguns?

11 posted on 10/28/2003 6:46:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Was the kid armed? Did he pose a threat, I have concealed carry and this doesn't fit the criteria of equal force.
12 posted on 10/28/2003 6:47:51 AM PST by boomop1
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To: Petronski
No it is not. That misrepresents the law in the state of FL.There is no four wall jury instruction. It is just bad reporting.
13 posted on 10/28/2003 6:48:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: tdadams
Those pranks are long gone. Every shoplifter is prosecuted, every car thief caught is prosecuted. No more innocent fun.

The statement of shot in the back comes from the accomplice. This could easily be a mistaken exit wound. Easy enough for an untrained person to mistake. We need more information about this issue.

BTW if the second kid made a threatening motion, that could have caused this tradgedy. That kid himself could have something to hide.
14 posted on 10/28/2003 6:51:41 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
He is wrong. You can defend on your property. I know because I have taken that to jury AND won.

It varies by state. Here in Massachusetts, the law requires that if your home is invaded, you have an obligation to leave instead of confronting the intruder. You can only resort to deadly force if all means of egress have been cut off.

15 posted on 10/28/2003 6:52:42 AM PST by Maceman
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To: longtermmemmory
"every car thief caught is prosecuted. No more innocent fun. "

car theft is innocent fun?
16 posted on 10/28/2003 6:53:52 AM PST by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: boomop1
a genuine threat is not required. The reasonablness of the percieved threat.

For example, man catches carthief stealing car from his home. The man sees a silver object like a barrel. Shoots thief dead. Object was a ratchet. Man is not guilty because he was in imminent fear of physical harm.

Woman who is being raped, (classic example) she would be able to shoot in response.

Even reaching for a wallet has been used as self defense. Any suspicious movement can justify the force.

Hindsight is not the issue, the issue is that moment in time. These kids were doing a prank to create an aprehension. The found a victim who had been vandalized in his home twice before. That is the victem they found, no they both have to live with the consequences. (btw tying the string on the knocker is a vandalism)

Still the bullet shots will be an interesting part of the story.
17 posted on 10/28/2003 6:57:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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When I was growing up in FL, some sheriff's deputies responded to a burglary call at a girl's house I know. They asked her dad if he had a gun, and whether he had taught her how to use it. Then they said, "next time someone breaks in, shoot 'em. If they run outside, shoot 'em. We'll help you drag 'em back in the house".
18 posted on 10/28/2003 6:58:10 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: petercooper
in ye olden days, kids would still cars for joy rides. (ride around then just leave the car intact where it would be found.)
19 posted on 10/28/2003 6:58:53 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
BTW if the second kid made a threatening motion, that could have caused this tradgedy. That kid himself could have something to hide.

Or the guy was just mad, overreacted and shot an innocent kid out goofing around. This is what rampant paranoia and a crisis-mongering media engender. People need to get a grip.

Next you'll be defending some whackjob who picks off trick-or-treaters later this week, thinking they were prowlers.

Snidely

20 posted on 10/28/2003 6:59:16 AM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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