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Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27
10/27/03 | Myself

Posted on 10/26/2003 9:52:12 PM PST by spectr17

Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS ---------------- Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: fire; firestorm; socalfires
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To: PhiKapMom
I've been watching all the local news channels. On KUSI the reporter in Scripps Ranch made a point of saying he would not step on anyone's burned home saying that this was someone's home and it wouldn't be right. Then on KFMB (channel 8) the reporter there just stepped right onto someone's burned up home to show everyone the teacups that were still recognizable. If that were my home I would be furious. I wonder if that reporter even realizes that she is doing something totally disrespectful.
1,381 posted on 10/27/2003 5:12:50 PM PST by ladyesk
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To: bonesmccoy
"Can Arnold work with the lame duck Davis and get the USAF out?"

USAF C130s have been out for a couple of hours. I watched those on MSNBC too.

1,382 posted on 10/27/2003 5:13:18 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Letitring
We have adjusters set up in motorhomes handing out checks to our insureds to get them started towards recovery. Our agent just left to go pick up and deliver a 10K check to one of our insureds who suffered a total loss.
Mo4Bush
1,384 posted on 10/27/2003 5:13:57 PM PST by mo4bush
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To: PhiKapMom
If what we're hearing now about Davis not calling for the military planes when they were offered is true, this is the greatest scandal of his entire sorry career and he should step down TODAY. What on earth would be the reason NOT to call them in if it might save lives and homes?
1,385 posted on 10/27/2003 5:15:20 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: Stars N Stripes
thanks, stars n stripes. I'm not familiar with the area so its hard to pick out where the fires are exactly in relation to the structures. But I'll take your word for it that it isn't as immediate as the media indicates.
1,386 posted on 10/27/2003 5:15:25 PM PST by meyer
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To: PhiKapMom
"... Been on the Rim of the World drive many times and if the fire goes over the cliff will it burn down the mountainside into the towns below?"

Don't mean to sound like a wiseacre here, but fire burns up.

It's already been burning up for the last couple of days. The mountainside below 'Rim Of The World' is already burnt to the dirt. What we're worried about is the large mountain communities I named earlier on top of the mountain that are heavily-wooded with trees that will go up like matchsticks if the fire gets across the road.

1,387 posted on 10/27/2003 5:15:32 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: nicmarlo
Just got back from a recon trip to Yucaipa area. Road block on 38 at Bryant by CHP. Only residents allowed further up the mountain. Drove south on 38 into Mentone/Redlands area. passed Amethyst St. only thing I saw was a pumper loading up with water at a hydrant. No evidence of fire of any kind in that area. The smoke is bad at the lower elevations. [I am at 3000ft, so above the smoke] I could of course see the fire on the mts above SB to the west just a matter of miles away. Folks...the pics on TV and even the great pics posted here cannot convey the magnitude of this fire here in SB. I have lived in this area for 30 years and have seen my share of brush fires, even had to evac myself once due to a fire, but they were nothing, repeat nothing compared to this. Most fires in this area knocked down in a day maybe two, for this to burn for this long with no near end in sight and the danger to Lake Arrowhead, with resorts, huge expensive homes, schools, whole mountain communities is hard to convey in words. The fire is monsterous. The dead trees are the major problem. Imagine a mountain range covered in pine, fir trees and then imagine 60-70 percent of them dead, but still standing. This goes on for not just acres, but miles and miles. Huge brown patches on the mountain sides. I know the other areas of SoCal are in bad shape, this is just a little info from my neck of the woods..pardon the pun.

Red

1,388 posted on 10/27/2003 5:16:02 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: Trampled by Lambs
Thanks so much for the update! It's a big relief, especially since we can't seem to reach anyone. We're in Scottsdale, Arizona now -- left California in 1996 after 35 years.

Thanks again, and stay safe!

1,389 posted on 10/27/2003 5:16:47 PM PST by IrishRainy
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To: ladyesk
Heads up Calif Washington state is sending you air tankers, and fire engines, when I get the number I will post it.
Local Seattle news I was busy and did not get the number, but I think they said 5 fire engines, and did not hear the number of air tankers
1,390 posted on 10/27/2003 5:16:57 PM PST by calawah98
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To: Conservative4Ever
The dead trees are the major problem. Imagine a mountain range covered in pine, fir trees and then imagine 60-70 percent of them dead, but still standing.

The beetles have been working over the drougt-weakened trees, killing them. It's just been a disaster waiting to happen.

1,392 posted on 10/27/2003 5:18:09 PM PST by .38sw
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To: mo4bush
God love your heart.
1,393 posted on 10/27/2003 5:18:09 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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To: Letitring
I was just able to get in touch with some friends from Scripps Ranch.
They stayed over night at a hotel and they are trying to get back in now to see if their house is there. I know they just put on a new roof but their street was one that was devasted so I don't know if a new roof would be enough to save their house.
1,394 posted on 10/27/2003 5:18:35 PM PST by ladyesk
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To: GOPrincess
I am with you. I was shocked when KFI started reporting that Arnold had been out and about today and then saw the picture of Maria in San Bernardino. I have had KFI on all day and first I heard it was when I reported the fact.

Then we find out that Doofus and his people never requested the AF in Colorado to provide help with their planes even though Cong Hunter gave them the info yesterday and the planes could have been used today.

What is wrong with the media? This to me makes me wonder about the entire media and feeding us what they want us to hear. I heard Davis over and over again today!
1,395 posted on 10/27/2003 5:18:42 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: sf4dubya
I heard them taking about Crestline, however the reporters probably lumped all the small communities under the same name since their all pretty ignorant of the area. I have friends in Crestline and relatives in Running Springs. But they all evacuated yesterday and don't no anymore than the rest of us flatlanders. :(
1,396 posted on 10/27/2003 5:18:50 PM PST by Stars N Stripes (He's crying? There's no crying in Glory Holing! Right you are Ken. Let's go to our MXC Impact Replay)
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To: sf4dubya
I heard them taking about Crestline, however the reporters probably lumped all the small communities under the same name since their all pretty ignorant of the area. I have friends in Crestline and relatives in Running Springs. But they all evacuated yesterday and don't no anymore than the rest of us flatlanders. :(
1,397 posted on 10/27/2003 5:18:54 PM PST by Stars N Stripes (He's crying? There's no crying in Glory Holing! Right you are Ken. Let's go to our MXC Impact Replay)
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To: hole_n_one
Earlier, Paul Moyer said that Maria likes her new role and has "decided she's not going back to work for awhile"

I thought NBC gave her the heave-ho?
1,398 posted on 10/27/2003 5:19:22 PM PST by lainie
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To: ladyesk
I wonder if that reporter even realizes that she is doing something totally disrespectful.

I'm sure she does. But does she care?

1,399 posted on 10/27/2003 5:19:28 PM PST by street_justice
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To: lainie
"What local leaders were they"

I don't remember. I only know it was on MSNBC, and the cll letters were an NBC affiliate in CA. I was listening more than watching.

Could you please follow FR etiquette and jog the memory of the poster to whom you are replying with the relevant quote? It doesn't have to be italics, though those are preferred. I've had very little sleep the past two weeks. I'm very tired and it's hard to figure out WHAT you are referring to without a little help.

1,400 posted on 10/27/2003 5:19:49 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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