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$85,000 salaries: Teaching pays off
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | October 26, 2003 | D. AILEEN DODD

Posted on 10/26/2003 1:59:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The image of the underpaid schoolteacher who sacrifices life's riches for the sake of children still fits many educators but not all.

Thanks in part to a decade of healthy pay raises and a system of incentives that rewards longevity and postgraduate studies, 1,943, or almost 2 percent, of Georgia's public school educators were paid $85,000 or more last year, according to salary data from the state Department of Education. Among that group, 81 principals had annual salaries that topped $100,000.

"Georgia's average teacher pay rose more than 49 percent over the last 10 years, greatly outpacing national or regional pay rates," said Kathy Cox, state superintendent. "In fact, we rank first among states in the Southeast in terms of teacher salaries."

Indeed, Georgia's average salary of $43,933 in the 2001-02 school year was higher than 11 other Southeastern states and ranked 19th nationally, according to a survey by the national teachers union, the American Federation of Teachers. National comparisons from last school year -- when Georgia's average rose to $45,414 -- are not available.

Lifting Georgia's average were educators such as Judy Henry, who as a third-grade teacher in Paulding County last year earned $90,847.

Henry typifies how teacher salaries rise to the top levels. After beginning her career in Tennessee in 1977, she went on to earn a master's and a doctorate.

To move her pay along, she taught after-school and extended-year classes and received her certification in gifted education.

"If there is any way to make some extra money, volunteer to do it," said Henry, who teaches gifted elementary students. "You have just got to keep looking at the pay schedule. [The top] should be your goal."

Like Henry, most of Georgia's highest-paid teachers receive supplements for taking on responsibilities like coaching, after-school tutoring or summer school teaching. Most of them have postgraduate degrees and more than 20 years' experience.

In Cobb County, teachers who sponsor academic activities can earn from $570 to $2,640 extra per year. Music directors are paid an additional $1,000 to $6,820. Supplements for coaches range from $1,000 to $8,800. Other counties have comparable systems.

For Danny Cronic, whose $90,895 salary made him the highest-paid classroom teacher in the state last year, serving as head football coach of East Coweta High helped push him into the ranks of the top earners.

Cronic, who teaches physical education, received a doctorate from Middle Tennessee State University in 1985.

"All I have ever done is just coach and teach," said Cronic, 57, who is exploring retiring after this school year. "The doctorate came about because I had a principal who gave me some advice. He said if I was going to be in education long-term, I needed to get as much education as I could."

Such decisions have helped move some educators to the top stratum of earners. Households with incomes of more than $75,000 fall into the top one-fourth of all wage earners, according to the Census Bureau.

"I don't think anyone needs to be ashamed of saying they want to be a teacher and not be poor," said Janet Bass, spokeswoman for the Washington-based American Federation of Teachers. "If a teacher has a number of years of experience, a master's degree or a Ph.D., that teacher should be well paid. Just like in any profession, the more credentials you have, the more you are worth to the company, and in this case the more you are worth to the student."

About two-thirds of the teachers in the state have 15 or fewer years' experience, and the state salary schedule for that group is $27,650 to $58,103. The schedule does not reflect supplements.

"By law, a system must pay minimally the state salary schedule," said Bobby Stephens, a senior associate with Metropolitan Regional Educational Service Agency, a consortium of school systems in the Atlanta region. "Gwinnett, DeKalb and others pay a lot more than the state salary schedules."

DeKalb County paid beginning teachers with a bachelor's degree $36,900 last year, the highest starting pay in the metro area, according to Metro RESA.

'A rare exception to the rule'

Most educators leave the profession well before they reach top pay levels, according to the teachers federation.

"We probably have a [salary] schedule in Georgia that pays not enough at the front end and maybe appropriately at the opposite end, but it takes a long time and additional degrees to get there," said Stephens, who used to be director of human resources for DeKalb County Schools. "During that time, a lot of folks drop out. The dropout rate is really high in the first five years. . . . Teachers in the $80,000 to $90,000 pay range are a rare exception to the rule."

Cobb County choral teacher Cheryl DeMenna agrees. "It is impossible for just a regular teacher to make that kind of money. The average teacher just comes in to teach from 8 to 3:30," she said.

DeMenna, who earns $81,590, sometimes works 12-hour days, juggling chorus rehearsals and extended-day classes.

"I don't gripe about the money I make, be it a lot or a little, but [without supplements] I would make substantially less," she said. "If you are coaching or doing extracurricular stuff, you are there before school, after school, on weekends. [You] earn every dime of what [you] make."

The state's highest-paid principal, Bobby Rorie, suggests that the $111,000 he was paid last school year is commensurate with the hard work of being an administrator and the preparation required to become one.

"I don't think teaching is lucrative because of the responsibility that is included in the job," said Rorie, who works in the Clayton County school system. "First of all, you borrow lots of money to get your college education, and then you have to borrow more to get your master's and doctorate.

"Then, when you are finally making a decent salary, you also have accumulated a large debt . . . and at the same time you have got a house, a car and other things you are responsible for as well."

Because of Georgia's pay freeze for educators this school year, Rorie and his wife, Vera, an assistant dean at Emory University, have cut back on spending.

While some are feeling the pinch of a pay freeze, principals at a number of Gwinnett County schools are watching their income grow because of a system that ties pay to enrollment. The school system rewards principals with $7.01 for every student projected to enroll. Gwinnett's is the largest school system in the state -- with almost 129,000 students and 1,530 trailer classrooms -- and its growth continues to outpace that of other counties.

Last school year, the county's highest-paid principal, Glenn McFall of Suwanee's Collins Hill High, received a supplement of $29,021 for enrollment. The extra money accounted for about 27 percent of his $109,160 salary.

Enrollment supplements

If head counts in September show a school has exceeded enrollment projections, the per pupil pay is adjusted upward. In a check of major school districts in the metro area, Gwinnett's school system was the only one paying its principals per pupil.

"The enrollment supplement allows the school system to appropriately compensate principals for the number of students they serve, and the responsibilities and challenges that come with the day-to-day operation of serving those students," said Sloan Roach, spokeswoman for Gwinnett County Schools.

But when enrollment forecasts exceed the number of students who attend a school, the principal is paid based on the forecast.

The administrator is still paid $7.01 per student as if the projections had been met and the students had come to school.

More than 50 Gwinnett principals this school year were slated to be paid for students who were not in their school, according to the September enrollment count.

Principals take the lead

Principals in DeKalb County sometimes get salary bumps to push them above the highest-paid teachers in their schools.

The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools requires principals to be the highest-paid employees on their campus. DeKalb school officials estimated that this year 20 principals benefited from the standard.

"Like in industry or anywhere else, if you have a CEO or a person in charge, that person is usually the highest-paid person on staff," said Mont Bush, director of accreditation services for SACS' secondary and middle school commission in Decatur. "He or she is in a leadership role.

"The difficult part of the standard is where you have young administrators coming on board. Schools usually have three to four years to set up a process of reaching that goal in the event that they are hiring a young administrator."

But sometimes young principals get top dollar without the help of a supplement.

Morcease Beasley, 33, has eight years' experience and earns $94,848 as principal of DeKalb's Stephenson High School.

Not many years ago, such salaries were unheard of.

In 1985, the average teacher's salary in Georgia was $20,606, about $3,000 less than the national average. At the time, the teachers federation ranked Georgia's pay 34th in the nation.

That same year, Jane Stegall -- now one of the state's top 10 highest-paid principals -- was settling into her second year as a department chair at Shiloh High School in Gwinnett County. The move had given her more responsibility and a salary of $27,068.

Stegall had begun her career in 1973 in DeKalb County Schools making about $9,000 a year.

"I made ends meet," she said. "I'm just not the kind of person who worries about the almighty dollar."

But by 1991, with Gov. Zell Miller in office, teachers began to see aggressive state efforts to raise their salary. Miller, who was governor from 1991 to 1999, made improving teacher salaries a priority, pushing through annual raises of 6 percent during his second term.

Miller also backed 5 percent bonuses for teachers who earned the National Board for Professional Teaching Standards certification, the highest professional teaching credential. At the time, only a handful of teachers in Georgia and fewer than 100 nationally had earned the elite certification.

Right place, right time

By 1995 Georgia had moved up to 30th in the state ranking of teacher pay, and Stegall's salary was rising with the state tide. A promotion to assistant principal at Shiloh High also helped boost her paycheck. In a decade, her salary had more than doubled to $56,648.

In 2000, under the administration of Gov. Roy Barnes, Georgia's teacher pay jumped to 19th in the nation. Teachers averaged $41,122, just $700 below the national average.

By that time, Stegall had earned her doctorate and become assistant principal of Brookwood High, making $74,840. Now, as principal, she makes $108,433.

"I was in the right place at the right time," Stegall said. "I am a believer that there are some people who are lucky enough to find their calling in life. I was meant to be in education."

Robert Burke, principal of Fulton's Chattahoochee High School, who was paid $110,333 last year, has also been at both ends of the salary spectrum.

"When I was a teacher trying to support a family, I had to work three jobs. I taught adults at night. I also ran a youth center," he said.

Although lawmakers did not approve teacher raises this year, Superintendent Cox said the state would continue to find ways to reward teachers.

"The trend over the last decade demonstrates that Georgia has put teachers on the forefront of our efforts to improve education," Cox said, "and when the budget situation improves, you can rest assured that we will continue that trend."

National test scores have not correlated with rising pay. Despite ranking 19th in teacher pay, Georgia is 50th in SAT scores.

"It is so hard to evaluate good teaching -- you can't just do it on test scores alone," Stephens said. "It is very difficult to put a finger on performance and associate salary with it."

Just the possibility of a higher salary may inspire more students to pursue teaching careers and more teachers to become principals, said Tim Callahan, spokesman for the Professional Association of Georgia Educators, which has 57,000 members.

"There was a time when educators' salaries were pitiful," Callahan said.


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In 2000, under the administration of Gov. Roy Barnes, Georgia's teacher pay jumped to 19th in the nation. Teachers averaged $41,122, just $700 below the national average. .....……..National test scores have not correlated with rising pay. Despite ranking 19th in teacher pay, Georgia is 50th in SAT scores.

A person with a degee in education is worthless to students.

"There was a time when educators' salaries were pitiful," Callahan said.

And there was a time when high school graduates were educated.

1 posted on 10/26/2003 1:59:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Are these $85K teachers TEACHING teachers, or are they actually administrative personnel like principals?
2 posted on 10/26/2003 1:10:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I believe they mean classroom instrutors.

But I know what you mean. Check out this story also in the AJC.

October 26, 2003 - Chief of Fulton schools explains exit [Full Text] Amid questions from Fulton County parents Friday, former Superintendent John Haro insisted he abruptly quit at midweek because he missed his family in Minnesota.

He said he especially missed his son, who is a high school senior. "I just couldn't miss his senior year," Haro said in a telephone interview. "Certainly, we thought we could do it; it was just too hard."

The board emerged from a closed-door executive session Thursday night and voted unanimously with no discussion to accept Haro's resignation, feuling speculation that he had fallen out of favor with the board over personnel and other matters.

Haro was not at the meeting; he was in Minnesota. His tenure lasted less than five months.

The Fulton school district spent almost $70,000 on the search that brought Haro to Fulton in June. Haro declared Fulton "one of the country's great school districts," and board members introduced him with great fanfare.

He drew an annual salary of $185,000 as well as perks such as a $700-per-month car allowance and an additional $750 per month for "routine expenses" he did not have to document.

Laura Stowell, whose children attend Woodland Elementary Charter School and Sandy Springs Middle School, said she was disappointed and surprised that Haro quit.

"He didn't come across as a flighty doofus," she said. "He came across as someone who was very serious and professional. It had to be something significant to make him jump."

Some parents pointed to two recent promotions of African-American principals in south Fulton to assistant superintendent posts. The board approved the hires, recommended by Haro, on split votes.

Board member Zenda Bowie, who lives in south Fulton, said she could not comment on the specifics of Haro's departure because of legal issues. She acknowledged that Haro's personnel appointments attracted attention from south Fulton residents who have long complained they are not as well represented in top administrative posts as north Fulton. "Some people have that opinion," she said.

Haro said Friday he could understand parents' frustration over his resignation. He said board reaction to his personnel recommendations was not a factor.

Jennifer Klein, whose children attend Heards Ferry Elementary and Riverwood High schools, expressed disappointment that Haro's tenure was short-lived. "Sometimes, you just can't know," she said. "He was delightful and had what we needed. His focus was on the whole county, which is what everyone wants."

Rosaland Thomas, a south Fulton parent whose daughter attends Westlake High School, said she was glad to see Haro go. "We're trying to get a new high school built," she said, adding that Haro did not attend either of two meetings parents held to discuss their wishes. "We have not had a chance to be heard."

The board agreed to pay Haro up to $15,000 per month for the next three months, said Glenn Brock, the Fulton school board attorney whose law firm conducted the search that brought Haro to Fulton.

He said Fulton's contract with his firm entitles the board to a free search because Haro left in less than a year.

Board members said they had not talked about when to start looking for a permanent superintendent.

The board named Michael Vanairsdale, formerly an assistant superintendent, as acting superintendent. He will be paid $145,000 for leading the 71,000-student district.

Meanwhile, Haro, who got a compensation package of at least $237,000 when he left the suburban Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan school district, said he plans to take a year off before looking for a new job. [End]

3 posted on 10/26/2003 1:27:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. I was offered a teaching job by the DISD in 1997; if I had taught French, I would have earned $28,000 a year. If I had agreed to teach ESL courses (which I am not qualified to teach), I would have earned $31,000 a year. Substitute teachers made $50 a day back then, I think. Pathetic.
4 posted on 10/26/2003 1:30:29 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Pedantic_Lady
You need to be at a public school and in a union to make the bucks. Private school teachers make very little (at least parochial ones). Ironically, 9 times out of 10 you get a better education at a private school.
5 posted on 10/26/2003 1:39:02 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Hacksaw
The DISD stands for the Dallas Independent School District; they ARE public schools. Nobody said anything to me about joining a union when they offered me the job.

By the way, I disagree that you get a better education at private schools. We had some kids transfer in to my high school from private schools and god, were they ever stupid.

6 posted on 10/26/2003 1:42:23 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have relatives in the suburbs west of Philidelphia. Top teachers salaries are 90+ thousand.

This is way out of wack compared to the private sector especially when the vacations and benefits are figured in. They can get away with this in Pennsylvania, a heavily union state.
7 posted on 10/26/2003 1:48:37 AM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Pedantic_Lady
maybe they were kicked out of the private school for being stupid....
8 posted on 10/26/2003 1:52:48 AM PST by cherry
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"If there is any way to make some extra money, volunteer to do it," said Henry, who teaches gifted elementary students. "You have just got to keep looking at the pay schedule. [The top] should be your goal."

This guy shows up to "work" every day to work towards his goal of rising to the top of the pay scale... wonder where educating his students falls on his priority list?

9 posted on 10/26/2003 1:52:51 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: cherry
I doubt it. Most private schools don't care how badly you do as long as your tuition check doesn't bounce. One of my childhood friends who lived on the same street as I did went to a swank private school while I was shipped off to the local public school. She flunked her way through high school and was never asked to leave. She's an investment banker now after going to Duke. I outscored her on the SAT by a full 300 points. She's no smarter than I am...her parents were just wealthier.
10 posted on 10/26/2003 1:57:48 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Pedantic_Lady
Individual personal stories are not a good substitute for decisions on big issues i.e. are private schools better than public. I do think private schools have a huge advantage in that they don't have to educate problem children, they can kick them out. And they don't have mandates to deal with. But there are plenty of terrible private schools, plenty. And the resources aren't there for big things as they are in public schools,,,labs, gyms, equipment etc. But on the whole, what they gain in order, discipline, parental involvement and a decent set of kids seems to give them a huge advantage to me. I would willingly send my kid to a less desirable school to have them get a normal life without a bunch of thugs and gangs and drugs, and to go to school with kids from good families.
11 posted on 10/26/2003 2:13:28 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
Perhaps I was amazingly lucky, but I went to a public high school in Texas that didn't really have trouble with equipment; sure, we didn't have an indoor pool or clay tennis court like a nearby wealthy private school, but what the hell did we need with things like that, anyway?

Kids from my high school consistently outperformed their private school peers on standardized tests. Perfect scores on the math or verbal sections of the SAT occurred every single year I was a student there, though there's only been one student in the last 20 years to score perfect 800s on BOTH sections. Most private schools can't point to that many successes.

I was able to enter college as a sophomore because of all the college-level courses available at my high school: biology, art history, European history, psychology, advanced French and Spanish, advanced chemistry, physiology and anatomy, trigonometry, calculus, and calculus-based statistics.

That's a public school. Free. It was a bargain, and when I have children I hope to be lucky enough to live near such a quality institution.

12 posted on 10/26/2003 2:30:29 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For Danny Cronic, whose $90,895 salary made him the highest-paid classroom teacher in the state last year. . .
Cronic, who teaches physical education. . .
"All I have ever done is just coach and teach," said Cronic, 57, who is exploring retiring after this school year

A P.E. teacher and coach earning $90,000 a year, retiring at 57. . . we're gonna go broke.

13 posted on 10/26/2003 2:36:23 AM PST by Flyer (You get more with a smile, a kind word and a gun than with a smile and a kind word)
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To: Flyer
Public schools are a brain drain. They've wasted millions of minds.
14 posted on 10/26/2003 2:47:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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"There was a time when educators' salaries were pitiful," Callahan said.

Well, that's certainly true. Before I went into IS/computers in the late 60's, I was getting paid in the vicinity of $4000 per year teaching HS math, from freshman algebra to senior calculus. Upon leaving, I immediately tripled my salary and reduced my workday from 12 hours to 9.

And there was a time when high school graduates were educated.

You know, I loved teaching math and my students did well. I never had a student who took the NMSQT and scored an lower than in the top tenth percentile - most were in the 99th percentile (and I didn't teach for the test :-). The combination of low pay, unbelievable administrative ignorance and BS, NEA thuggery and my wife's having twins forced me to leave. For right or for wrong, I've never looked back.
15 posted on 10/26/2003 2:53:27 AM PST by pt17
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To: Flyer
"All I have ever done is just coach and teach,"

Maybe semi-pro sports hysteria should be taken out of all public schools, or run by non teachers. Plus these part timers need to work year round like the rest of us peons.
16 posted on 10/26/2003 2:53:40 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: Pedantic_Lady
Public schools are hit and miss, some good and some bad. As much as I hate to admit it, they are improving contary to what most believe.

However, that does not mean that are not extremly wasteful, corrupt, unnecessarily burden their teachers, underpay their teachers, create reams of nonsense paperwork, are heavily overstaff administratively, don't understand or effectively use technology, and the list goes on and on...

They are succeeding inspite of tremendous obstacles.
17 posted on 10/26/2003 3:03:11 AM PST by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It costs $13,000 per student in the Atlanta public schools. And only 44% of 8th graders can do math at their grade level. Other test scores are just as bad.

If the teachers are earning so much money, why does Georgia have the lowest SAT scores in the country? What are these teachers teaching?

18 posted on 10/26/2003 3:05:39 AM PST by Atlantian
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To: BushCountry
I agree that teachers are underpaid and have to deal with reams of paperwork, but I absolutely do NOT agree that public schools are extremely "corrupt." How are they corrupt?
19 posted on 10/26/2003 3:05:45 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Atlantian
If the teachers are earning so much money, why does Georgia have the lowest SAT scores in the country? What are these teachers teaching?

They aren't. And to think, close to 50% of all state budgets go toward "eduation." That's our tax dollars going down the rat hole along with our childrens' and our country's future.

20 posted on 10/26/2003 3:13:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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