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California: Report: Tripled Vehicle Registration Cost Sends New-Vehicle Sales Plummeting -40%
NBC4 ^ | October 23, 2003

Posted on 10/23/2003 5:35:10 PM PDT by heleny

Report: Tripled Vehicle Registration Cost Sends New-Vehicle Sales Plummeting

Retail Sales Drop By 40 Percent This Autumn

POSTED: 11:48 a.m. PDT October 23, 2003
UPDATED: 12:09 p.m. PDT October 23, 2003

LOS ANGELES -- Since California's vehicle registration fee tripled at the start of the month, new-vehicle sales have plummeted, with luxury-vehicle sales hit especially hard, according to J.D. Power and Associates.

Based on retail sales through Sunday, luxury vehicle retail sales in the state dropped by 40 percent from September to October, compared to a decline of 19 percent over the same period a year ago.

Total industry retail sales in the state declined 35 percent over the same period compared to 18 percent a year ago, according to Power Information Network, an affiliate of J.D. Power and Associates.

Luxury-vehicle retail sales nationwide, excluding California, declined 25 percent from September to October, compared with a 17 percent dip last year, while the industry-level retail sales dropped 27 percent from September to October, compared with a 21 percent decline a year ago.

The data is based on retail sales transactions through Oct. 19, 2003.

To help plug a $38 billion hole in the state budget, in June, Gov. Gray Davis signed an executive order for the Department of Motor Vehicles to begin charging California drivers who registered their vehicle on or after Oct. 1 up to three times the amount of the previous fees.

The fee amounts to 2 percent of the vehicle's value.

"We saw a spike in sales in California the last several days in September, with consumers trying to register their vehicles before the new law went into effect," said Tom Libby, director of industry analysis for PIN. "It's apparent California consumers are hesitant to buy right now."

He noted that Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger has vowed to repeal the car tax on his first day in office.



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To: heleny
No, I was talking about the actual car payments. If another poster's rule of thumb was correct (and I interpreted it accurately), the increased tax raises a buyer's monthly payments by 6-7%.
21 posted on 10/23/2003 6:14:00 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: umgud
Schwarzenegger said he'd repeal the tripling of the car tax. According to Roger Hedgecock today, the DMV head claimed it'll take 3 months to take effect. That would be mid-February 2004.

When Davis (through Steve Peace) tripled the VLF at the end of June or beginning of July, they said the DMV needed 60 days notice, which is why the tripling began Oct 1st.

Who knows if the Davis Democrats will cause trouble delaying the change?

22 posted on 10/23/2003 6:14:15 PM PDT by heleny
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To: vp_cal
If sales are plummeting they are not collecting the tax revenues they wanted and seem to believe they need. people wont buy if the price is too steep.
when i moved back to oregon i was so pleasantly surprised when i paid 30.00 a year for registration on my car compared to 200.00 in cali.
23 posted on 10/23/2003 6:16:34 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (God bless America ,land that i love.)
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To: heleny
You're right, a (relatively measly) additional $533 annually shouldn't make a difference in the sale of a $40,000 car.

What made sales plummet is the fact that Arnold (and others running for CA Governor) promised to repeal the tax. People stopped buying, waited to see if the recall would pass, and now that it has passed, are waiting for the repeal to take effect.

Because we have two children 16 & 18 years old attending school and living at home we are paying registration fees on both of their cars, my car, my husbands car, 2 old restored fun cars, one travel trailer and 1 motorcycle. Unfortunately, over half of these vehicles have registration due on December and January. Our newest vehicle is a 1996 Ford Van. I am scared to get the tax bill because I open the statement for the 1995 Dodge yesterday and it was almost $400!!!!!

Thank goodness we are very conservative with our budget. We will get through this but I worry about young couples with little children, living check to check. This is going to wreck a lot of Christmas'.

24 posted on 10/23/2003 6:17:06 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Dr. Frank
There are lots of mortgage/loan calculators online. I entered: $40,000 loan at 4% for 5 years, and the monthly payment came out to around $740/month or $8800/year. (not incl. extra fees for $0 downpayment)
25 posted on 10/23/2003 6:20:30 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Zevonismymuse
Make sure you file the form to request a refund when you pay your inflated registration. That way, if the lawsuit against this illegal tripling wins and if the DMV is forced to refund you, you'll already have a request on file.
26 posted on 10/23/2003 6:22:45 PM PDT by heleny
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To: mt tom
Is your 64 collector exempt from smog inspections?
27 posted on 10/23/2003 6:23:48 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz (Doing the best I can with limited resources.)
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To: Zevonismymuse
Thank you! I'm surprised it took 24 posts to get to this obvious truth. Why buy now if the price will go down substantially in a short while?

It might represent a buying opportunity for Californians, though. I can see heavy discounts offered in the last week of December in order to stimulate sales before the year is up. Many dealers might eat the amount of the tax increase, rather than just close up shop for three months.

28 posted on 10/23/2003 6:29:57 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: pabianice
Why wouldnt sales have plummeted since the tax increase? Arnold (and Tom) campaigned on eliminating the increase. So why not wait a month to buy that new car and save some money.

Many people may also be not buying as a form of tax protest as well.

29 posted on 10/23/2003 6:30:00 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: heleny
The luxury tax is no more. At least on a federal level. California may have one of their own.

It was done away with because it caused a massive decrease in sales of items subject too it, raised little revenue and was a net revenue loss because of lost jobs.

30 posted on 10/23/2003 6:32:08 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Dr. Frank
What are typical yearly car payments for someone who buys a $40,000 car? (honestly curious)

About $750/month. I thought that was outrageous, so when I bought my Lexus I took the hit up front and paid $40K in cash...and was the dealership ever disappointed! They love all that interest - as it was, they only made about $500 off of me on the transaction.

31 posted on 10/23/2003 6:33:20 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: pabianice
Wait a minute. Sales on $ 40,000 cars fell 40% because CA raised the registration fee

Unintended Consequences: It's not just an idea, it's the law.

32 posted on 10/23/2003 6:34:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Dr. Frank
The quick and easy way to figure car payments in your head is to figure @ $19 to $20 per thousand borrowed. Now, with special financing offers you are looking at @ $17 per thousand borrowed. (Assuming 5 year financing)

$40,000 financed would be a payment of @ $720
33 posted on 10/23/2003 6:34:05 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: heleny
The state stands to lose more in sales tax revenue from new car sales than with any increase in registration fees.
34 posted on 10/23/2003 6:39:27 PM PDT by dc27
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To: dc27
The state stands to lose more in sales tax revenue from new car sales than with any increase in registration fees.

Not to mention the loss from all the people who decide it would be worth the extra trouble/risk to buy and register out-of-state or in Mexico. I seem to be seeing more Baja and Sonora plates than ever.

Even if the drop in sales is only temporary, 3-5 months out of a year may cause a noticeable dent.

35 posted on 10/23/2003 6:51:48 PM PDT by heleny
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To: hunter112
Many dealers might eat the amount of the tax increase, rather than just close up shop for three months.

Yes, there are dealers now advertising that they'll give you an additional discount equal to the increased fees for the first year.

36 posted on 10/23/2003 6:53:13 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Mr. Jeeves
they only made about $500 off of me on the transaction.

I've never been able to figure out exactly how much money they make on a particular cash sale. The dealers always claim they lose money when they sell below their "invoice price," but who knows how many rebates and incentives they get that we don't see.

37 posted on 10/23/2003 6:55:12 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Dr. Frank
What are typical yearly car payments for someone who buys a $40,000 car? (honestly curious)

That's why I never understand why people make car payments. They should just buy cars they can afford, then save up what they didn't pay out in interest ---- and soon they can buy whatever car they want with cash.

38 posted on 10/23/2003 6:56:13 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Dr. Frank
"New cars not purchased means sales tax and vehicle license fees which don't get collected at all, in the first place."

Plus part of the price of a car goes into the salaries and commissions of the dealer's employees. Those people pay sales and income taxes too, so that's yet more money the government won't see.

39 posted on 10/23/2003 7:01:05 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: vp_cal
"the liberals i know in california actually
want people to buy fewer cars because that
will mean less pollution. "

I probably shouldn't ask you to try to explain other people's reasoning...

But how is there any less pollution? I may own 10 cars, but I can only drive one at a time. In fact, driving a newer car instead of an older car will probably REDUCE the pollution.
40 posted on 10/23/2003 8:06:57 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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