Oh...my...Argentina! Argentina!!
Posted on 10/26/2003 9:09:04 PM PST by Stultis
"Naked" Miss Afghanistan slammed "We condemn Vida Samadzai, she is not representing Afghanistan's women, and this is not women's freedom." Surabi said according to Afghan culture women should not demonstrate their worth using their "beauty or bodies" but by their skills and knowledge. "In the name of women's freedom, what this Afghan girl has done is not freedom but is lascivious," the minister said. The 25-year-old Afghan contestant, who lives in the United States, is the first Afghan woman in 30 years to participate in the Miss World international beauty contest being held in the Philippines capital this week. The dark-haired, black-eyed Samadzai, apparently from a Pashtun tribe, was born and raised in Afghanistan but left for the United States in 1996 to escape the extremist Taliban regime which forced women to cover themselves from head to toe. Under the harsh regime women were not allowed to work outside their homes or go out without a close relative beside them. After the fall of the militia in 2001, an increasing number of women left the burqa, or veil, at home and some took jobs. The only other Miss Afghanistan was Zohra Daoud, who joined the Miss Universe contest in 1972.
AFP
27oct03
PRESIDENT Hamid Karzai's minister for women's affairs yesterday condemned Miss Afghanistan, as Vida Samadzai became the country's first woman in the post-Taliban era to appear in a bikini during a beauty contest in Manila.
"Appearing naked before a camera or television is not women's freedom but in my opinion is to entertain men," Minister Habiba Surabi said.
This is whole other topic than that initially argumented, but I have seen no "evidence" for this contention. Rumors of "white slavery" have long abounded (and were widespread belief in 19th century), but is this more common than Chinese "slaves" in America or Albanian and Moldovan slaves in Italy or Israel? In part of Africa (Mauritania) this is certainly case, but I see no evidence in "mainstream" Arab Muslim countries.
You people put me in amusing position defending Arabs, but I do not mind. Legitimate criticism is better than libels.
You really don't want to get into a comparison of Jesus vs mohammed.
Jesus was a good and holy man. He fulfilled the law perfectly. He did not lie, cheat, or steal (that is, He did not sin). All Christians are followers of Jesus. Therefore all Christians try to be like Jesus.
Jesus left behind a group of followers who have changed the world into a better place, and who continue to do so.
Mohammed on the other hand was a low-life dictator who lied, cheated, stole and raped his way to power. Taking every advantage of his allies, his followers and anyone else stupid enough to believe him.
Mohammed left behind a group of followers whose main achievement is terror and mass murder and holding people in the stone age.
No I don't, since I have no use for either. My point was to illustrate demented attempt at logical thinking on your part. Not every aspect of Jesus life is to be emulated (like being carpenter) just as not every aspect of Mohammed life is to be emulated by those devout. If you say otherwise, you are being silly.
Therefore all Christians try to be like Jesus.
Therefore all Christians should be carpenters? I do not understand. You look for Jesus' teachings as example, but Mohammed's practice. Seems like double standard to this third party.
Oh...my...Argentina! Argentina!!
Pitter-patter goes my heart...
For the lovely Miss Argentina.
Except of course when they strap 50 lbs of TNT to their bosoms...
"Appearing naked before a camera or television is not women's freedom but in my opinion is to entertain men," Minister Habiba Surabi said.
"We condemn Vida Samadzai, she is not representing Afghanistan's women, and this is not women's freedom."
Surabi said according to Afghan culture women should not demonstrate their worth using their "beauty or bodies" but by their skills and knowledge.
"In the name of women's freedom, what this Afghan girl has done is not freedom but is lascivious," the minister said.
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Outside of the technical issue that she is not naked, I'm finding it hard to find something in these statements I strongly disagree with. Calling her lascivious is a bit over the top though.
Actually we look both to Jesus' teachings and to his practice. He was flawless in both. He was a carpenter, he earned His own living. That is something to be followed.
Also, my understanding of the koran and the rest of the islamic writings is that every aspect of mohammed's life was to be emulated.
And this is as metaphoric in Islam as is in Christianty. You are not expected to live exactly like Mohammed just as not all Christian is expected to live exactly like Jesus by being carpenter and living in desert and dying as martyr and whatnot. You cannot impose flexibility in analysis of your own religion while holder stricter scruples to others.
While I personally think that a Miss Afghanistan is perfectly fine, it's not like we want to be *ostracizing* Muslims. Yes, it is a political religion. Yes, it is conductive to violent behavior. But let's tackle the problem as tastefully as we can; let's not give extremist Arabs a reason to hate us even more than they do.
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