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Bush to clerics: Muslims aren't enemy
usa today ^ | 10-25-03 | richard benedetto

Posted on 10/25/2003 11:09:21 AM PDT by wheelgunguru

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apecsummit; bush43; clerics; enemy; indonesia; islam; muslims; williamboykin
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1 posted on 10/25/2003 11:09:21 AM PDT by wheelgunguru
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To: wheelgunguru
I think Bush needs to stop worrying about what the murdering Muslims think about Americans and this country and quit making unecessary apologies for us Americans who don't give a "rat's ass" about what any of them think.

The only power these slugs have over us is the power that is given them by the ignorance and fear our leaders exhibit on the world scene.

This is also true about any of the America last crowds living in or out of this country.

Screw them and the horses they rode in on.

2 posted on 10/25/2003 11:25:39 AM PDT by VOYAGER
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To: wheelgunguru
"I said (Boykin) didn't reflect my opinion," Bush said. "It just doesn't reflect what the government thinks. And I think they were pleased to hear that."

For those of you that do not understand what Bush means when he says islam is a "religion of peace", get a clue...

3 posted on 10/25/2003 11:27:58 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: wheelgunguru
On Bali in Indonesia, Islamic religious leaders told the president in a private meeting that they worry that Americans believe all Muslims are terrorists. "I wanted to make it very clear that I didn't feel that way and ^a handful of Americans don't feel that way," Bush told reporters later.
4 posted on 10/25/2003 11:35:50 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: wheelgunguru
Bush needs a cork in his mouth.
5 posted on 10/25/2003 11:46:17 AM PDT by RLK
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To: wheelgunguru
Somebody missed a lot of history classes. Muslims are trouble, have been trouble and will always be trouble for non-Muslims. They have never been anything but trouble. Look at the Muslim countries where it is forbidden to worship other than the Muslim faith. What is our president smoking?

Try and stand in the center of town in a Muslim country and publicly renounce the Muslim faith and the teachings of Mohammed.

6 posted on 10/25/2003 12:41:03 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: wheelgunguru
On this issue, as well as immigration, Bush is F.O.S.!
7 posted on 10/25/2003 12:47:50 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
An excerpt from the Muslim "holy" book says,

"I will indeed strike terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So smite on your enemy's necks and above these on their heads and strike off all their fingertips. This punishment is given them because they opposed Allah and his Messenger........" (8:12-13)

Another passage: "Ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)." (9:123)

These are only two of many excerpts of that idiot rag known as the Koran that requires their adherents to wage war upon all non-Muslims.

So, in the Muslim world, we have 1) those who are faithful to their religion and are required to destroy/subdue all non-Muslims or 2) those Muslims who do not destroy us, therefore are not true to their faith.

Hmmm. Seems like either way, they are an unsavory lot.

8 posted on 10/25/2003 1:02:28 PM PDT by wheelgunguru
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To: wheelgunguru
If any Muslims did not support terrorism, they would get out of Islam in a hurry. Anyone bearing this name is helping to play this game!
9 posted on 10/25/2003 1:44:00 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: tessalu
So you may tell me that if a Muslim leaves Islam, he will be killed! See what I mean? If this is not Satanic, I do not know what is. Yes, Muslim countries do jail, and kill Muslims who deny the Islamic faith, but give me one reason why we should support this evil.
10 posted on 10/25/2003 1:46:52 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: wheelgunguru
Boykin has apologized.

... for being a Christian and excercizing his right to free speech.

11 posted on 10/25/2003 1:49:31 PM PDT by slimer ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato)
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To: slimer
Americans are not as stupid as Bush would have the world to believe. We know who is killing who around this world, and we know which countries around this world deny their own people religious freedom. Maybe Bush does not know who is doing all of this killing in the name of allah, but the people of the USA do know, and it is no secret.
12 posted on 10/25/2003 2:30:59 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: RLK
See reply #3..apply it to yourself.
13 posted on 10/25/2003 5:43:39 PM PDT by Valin (A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject)
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To: wheelgunguru
"...If anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or to spread mischief in the land, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind. And (likewise) if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind"
(Surah Al-Maaida 5:32)

Want to play dueling verses?
14 posted on 10/25/2003 5:46:21 PM PDT by Valin (A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject)
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To: wheelgunguru
Bush is working to counteract the efforts of bin Laden and other fanatics to stir up a religious war, and to complicate the war on terrorism by making this a "West vs Islam" conflict.

Bush has shown excellent judgement on this from the beginning.

15 posted on 10/25/2003 5:51:38 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Valin
Koran.
3:151-152 "We shall certainly strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. .. and certainly Allah had made good his promise to you when you were slaying them to pieces by his permission."
4-74 "Let those who would prefer the hereafter to the present life, fight in the cause of Allah."
4:91 'It is these [unbelievers] against whom we have given absolute authority."
4:104 "Do not be slack in pursuing these disbelieving people."
8:12-13 "I will indeed strike terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So smite on your enemy's necks and above these on their heads and strike off all their fingertips. This punishment is given them because they opposed Allah and his Messenger........
8:60 "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts oo the enemies of Allah and your enemies)
9:29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah...
9:123 "Ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
13:41 "See they not that we gradually reduce the land (in their control)
16 posted on 10/25/2003 5:52:39 PM PDT by wheelgunguru
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To: wheelgunguru
"The best jihad is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic"

And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you. But do not transgress the limits. Truly Allah loves not the transgressors"
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:190)

"Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Indeed, Allah loves those who deal with equity"
(Surah Al-Mumtahinah 60:8)

17 posted on 10/25/2003 6:11:22 PM PDT by Valin (A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject)
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To: Jorge
I disagree with you. Respectfully.
18 posted on 10/25/2003 6:15:50 PM PDT by wheelgunguru
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To: Jorge
Never mind trying to talk sense into these people, there's very little difference between the majority of the people posting on this thread, and radical Muslims.
19 posted on 10/25/2003 6:19:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Those who think they know, really piss off those of us who truly do.)
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To: Valin
Radical Muslim clerics parse the Qu'ran to incite hatred and violence.

You parse the Qu'ran to incite fear and justify hatred.

How long have you been in cohoots with bin Laden?

Thank God that the vast majority of both Christians and Muslims don't pay attention to you radicals.
20 posted on 10/25/2003 6:25:08 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Those who think they know, really piss off those of us who truly do.)
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