Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

10/27/03 | Myself

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Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS ---------------- Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

[76834]

You beat me to it, but not by much.....

[hole_n_one]

[PhiKapMom]

It was the LA County fire spokesman -- he said winds are shifting and they are concerned that the fire is making its own winds now and could start burning west if it breaks through the lines at Chatsworth. Just reporting what the LA County Fire Spokesman was saying.

[ReagansShinyHair]

You know how easy it is to mispronounce netnames in your head? I know yours is let-it-ring but I keep saying "le tiring" to myself and it makes me chuckle. Just thought I'd share. hehe

You know, I keep thinking letitring is "Le tit ring". Yes, bad, I know. And amusing.

[GOPrincess]

"It looks like WWIII."

A FReeper over the weekend took issue with my unhappiness about the relative TV coverage of the fires (very poor) vs. the East Coast blackout (wall-to-wall). Yes, I know the blackout covered a few states and started at rush hour, and no one knew what caused it at first, but the bottom line is that with the blackout, people were inconvenienced. What's happening here is unimaginable death and devastation (and we're not *absolutely* positive what "caused" this in every instance, either). This also affects people across the country who are wondering if their loved ones are safe or have their homes. Maybe if he were in the middle of all this he'd see things differently.

[BossLady]

#1542 Holy Crap! Is that still Simi or???

[hole_n_one]

It's completely out of control.

[Ladypixel]

Okay, I finally have the fires-active list updated... I /think/. Here's the most recent version of the list. More updates to come. If you have more information or corrections, either post it here or freepmail me. Thanks!


Current Fires Active list for California

Most recent total update: 1,100 homes lost in the southland. 325,000 acres burned. 30,000 homes still threatened by the fire.


Hemet fire, Riverside county. As of last heard report, 6500 acres burned. May have joined with the Mountain fire (see below).

Simi Valley fire, Ventura county/northern Los Angeles county - Combined with original Val Verde/Santa Clarita fire. 120,000 acres. Six homes destroyed, eight damaged. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25. Firefighters trying to save Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark. Personnel: 599 firefighters. Cause: Arson. People in Box Canyon, Woolsey Canyon, Twin Lakes, Iverson Ranch, and other nearby regions have been evacuated. Evacuated region is north of Santa Suzanna Pass. Fire currently closest to Indian Oaks mobile home park.

Piru fire, Ventura county - 5,500 acres. Containment: 85 percent. Start: Oct. 23, west of Lake Piru in Ventura County. The fire in Los Padres National Forest is threatening the Sespe Wilderness and Sespe Condor sanctuary. There are no condors currently in the refuge. Voluntary evacuations in Piru and parts of Fillmore. Personnel: 780 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Grand Prix fire, San Bernardino & Los Angeles counties - 40 mile fireline from LA to San Bernardino county (includes Old Waterman fire and Crestline fire) - Fire line is 40 miles long including the Old Waterman fire. 35,000 acres. 62 homes destroyed. Containment: 23 percent. Mandantory evacuations in Lytle Creek, Mt. Baldy, Rialto, and parts of Claremont, Upland, and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Mtns. Personnel: 2,427 firefighters. Fire started on Foxborough Drive in the city of Fontana. Cause: Arson. Fire considered 100 percent contained in western region reaching from La Verne, CA to Rancho Cucamonga, CA. (Yay!)

Old Waterman fire, San Bernardino county - Size: 15,000 acres. 300 homes and ten commercial buildings destroyed. Deaths: 2. Containment: 5 percent. Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest. Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead. Personnel: 917 firefighters. Cause: Arson.

Crestline fire, San Bernardino county - Burning next to Crestline and Lake Arrowhead currently, with evacuations in Big Bear, Running Springs, Blue Jay, and other close areas. Acreage unknown. Grand Prix fire is burning up the mountain to join with it, slowly but surely. Approx. 30 structures in Crestline burned. Mandantory evacuations in Lake Arrowhead, Rim Forest, Sky Forest, Running Springs, Arrowbear, Blue Jay, Crestline, Green Valley Springs, and Big Bear. Hospital in Lake Arrowhead has been evacuated as per NBC4 broadcast; patients have been taken to hospitals in Hesperia and other high-desert cities.

Valley Center fire, San Diego county - See Paradise Fire

San Clemente/Camp Pendleton fire, San Diego county - Freeper reports that it was just south of San Onofre power plant, a couple miles inland from the 5 freeway. Size: 4,800 acres. Containment: 75 percent. No structures burned, although the fire threatened homes in nearby De Luz. Started Oct. 21st on the base north of San Diego. Key facts: Authorities are downplaying early reports that fire was ignited by live ammo exercises on the base. Personnel: 1,000 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Mountain fire, Riverside county - Now combo fire, including Rancho California fire: 6,000 acres. Six structures destroyed. Containment: 60 percent. Some burn injuries reported. Evacuations ordered for homes near Lake Skinner. Two civillian injuries. Personnel: 250 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Riverside fire, Riverside county - Fire was located at last report (2:42pm) at Limonite Av/northbound I-15. Brush fire, no visibility on freeway at report time.

Malibu fire, Los Angeles/Ventura county region - FIRE OUT as of 10/26/03! Hooray!

Otay Lakes fire, San Diego county. Still active. Last update as of 3:56pm; location of fire was Otay Lakes Rd. at Wueste Rd. Closure on Otay Lakes Rd. at the 94. Fire jumped to northbound side of Procter Vally at Otay Lakes Rd. No other info available.

Cedar fire, San Diego county. Structures burned: 100 homes in Ramona, 150 in Scripps Ranch, 10 in Tierrasanta, 8 in Santee, 50-100 structures in Crest (east of El Cajon), many other structures. Deaths: 9. Injured: 2 firefighters, several civilians. Started Oct. 25 in eastern San Diego County, between Julian and Ramona. 200,000 acres burned. Personnel: More than 800 firefighters. Containment: 0 percent. Extends to Scripps Ranch, Poway, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, portions of Santee, Lakeside, Ramona, El Cajon, San Carlos, Alpine, and Blossom Valley. Air traffic nationwide was disrupted when this fire forced the evacuation of a FAA control center at Miramar. Cause: Authorities believe a hunter set a signal fire when he got lost.

Dulzura fire, San Diego county - Also known as the Mine fire. 15,000 acres. Containment: 0 percent. Personnel: 300 firefighters. Started Oct. 26 in southern San Diego county. Fire crossed the border into Mexico, but no structures were threatened in Tijuana. Cause: Under investigation.

Paradise fire, San Diego county. Also known as Escondido fire. 15,000 acres. 57 homes and 103 outbuildings burned (no homes in Escondido area were lost), two deaths. Containment: 0 percent. Started Oct. 26 in Valley Center area near Interstate 15. Valley View Casino evacuated. Personnel: More than 500+ firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Poway fire: See Cedar fire.

Ramona fire: See Cedar fire.

DePortola (Temecula) fire, Riverside county (may be San Diego county?) - Started 2:16pm 10/27/03 near the I-15 & Hwy 76. Small brush fire. May be out.

Norco? fire, Los Angeles county - Started approx 2:58 pm, fire beneath the 71 freeway, 2 suspects with a red cass can seen running towards the local humane society. No additional details since 3:12pm. Fire estimated to be at SR71 just north of Mission Blvd. (May have to go personally check this one out.)

San Luis Obispo fire, county unknown - Reported at 9:03am. As of report at 1:03pm, fire was burning towards Resevoir Canyon in a SE direction. Fire near the 101 freeway; as per 3:04pm report, traffic delays up to 45 minutes due to fire.

Yucaipa fire, Riverside/San Bernardino county - Reported to be near state route 38 and Bryant. No other info available.

Antelope Valley fire, county unknown - Not much info on this fire, except a location (as of 3:46pm) of Avenue J at 90th St. East.

Long Beach fire, Los Angeles county - Not much info on this fire except location of 5602 N. Long Beach Blvd; may be a building fire in-city and not a wildfire.

Convoy fire, San Diego county - Reported start at 3:29pm, location westbound 52 at Convoy. Small brush fire. No other info available.

Redding fire, San Bernardino county - Reported as of 5:52pm, location Dersch Rd. at Parkville Rd in Redding. No additional info available.

Point Reyes fire (Northern California) - Reported as of 3:46pm. A ditch was on fire along Petaluma Rd. at Nicasio Valley Rd. 1 lane of traffic shut down. No further information available.

OTHER: Reports of a P2V Firefighting plane, crashed 7.4 miles SSW of Big Bear Dam. Supposedly ignited a fire, no survivors expected. Crash was described as in "pieces".

JUST IN: Report of a transformer fire in San Bernardino, location Alto Dr. at Mesa Ct. No further info avail.

[cake_crumb]

One firefighter being treated for 1st and 2nd degree burns in his leg trying to save a home. ....If they said Hemet near Lake Elsinore for Devore, I really messed it up. YEEESH.

[nicmarlo]

Bush policy of clearing fuel in forests etc is a whole mistake...

THESE FORESTS HAVEN'T BEEN CLEARED for YEARS and YEARS because of the ENVIROWackos~!. That's why California is a sea of fire right now. IT'S THE ENVIRO WACKOS' FAULT.

(not yelling at you).

[SCalGal]

It was the LA County fire spokesman -- he said winds are shifting and they are concerned that the fire is making its own winds now and could start burning west if it breaks through the lines at Chatsworth. Just reporting what the LA County Fire Spokesman was saying.

It's been slowly creeping west; I am concerned about it coming South! The smoke is so bad outside that it hurts your throat.

[lainie]

It's truly incredible. I feel so blessed that the one friend I have up in Crestline, due with a baby in two weeks and with three-year-old in tow, made it to a hotel early yesterday and is safely put with her husband. She logged in to tell us last night. It was so sweet of her to go to the trouble. They have no idea the status of their home, but they got out with their lives.

Makes me tear up just to think about her. I told her to get her heinie up here and stay with me when she's ready -- but they don't want to go far. She's clinging to the hope that she can "go home in a few days."

[Letitring]

:)

[Ladypixel]

Ouch. Mind using a smaller font next time, so my eyes don't bleed? :)

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Just as an aside, the moved Monday Night Football game was free. 55,000 in attendance. They didn't have time to print and market tickets.

[PhiKapMom]

This also affects people across the country who are wondering if their loved ones are safe or have their homes. Maybe if he were in the middle of all this he'd see things differently

I find the lack of coverage of the CA fires appalling. They spend more time on a car chase then they are spending on these fires. I cannot believe it -- what is it -- if it isn't happening on the East Coast, it doesn't happen and no one is interested.

[Inspectorette]

From relative safety up here on the Central Coast (a couple of small fires - on the Cuesta Grade (San Luis Obispo on the 101) and Los Alamos) - God Bless You All fellow Californians!! We are praying for you.

[meyer]

Could this be misleading like those stories from Washington DC during the sniper man hunt?

Do Y'all have a "Chief Moose" on the force? He had alterior motives as best as I could tell. If the police leadership in your area has similar motives, then the van story could be misleading.

[PhiKapMom]

The planes were coming out of Hemet!

[hole_n_one]