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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: middie
Every once in a while that governmental branch, and the Executive as well, needs to reminded of the separation of powers doctrine has has preserved our Nation and protected us from the tyranny that dilution of the doctrine would create.

It is the courts, in a growing number of cases, that are becoming the tyrants.

It is they who need a reminder of the constitutional limits of their authority and power.

It is their arrogance that needs a good dousing in the realities of self-government.

It is the lawyers and judges that have lost sight of the founding principles that made this the greatest country on the face of the earth.

61 posted on 10/25/2003 7:30:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: middie
"The FR self-righteous, boorish bunch of arrogant dunderheads who have the answers to all issues without the travail of knowing the facts..."

..Middie said self-righteously, boorishly and arrogantly...

62 posted on 10/25/2003 7:33:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: kattracks
"A heart attack in 1990 left Terri Schiavo, now 39, in a persistently vegetative state and court-appointed doctors believe there is no hope of recovery. Greer ruled Michael Schiavo showed "clear and convincing" evidence his wife did not want to be kept alive artificially and permitted him to end her nourishment."

They're still perpetuating the lies I see.

" Repper and former Pinellas County Commissioner Charles Rainey said the fact that no one opposed the quiet, studious Greer speaks volumes for how well he is regarded in Pinellas County."

No, the only thing it speaks of is the cluelessness of the people when it comes to voting on judges. How can they make informed decisions about how to vote when there is no information circulated about the judges?

"Greer turned down repeated requests from the Schindlers to order therapy for their daughter or to dismiss Michael Schiavo as her guardian"

Maybe it's just me, but doesn't that seem a little bit biased? Especially the part about the therapy. What harm could it have done? I mean, if Terri was really vegetative, it would have strengthened the HINO's case. But seemingly he can't afford to take that chance. Why? And why is Greer not considering THAT part of it? That, to me, is very troubling.

"Greer allowed an acupuncturist to administer a treatment session, and then granted Clark's children permission to withdraw their father's feeding tube."

Not a comparable case. And I find it interesting that in a case where there is a living will, that he is willing to at least allow attempts to be made first to try alternatives whereas in a case where there is no such living will, he denies such attempts.

He was sympathetic and empathetic to the fact that we had somebody who in her culture believed in these alternative methods,"

Too bad he doesn't believe that just maybe Terri's family knows her better than the HINO....if for no other reason than they have no questionable motives. They only desire to give their daughter a chance.

"But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."

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63 posted on 10/25/2003 7:46:25 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: CedarDave
"the belief by many that she could be taught to swallow if rehabilitation had not been denied by her husband"

She already CAN swallow as evidenced by the fact that she doesn't drool, and according to the affadavits of nurses who cared for Terri early on, she was able to eat some soft foods and take some liquids until she was denied therapy.

"there is another side that is being ignored by the court and the press"

Very important point Dave, and where are all the "objective" observers asking, "why?"

64 posted on 10/25/2003 7:56:47 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Politicalmom
It seems an important question to ask, "why did Michael Schiavo FORBID Terri's own parents from videotaping her?" Does this not seem odd in and of itself?
65 posted on 10/25/2003 7:58:59 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: longtermmemmory
"Lets read the details of the actual testimony and see what was said."

Well some of the details of the testimony are here (post #214).

66 posted on 10/25/2003 8:02:20 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: litany_of_lies; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; ...
"They know ahead of time that they are facing a $400K-$800K claim, as I understand it. They should be working on this case before she dies, not after."

Excellent point. I wonder if any of the fighters in this case are FReeping the insurance companies that may be involved to do a little investigating. Of course, the mistress is in insurance and apparently the HINO has at least some involvement in a (home-based?) insurance business. That might be a good place to start digging.

Terri's Army ping! If you want on or off this list, please let me know.

67 posted on 10/25/2003 8:12:58 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Smocker
"I read he gave Felos free reign to speak in court without interruptions, and that the attorney, Ferrara for the Schindlers was interrupted constantly and practically not allowed to speak."

I have heard the same thing.

68 posted on 10/25/2003 8:14:29 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; floriduh voter
"Greer turned down repeated requests from the Schindlers to order therapy for their daughter or to dismiss Michael Schiavo as her guardian."

GAG. Good night, can't stand any more. Thanks for all you are doing.

And you, especially, FV. I hope you can get some rest. That evil is very real, and you're bound to feel it. Stay strong, and know we're thinking of you & praying for you there. Love to the family.
69 posted on 10/25/2003 8:19:54 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Cicero
"With Terri Schiavo there is no living will and basically no evidence but the husband's unsupported word that she wanted to be starved to death"

And we musn't lose sight of the fact that Michael Schiavo didn't recollect this "fact" until 8 years after Terri's initial trauma and, coincidentally (?), at about the same time George Felos entered the picture.

70 posted on 10/25/2003 8:20:33 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: kattracks
This plus side to this article.. if all the liberals hear that a conservative judge is the one who sentence a disabled woman to death by starvation, maybe they won't be so quick to want to retract Terri's Law and they'll help save her not because it's the right thing to do, but because they hate conservatives and they think he is one.. (maybe just wishful thinking)

maybe someone should slip this article to the ACLU.. they might decide to switch sides just because Greer is supposedly conservative.
71 posted on 10/25/2003 8:23:01 PM PDT by honeygrl (All of the above is JUST MY OPINION)
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To: MainFrame65
Very good post.
72 posted on 10/25/2003 8:24:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Smocker; sweetliberty
"felos had free reign to speak"... Right, that was written in an article I read last week. there's so much info, so many articles, it's hard to keep it straight. But that was documented ... somewhere!
73 posted on 10/25/2003 8:25:47 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: phenn
family = Terri's family. I don't know how they can stand this roller coaster. Hugs to them all w/prayers, and you too!
74 posted on 10/25/2003 8:28:02 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: honeygrl
This plus side to this article.. if all the liberals hear that a conservative judge is the one who sentence a disabled woman to death by starvation, maybe they won't be so quick to want to retract Terri's Law....

Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

They argument will be "even this conservative judge thinks Terri should be disconnected, showing how totally out-of-step the prolife radicals are with the rest of the country."

This issue is too important for the merchants of death and their willing accomplices in the ACLU to switch sides for any reason.

75 posted on 10/25/2003 8:28:23 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: kattracks
"A heart attack in 1990 left Terri Schiavo, now 39, in a persistently vegetative state "

Well that right there shows the bias of this paper and their campaign to revamp the reputation of that ghoul judge is hampered by his ignorant, biased, and just plain stupid rulings. He isn't fit to judge a pet show, in my opinion.
76 posted on 10/25/2003 8:31:23 PM PDT by PeyersPatches
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To: Ethan_Allen
"NOW I'M HEARING THE KANGAROO COURT IS LEGALLY BLIND!!?? CAN THIS CASE GET ANY MORE WEIRD??? "

Yeah, I find the blindness rather ironic in this case.

Can it get any weirder? Well, based on past experience when dealing with radical, left-wing nutjobs and an out of control, agenda driven judiciary, I would say that it not only CAN get weirder , but undoubtededly WILL. I learned a long time ago to never say "this will be the last straw."

I wanted to tell you Ethan, that I, for one, appreciate all your effort to research and post documentation pertinent to this case. Keep up the good work.

77 posted on 10/25/2003 8:33:44 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Route66
"And notice here that the wishes of the spouse in this case were trumped by the rest of the family even though we have been treated to a barrage of comments in the Shiavo case about the rights of husbands and wives to make these decisions for one another."

Excellent point. The spouse in that case was female and the family trumped her wishes. The spouse in this case is male and he trumps the family's wishes.
78 posted on 10/25/2003 8:38:35 PM PDT by PeyersPatches
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"Is it just me or does this sound like a made-for-TV movie?"

Any bets on whether hubby dearest has already collected an advance on the rights?

79 posted on 10/25/2003 8:39:12 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: kaylar
"I'm not sure. I thought I read that Felos was even trying to get the ISPs hosting terrisfight to pull the videos , because they're "illegal" as MS didn't give permission for them to be taken????"


Hopefully some enterprising folks who care about Terri will bootleg them then and continue to pass them around. I do not believe I have ever seen evil work so hard to murder and cover it up like I am seeing now. It is frightening and revolting.
80 posted on 10/25/2003 8:41:15 PM PDT by PeyersPatches
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