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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Long Cut; ClancyJ; Avoiding_Sulla; EternalVigilance
OMG NO COULD IT BE!!!???

Could it be that this judge has been conservative all his life ?? Oh no it's a blow to all those so called lock step sheeples.
41 posted on 10/25/2003 1:53:40 PM PDT by AbsoluteJustice (Kiss me I'm an INFIDEL!!!!)
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To: kattracks
Judge Greer is NO King Solomon. I wonder if the truth were known, if he would like to die in the manner that he perscribed for Terri Schiavo? I could never have any confidence in this man, for any reason!
42 posted on 10/25/2003 2:10:23 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Perhaps you could put in for sainthood for your beloved judge?

Apparently this elected politician has the spinmeisters ready to help in the campaign; and obviously there are folks in the press who will be glad to assist.
43 posted on 10/25/2003 2:31:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: AbsoluteJustice
You gonna have a party if and when they succeed in killing her?
44 posted on 10/25/2003 2:32:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: MainFrame65; kattracks; Theodore R.
"The only "expert" testimony afforded a fair hearing was from experts chosen by the husband - and that is NOT a fair hearing.

Also, from what I have read here, all of Terri's indications of consciousness and responsiveness have been by way of physical reaction. If the judge is incapable of seeing such responses, HE IS INCAPABLE OF RENDERING JUDGEMENT, AND OUGHT TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THIS CASE. His failure to do so manifests gross judicial misconduct, and ought to be grounds for impeachment and REMOVAL. "
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Theodore:
This just reminded me of another thing I ran across in my reading of the statutes! I'm posting exactly as I wrote it on my other page:

744.3725 Procedure for extraordinary authority.--Before the [KANGAROO] court may grant authority to a guardian to exercise any of the rights specified in s. 744.3215(4), THE [KANGAROO] COURT MUST:.......

(1) Appoint an independent attorney to act on the incapacitated person's behalf, and the attorney must have the opportunity to meet with the person and to present evidence and cross-examine witnesses at any hearing on the petition for authority to act;

(2) Receive as evidence independent medical, psychological, and social evaluations with respect to the incapacitated person by competent professionals or appoint its own experts to assist in the evaluations;

(3) PERSONALLY MEET WITH THE INCAPACITATED PERSON to obtain its own impression of the person's capacity, so as to afford the incapacitated person the full opportunity to express his or her personal views or desires with respect to the judicial proceeding and issue before the court; ******[OH MY GOSH!!! PAGE THE FREEPER WHO IS ALWAYS SAYING, 'JUDGE GREER, YOU SHOULD HAVE LOOKED INTO TERRI'S EYES AND ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED TO EAT'!!!!]

(4) Find by clear and convincing evidence that the person lacks the capacity to make a decision about the issue before the court and that the incapacitated person's capacity is not likely to change in the foreseeable future;

(5) Be persuaded by clear and convincing evidence that the authority being requested is in the best interests of the incapacitated person; and.....

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****AGAIN.

*****(3) PERSONALLY MEET WITH THE INCAPACITATED PERSON to obtain its own impression of the person's capacity, so as to afford the incapacitated person the full opportunity to express his or her personal views or desires with respect to the judicial proceeding and issue before the court; ******[OH MY GOSH!!! PAGE THE FREEPER WHO IS ALWAYS SAYING, 'JUDGE GREER, YOU SHOULD HAVE LOOKED INTO TERRI'S EYES AND ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED TO EAT'!!!!]

NOW I'M HEARING THE KANGAROO COURT IS LEGALLY BLIND!!?? CAN THIS CASE GET ANY MORE WEIRD???





45 posted on 10/25/2003 2:34:50 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: First_Salute; MarMema; MHGinTN
BUMP!
46 posted on 10/25/2003 2:45:59 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Brilliant
"the court just made a judgment that this woman's life is not worth living"

Yep; you probably have estimated well.

47 posted on 10/25/2003 3:02:55 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Ethan_Allen
Bump.
48 posted on 10/25/2003 3:04:08 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: livius
They didn't mention the bit about Greer's wife being on the board of Felos' hospice, I note.

You have got to be kidding!

Wow! The judge's wife is on the board of the hospice run by the lawyer who is trying to have one of the residents starved to death at the request of her husband has two children by his new girl friend...

Is it just me or does this sound like a made-for-TV movie?

49 posted on 10/25/2003 3:12:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The universe holds many wonders: Be terrified and relieved that we have not explained everything yet)
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To: kattracks
YOUR HONOR:

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.


(Freepers, excuse the caps. He has poor vision.)
50 posted on 10/25/2003 3:40:41 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: kattracks
"Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it."

Just proves that he's a maniacal control freak who believes in his own divinity.

I read in his bio that he is a consummate politician.

That alone, is enough to damn, him IMHO.

51 posted on 10/25/2003 4:13:34 PM PDT by isrul
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To: kattracks
But those who know the 61-year-old probate judge say he is a prudent jurist who probably agonized over his decisions.

"He is such a good and decent man and to have this kind of rap being put on him right now is so unfair," said Mary Repper, a political strategist who has helped Greer's campaigns.

I can't buy Mary Repper's position. There is nothing decent that George W. Greer has done in this case.

I am unsurprised to finds that Greer, a native New Yorker, is a "moderate" Republican. I had suspected this, but we had been unable for all these weeks to confirm his party affiliation. This does explain his friendship with the Pinellas Co. Republican sheriff.

I am surprised that he is in a conservative Baptist Church. I wonder what his fellow believers think about him now? Could you in good conscience attend a church with this kind of "judge" there?

He is therefore a "Republican" that Lawton Chiles chose from "the other side" to put on the bench. I think that Greer could be power-hungry in an attempt to compensate for his lack of "vision." Remember how George Herbert Walker Bush used to downplay the "vision thing." Now we see that George W. Greer literally has "no vision" at all! And certainly he lacks sympathy for the disabled, the kind of people that George H.W. Bush tried to help by signing the Americans With Disabilities Act in 1990, the year that poor Terri collapsed. He wouldn't even examine Terri before ordering her starvation. He must not follow the Baptist interpretation of Scripture.

Could Greer's "Republicanism" be a reason that Governor Bush seemed hesitant to challenge him earlier?
52 posted on 10/25/2003 6:30:37 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: JennysCool
"The man did everything he was asked to do as far as checking out the case, checking out the medical situation and he did it two or three times."

Isn't this another patent lie of the FL news media? He would not allow Terri to have feeding lessons, as long urged by the parents. This man is a fraud in my book.
53 posted on 10/25/2003 6:33:48 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I have long said that this is a made-for-TV movie (4 hours on two nights, maybe 5 hours). However, this film would so discredit the euthanasia movement that CBS (the only network still doing made-for-TV movies) won't touch it. Of course, CBS could put out a film of lies, but the legacy of William S. Paley wouldn't permit that, would it?
54 posted on 10/25/2003 6:35:36 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: kattracks
"It's been an ordeal for him too," said the lawyer Armstrong.

Now Lawyer Armstrong, I did not gather in the least that George W. Greer hesitated to have Terri starved and dehydrated. Where did you gather that he was reluctant? It seemed to me that he could not wait to have this outrage committed on his watch?

For all I know, I may have agreed with every previous decision that George W. Greer has made from his "bench." But his role in Terri's fight negates anything and everything he has or has not done in the past. If he is so wrong on this, I would wonder how he could have been such an excellent jurist otherwise????
55 posted on 10/25/2003 7:13:38 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; Theodore R.; sweetliberty; cyn; trussell; EternalVigilance; Ragtime Cowgirl
If it is true that the judge's wife is on the board of the hospice run by the lawyer who is trying to have one of the residents starved to death at the request of her husband, then the Judge Greer should have excused himself.

This should be reason enough to get the judgement overturned.
56 posted on 10/25/2003 7:19:38 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: ClancyJ
The FR self-righteous, boorish bunch of arrogant dunderheads who have the answers to all issues without the travail of knowing the facts or applicable law, and more importantly, don't care about the facts or law, are illustrative of the maxim saying that there is nothing so dangerous as stupidity exercised by a large group.

The Florida Legislature has become the collective poster child of that truism.

Every once in a while that governmental branch, and the Executive as well, needs to reminded of the separation of powers doctrine has has preserved our Nation and protected us from the tyranny that dilution of the doctrine would create.

The circuit judge presiding in probate did what the evidence and applicable law indicated. The Legislature, playing to the fanatical madding crowd, knowingly contravened the separation of powers principle and transgressed into the realm of the judiciary. The courts will have little difficulty setting the Florida constitutional balance back in the equilibrium necessary to sound government.

Get over it!

57 posted on 10/25/2003 7:20:18 PM PDT by middie
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To: FR_addict
If it is true that the judge's wife is on the board of the hospice run by the lawyer who is trying to have one of the residents starved to death at the request of her husband, then the Judge Greer should have excused himself.


I agree, and we need to get the media to understand this point. Thus far, the media sees this as elimination of a "vegetable" who has already "told" her husband to remove her feeding tube against the wishes of the "meddling" parents and siblings. Will the truth ever prevail? I remember Bob Dole in 1996 getting so frustrated because "truth" never seemed to be accepted in his campaign against Clinton.
58 posted on 10/25/2003 7:23:09 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: middie
The circuit judge presiding in probate did what the evidence and applicable law indicated. The Legislature, playing to the fanatical madding crowd, knowingly contravened the separation of powers principle and transgressed into the realm of the judiciary. The courts will have little difficulty setting the Florida constitutional balance back in the equilibrium necessary to sound government.

B.S.

The courts are only one branch of co-equals. They are not our masters.

59 posted on 10/25/2003 7:26:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: kattracks
"He is such a good and decent man and to have this kind of rap being put on him right now is so unfair,"

A good and decent man doesn't help a man murder an inconvenient, disabled wife. If he really is a "good and decent" man, he is an idiot who has been duped by the self-serving grandstanding of an unscrupulous and delusional lawyer. In any event, it has become blatantly obvious that he is incapable of objectivity in this case and he should immediately recuse himself due to undeniable conflicts of interest.

60 posted on 10/25/2003 7:26:53 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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