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$85,000 salaries: Teaching pays off
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | October 26, 2003 | D. AILEEN DODD

Posted on 10/26/2003 1:59:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The image of the underpaid schoolteacher who sacrifices life's riches for the sake of children still fits many educators but not all.

Thanks in part to a decade of healthy pay raises and a system of incentives that rewards longevity and postgraduate studies, 1,943, or almost 2 percent, of Georgia's public school educators were paid $85,000 or more last year, according to salary data from the state Department of Education. Among that group, 81 principals had annual salaries that topped $100,000.

"Georgia's average teacher pay rose more than 49 percent over the last 10 years, greatly outpacing national or regional pay rates," said Kathy Cox, state superintendent. "In fact, we rank first among states in the Southeast in terms of teacher salaries."

Indeed, Georgia's average salary of $43,933 in the 2001-02 school year was higher than 11 other Southeastern states and ranked 19th nationally, according to a survey by the national teachers union, the American Federation of Teachers. National comparisons from last school year -- when Georgia's average rose to $45,414 -- are not available.

Lifting Georgia's average were educators such as Judy Henry, who as a third-grade teacher in Paulding County last year earned $90,847.

Henry typifies how teacher salaries rise to the top levels. After beginning her career in Tennessee in 1977, she went on to earn a master's and a doctorate.

To move her pay along, she taught after-school and extended-year classes and received her certification in gifted education.

"If there is any way to make some extra money, volunteer to do it," said Henry, who teaches gifted elementary students. "You have just got to keep looking at the pay schedule. [The top] should be your goal."

Like Henry, most of Georgia's highest-paid teachers receive supplements for taking on responsibilities like coaching, after-school tutoring or summer school teaching. Most of them have postgraduate degrees and more than 20 years' experience.

In Cobb County, teachers who sponsor academic activities can earn from $570 to $2,640 extra per year. Music directors are paid an additional $1,000 to $6,820. Supplements for coaches range from $1,000 to $8,800. Other counties have comparable systems.

For Danny Cronic, whose $90,895 salary made him the highest-paid classroom teacher in the state last year, serving as head football coach of East Coweta High helped push him into the ranks of the top earners.

Cronic, who teaches physical education, received a doctorate from Middle Tennessee State University in 1985.

"All I have ever done is just coach and teach," said Cronic, 57, who is exploring retiring after this school year. "The doctorate came about because I had a principal who gave me some advice. He said if I was going to be in education long-term, I needed to get as much education as I could."

Such decisions have helped move some educators to the top stratum of earners. Households with incomes of more than $75,000 fall into the top one-fourth of all wage earners, according to the Census Bureau.

"I don't think anyone needs to be ashamed of saying they want to be a teacher and not be poor," said Janet Bass, spokeswoman for the Washington-based American Federation of Teachers. "If a teacher has a number of years of experience, a master's degree or a Ph.D., that teacher should be well paid. Just like in any profession, the more credentials you have, the more you are worth to the company, and in this case the more you are worth to the student."

About two-thirds of the teachers in the state have 15 or fewer years' experience, and the state salary schedule for that group is $27,650 to $58,103. The schedule does not reflect supplements.

"By law, a system must pay minimally the state salary schedule," said Bobby Stephens, a senior associate with Metropolitan Regional Educational Service Agency, a consortium of school systems in the Atlanta region. "Gwinnett, DeKalb and others pay a lot more than the state salary schedules."

DeKalb County paid beginning teachers with a bachelor's degree $36,900 last year, the highest starting pay in the metro area, according to Metro RESA.

'A rare exception to the rule'

Most educators leave the profession well before they reach top pay levels, according to the teachers federation.

"We probably have a [salary] schedule in Georgia that pays not enough at the front end and maybe appropriately at the opposite end, but it takes a long time and additional degrees to get there," said Stephens, who used to be director of human resources for DeKalb County Schools. "During that time, a lot of folks drop out. The dropout rate is really high in the first five years. . . . Teachers in the $80,000 to $90,000 pay range are a rare exception to the rule."

Cobb County choral teacher Cheryl DeMenna agrees. "It is impossible for just a regular teacher to make that kind of money. The average teacher just comes in to teach from 8 to 3:30," she said.

DeMenna, who earns $81,590, sometimes works 12-hour days, juggling chorus rehearsals and extended-day classes.

"I don't gripe about the money I make, be it a lot or a little, but [without supplements] I would make substantially less," she said. "If you are coaching or doing extracurricular stuff, you are there before school, after school, on weekends. [You] earn every dime of what [you] make."

The state's highest-paid principal, Bobby Rorie, suggests that the $111,000 he was paid last school year is commensurate with the hard work of being an administrator and the preparation required to become one.

"I don't think teaching is lucrative because of the responsibility that is included in the job," said Rorie, who works in the Clayton County school system. "First of all, you borrow lots of money to get your college education, and then you have to borrow more to get your master's and doctorate.

"Then, when you are finally making a decent salary, you also have accumulated a large debt . . . and at the same time you have got a house, a car and other things you are responsible for as well."

Because of Georgia's pay freeze for educators this school year, Rorie and his wife, Vera, an assistant dean at Emory University, have cut back on spending.

While some are feeling the pinch of a pay freeze, principals at a number of Gwinnett County schools are watching their income grow because of a system that ties pay to enrollment. The school system rewards principals with $7.01 for every student projected to enroll. Gwinnett's is the largest school system in the state -- with almost 129,000 students and 1,530 trailer classrooms -- and its growth continues to outpace that of other counties.

Last school year, the county's highest-paid principal, Glenn McFall of Suwanee's Collins Hill High, received a supplement of $29,021 for enrollment. The extra money accounted for about 27 percent of his $109,160 salary.

Enrollment supplements

If head counts in September show a school has exceeded enrollment projections, the per pupil pay is adjusted upward. In a check of major school districts in the metro area, Gwinnett's school system was the only one paying its principals per pupil.

"The enrollment supplement allows the school system to appropriately compensate principals for the number of students they serve, and the responsibilities and challenges that come with the day-to-day operation of serving those students," said Sloan Roach, spokeswoman for Gwinnett County Schools.

But when enrollment forecasts exceed the number of students who attend a school, the principal is paid based on the forecast.

The administrator is still paid $7.01 per student as if the projections had been met and the students had come to school.

More than 50 Gwinnett principals this school year were slated to be paid for students who were not in their school, according to the September enrollment count.

Principals take the lead

Principals in DeKalb County sometimes get salary bumps to push them above the highest-paid teachers in their schools.

The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools requires principals to be the highest-paid employees on their campus. DeKalb school officials estimated that this year 20 principals benefited from the standard.

"Like in industry or anywhere else, if you have a CEO or a person in charge, that person is usually the highest-paid person on staff," said Mont Bush, director of accreditation services for SACS' secondary and middle school commission in Decatur. "He or she is in a leadership role.

"The difficult part of the standard is where you have young administrators coming on board. Schools usually have three to four years to set up a process of reaching that goal in the event that they are hiring a young administrator."

But sometimes young principals get top dollar without the help of a supplement.

Morcease Beasley, 33, has eight years' experience and earns $94,848 as principal of DeKalb's Stephenson High School.

Not many years ago, such salaries were unheard of.

In 1985, the average teacher's salary in Georgia was $20,606, about $3,000 less than the national average. At the time, the teachers federation ranked Georgia's pay 34th in the nation.

That same year, Jane Stegall -- now one of the state's top 10 highest-paid principals -- was settling into her second year as a department chair at Shiloh High School in Gwinnett County. The move had given her more responsibility and a salary of $27,068.

Stegall had begun her career in 1973 in DeKalb County Schools making about $9,000 a year.

"I made ends meet," she said. "I'm just not the kind of person who worries about the almighty dollar."

But by 1991, with Gov. Zell Miller in office, teachers began to see aggressive state efforts to raise their salary. Miller, who was governor from 1991 to 1999, made improving teacher salaries a priority, pushing through annual raises of 6 percent during his second term.

Miller also backed 5 percent bonuses for teachers who earned the National Board for Professional Teaching Standards certification, the highest professional teaching credential. At the time, only a handful of teachers in Georgia and fewer than 100 nationally had earned the elite certification.

Right place, right time

By 1995 Georgia had moved up to 30th in the state ranking of teacher pay, and Stegall's salary was rising with the state tide. A promotion to assistant principal at Shiloh High also helped boost her paycheck. In a decade, her salary had more than doubled to $56,648.

In 2000, under the administration of Gov. Roy Barnes, Georgia's teacher pay jumped to 19th in the nation. Teachers averaged $41,122, just $700 below the national average.

By that time, Stegall had earned her doctorate and become assistant principal of Brookwood High, making $74,840. Now, as principal, she makes $108,433.

"I was in the right place at the right time," Stegall said. "I am a believer that there are some people who are lucky enough to find their calling in life. I was meant to be in education."

Robert Burke, principal of Fulton's Chattahoochee High School, who was paid $110,333 last year, has also been at both ends of the salary spectrum.

"When I was a teacher trying to support a family, I had to work three jobs. I taught adults at night. I also ran a youth center," he said.

Although lawmakers did not approve teacher raises this year, Superintendent Cox said the state would continue to find ways to reward teachers.

"The trend over the last decade demonstrates that Georgia has put teachers on the forefront of our efforts to improve education," Cox said, "and when the budget situation improves, you can rest assured that we will continue that trend."

National test scores have not correlated with rising pay. Despite ranking 19th in teacher pay, Georgia is 50th in SAT scores.

"It is so hard to evaluate good teaching -- you can't just do it on test scores alone," Stephens said. "It is very difficult to put a finger on performance and associate salary with it."

Just the possibility of a higher salary may inspire more students to pursue teaching careers and more teachers to become principals, said Tim Callahan, spokesman for the Professional Association of Georgia Educators, which has 57,000 members.

"There was a time when educators' salaries were pitiful," Callahan said.


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To: Flyer; Cincinatus' Wife
"A P.E. teacher and coach earning $90,000 a year, retiring at 57. . . we're gonna go broke"

East Coweta is a perennial visitor to the state football playoffs (Falcons linebacker Keith Brooking went there). High schools here in Georgia (I'm sure it's the same in Texas) that emphasis the football programs are willing to shell out the money for quality coaches. Coach Chronic fits that description.

I've heard no calls from the Coweta county residents I know from him to take a pay cut.

21 posted on 10/26/2003 3:14:56 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Rest in peace FReeperette LBGA.....You will be very sorely missed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For Danny Cronic, whose $90,895 salary made him the highest-paid classroom teacher in the state last year, serving as head football coach of East Coweta High helped push him into the ranks of the top earners.
Cronic, who teaches physical education, received a doctorate from Middle Tennessee State University in 1985.

I'm reminded of the old saying:

Those who can't do, teach.
Those who can't teach, teach Gym.

22 posted on 10/26/2003 3:16:50 AM PST by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Georgia must have the finest schools with the best educated children in the nation if teacher salaries are truly an indicator.
23 posted on 10/26/2003 3:18:58 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott; All
"persistently dangerous" - School-safety rankings - or just black marks?***But national statistics of school crime, say experts, seem to indicate that more schools should qualify for the classification. In 2000, 72 of every 1,000 students ages 12 through 18 reported being victims of crimes at school. The average far exceeds most states' requirements for a dangerous school.

At the heart of the discrepancy may well be a reluctance on the part of educators to report campus crime fully. A survey by the National Association of School Resource Officers found that 89 percent of school police believe crime is already underreported. "It's the scarlet letter in education today," says Mr. Trump. "Administrators have said to me privately that they would rather be academically failing than be a dangerous school." ***

3 F's, they're out: Edison sees teacher shake-up *** While the district does not have access to the standardized test scores of individual teachers' students, it can review results by subject and grade, she said. Since reading scores fell at Edison -- only 3 percent of freshmen and 4 percent of seniors were classified at least proficient in 2003 -- they decided to shake up the English department. ***

More students avoid public schools as families choose to teach at home***Home-school graduate Mallika Bucher, 19, completed some of her core courses at Broward Community College and will enter Miami-Dade Community College this month to train as a nurse/midwife. She has positive memories of her home-school experience.

She was president of the 4-H Club, a camp counselor for her church's sleep-away camp, a member of the Parent Support Group's prom committee. She even had enough free time to work as a full-time supervisor in a Plantation health food store.

''Home-school helps children have self-discipline,'' she said. ``They're respectful to adults, and they get along with children of all ages. It certainly did not take me away from anything socially, and it was such a positive experience that I want to do this with my children.''***

NEA challenged on political outlays - Teacher's union fields "army of campaign workers"

24 posted on 10/26/2003 3:22:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I remember 10 years ago meeting a teacher making over 75K for teaching kindergarten. I wonder if they set the cutoff at 60K, what percentage of teachers are making that kind of salary?
25 posted on 10/26/2003 3:23:19 AM PST by JohnSmithee
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To: Pedantic_Lady
"By the way, I disagree that you get a better education at private schools. We had some kids transfer in to my high school from private schools and god, were they ever stupid."

I went to a private school my final year of high school. It was a mixture of the children of the rich, gifted students, or those being offloaded by their parents. It really was a superior place to get an education.
26 posted on 10/26/2003 3:28:59 AM PST by JohnSmithee
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To: martin_fierro
"Those who can't do, teach."

"Those who can't teach, teach Gym."

And take the football team to the playoffs every year in a state that has produced Hines Ward, Richard Seymour, Robert Edwards, Champ Bailey, Matt Stinchcombe, and several other NFL players I can't remember at this early hour.

See post #13.

27 posted on 10/26/2003 3:31:58 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Rest in peace FReeperette LBGA.....You will be very sorely missed.)
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To: martin_fierro
Ooops. Dang fog of early morning pre-coffee saturation.

I meant see post 21.

28 posted on 10/26/2003 3:33:35 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Rest in peace FReeperette LBGA.....You will be very sorely missed.)
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To: Flyer
DeMenna, who earns $81,590, sometimes works 12-hour days, juggling chorus rehearsals and extended-day classes . . .

I work in private industry, have a Master's Degree, 14 years experience abroad, speak a second language, sometimes works 12 and 14 hour days, have problems even taking a couple of days off (not to mention a whole summer), can't even crack $50K in a higher cost of living state and have a job that could be gone tomorrow for any reason or no reason. And I pay a substantial part of my lesser income to subsidize these type of lifestyles.

29 posted on 10/26/2003 3:38:06 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"National test scores have not correlated with rising pay. Despite ranking 19th in teacher pay, Georgia is 50th in SAT scores."

This pretty much says it all.

30 posted on 10/26/2003 3:40:28 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: pt17
I immediately tripled my salary and reduced my workday from 12 hours to 9.

What could you possibly have been doing for 12 hours a day?

31 posted on 10/26/2003 3:41:28 AM PST by laredo44
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Teaching doesn't pay well because almost anyone can acquire the "skills" to do it (saith the ex-teacher). I can teach. My sister can (and does) teach. My mother used to teach. None of us can sink a three-pointer with Yao Ming glaring down at us, or run a multinational corporation.
32 posted on 10/26/2003 3:44:26 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Are these $85K teachers TEACHING teachers, or are they actually administrative personnel like principals?

Most likely the bulk of them are guidance counselors or department heads who spend little time in a classroom except when "observing" the peons who actually dispense the lessons.

33 posted on 10/26/2003 3:45:36 AM PST by laredo44
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To: Pedantic_Lady
I absolutely do NOT agree that public schools are extremely "corrupt." How are they corrupt?

*****

By asking this question you truly don't understand the administrative monster that is your school system. I will put my reply in the form of questions.

Do you believe that when a new school goes up in your district that the contractor was lowest bidder and most qualified?

Do you believe that items purchased (computers, software, supplies, air conditioners, etc...) by your school system are the the best deal and that administrators provided a fair opportunity for others to bid against their established suppliers?

Do you believe that either these suppliers or contractors mentioned above don't have political connections?

Do you believe that there is not a 'Good Ole Boy' hiring network in you school system that skirts the law?

Do you believe that when a teacher with internal school system political connections nears retirement, he does not recieve a cushy job?

Do you believe that no jobs are handed out due to national or local politics?

Do you believe that no external contracts (e.g. new teacher learning centers that are utterly useless) are handed out due to national or local politics?

If you answer yes to any of the questions above it would behoove you to open your eyes. The school systems across America reap with corruption. They tolerate business practices that are criminal.



34 posted on 10/26/2003 3:46:48 AM PST by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: Vigilanteman
sometimes works 12 and 14 hour days, have problems even taking a couple of days off

But you don't have to deal with those grueling chorus rehearsals. Count your lucky stars.

35 posted on 10/26/2003 3:48:02 AM PST by Flyer (You get more with a smile, a kind word and a gun than with a smile and a kind word)
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To: tkathy
Maybe semi-pro sports hysteria should be taken out of all public schools

Or maybe let businesses in the community pony up and sponsor the sports teams and coaches if they have to have them.

36 posted on 10/26/2003 3:51:06 AM PST by Flyer (You get more with a smile, a kind word and a gun than with a smile and a kind word)
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To: laredo44
What could you possibly have been doing for 12 hours a day

Working with students after class, grading papers, running the math club, running the model rocket club, lesson planning, maintaining the ASRs that were hooked into the GE/Dartmouth timesharing network, devising math experiments (e.g., demonstrating time series using gravity experiments), etc. etc. etc. Enough or do you want more?
37 posted on 10/26/2003 3:55:15 AM PST by pt17
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To: Pedantic_Lady
I was offered a teaching job by the DISD in 1997; if I had taught French, I would have earned $28,000 a year.

What were your qualifications for the 28K? What other options were available for you outside teaching and what were they paying? Wonder what a 2nd Lieutenant in the Army was making back then?

38 posted on 10/26/2003 3:56:14 AM PST by laredo44
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To: pt17
Working with students after class, grading papers, running the math club, running the model rocket club, lesson planning, maintaining the ASRs that were hooked into the GE/Dartmouth timesharing network, devising math experiments (e.g., demonstrating time series using gravity experiments), etc. etc. etc. Enough or do you want more?

What I'd like is a breakdown of a typical work week. What was the 60 hours composed of? How much time in class, how much grading papers, etc.

39 posted on 10/26/2003 4:07:26 AM PST by laredo44
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To: BushCountry
You think they are improving? I beg to differ.. I work with about 10 districts in my area and most kids can't read, spell or do math. The problem is that all the teachers come out of cookie cutter universities. The educational philosophy is all the same. All buy into OBE.
40 posted on 10/26/2003 4:19:00 AM PST by Zipporah
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