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California: Report: Tripled Vehicle Registration Cost Sends New-Vehicle Sales Plummeting -40%
NBC4 ^ | October 23, 2003

Posted on 10/23/2003 5:35:10 PM PDT by heleny

Report: Tripled Vehicle Registration Cost Sends New-Vehicle Sales Plummeting

Retail Sales Drop By 40 Percent This Autumn

POSTED: 11:48 a.m. PDT October 23, 2003
UPDATED: 12:09 p.m. PDT October 23, 2003

LOS ANGELES -- Since California's vehicle registration fee tripled at the start of the month, new-vehicle sales have plummeted, with luxury-vehicle sales hit especially hard, according to J.D. Power and Associates.

Based on retail sales through Sunday, luxury vehicle retail sales in the state dropped by 40 percent from September to October, compared to a decline of 19 percent over the same period a year ago.

Total industry retail sales in the state declined 35 percent over the same period compared to 18 percent a year ago, according to Power Information Network, an affiliate of J.D. Power and Associates.

Luxury-vehicle retail sales nationwide, excluding California, declined 25 percent from September to October, compared with a 17 percent dip last year, while the industry-level retail sales dropped 27 percent from September to October, compared with a 21 percent decline a year ago.

The data is based on retail sales transactions through Oct. 19, 2003.

To help plug a $38 billion hole in the state budget, in June, Gov. Gray Davis signed an executive order for the Department of Motor Vehicles to begin charging California drivers who registered their vehicle on or after Oct. 1 up to three times the amount of the previous fees.

The fee amounts to 2 percent of the vehicle's value.

"We saw a spike in sales in California the last several days in September, with consumers trying to register their vehicles before the new law went into effect," said Tom Libby, director of industry analysis for PIN. "It's apparent California consumers are hesitant to buy right now."

He noted that Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger has vowed to repeal the car tax on his first day in office.



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USA: California new light vehicle sales said to have dropped after new tax hits

23 Oct 2003 Source: just-auto.com editorial team

Since California's higher vehicle registration fees went into effect on October 1, new light-vehicle retail sales in California have dropped significantly, with the luxury vehicle market taking a substantial hit, according to Power Information Network (PIN) LLC, an affiliate of JD Power and Associates. The data is based on retail sales transactions to October 19, 2003.

Luxury vehicle retail sales in California declined 40% from September to October this year, compared with a decline of only 19% over the same period in 2002. Furthermore, total industry retail sales in California declined 35% from September to October of this year compared with a decline of 18% in 2002.

The Department of Motor Vehicles began charging California drivers who registered their vehicle on or after Oct. 1 up to three times the amount of the previous fees. The fee amounts to 2% of the vehicle's value. An executive order was signed by governor Gray Davis in June in an effort to help the revenue-depleted state.

"We saw a spike in sales in California the last several days in September, with consumers trying to register their vehicles before the new law went into effect," said Tom Libby, director of industry analysis for PIN. "It's apparent California consumers are hesitant to buy right now, however Governor-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger has already vowed to repeal the car tax on his first day in office."

Retail sales for the other 49 states also dropped, but the drop is marginal in comparison with California. Luxury vehicle retail sales nationwide (excluding California) declined 25% from September to October, compared with a 17% dip last year, while the industry-level retail sales dropped 27% from September to October, compared with a 21% decline a year ago.


1 posted on 10/23/2003 5:35:10 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
Wait a minute. Sales on $ 40,000 cars fell 40% because CA raised the registration fee from $ 50 to $ 150? Not likely.
2 posted on 10/23/2003 5:38:09 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Sales on $ 40,000 cars fell 40% because CA raised the registration fee from $ 50 to $ 150? Not likely.

Why not?

3 posted on 10/23/2003 5:40:11 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: pabianice
"The fee amounts to 2% of the vehicle's value."

Check your math.
4 posted on 10/23/2003 5:43:24 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: pabianice
Uh, no. Reg. fee on a new 40K car probably went from around $400.00 to $1200.00

$50.00 would register a mid-80's vehicle, pre - Oct. 1st.

5 posted on 10/23/2003 5:44:16 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: pabianice
2% vehicle licence fee on $40,000.00 is $800!
6 posted on 10/23/2003 5:44:17 PM PDT by Weimdog
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To: pabianice
the liberals i know in california actually
want people to buy fewer cars because that
will mean less pollution.

They consider the fact they can generate tax
revenue from it to be an additional bonus.

7 posted on 10/23/2003 5:45:59 PM PDT by vp_cal
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To: vp_cal
They consider the fact they can generate tax revenue from it to be an additional bonus.

Unfortunately, even on their own terms, this is where they shoot themselves in the foot.

New cars not purchased means sales tax and vehicle license fees which don't get collected at all, in the first place.

8 posted on 10/23/2003 5:48:00 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: vp_cal
If it were up to them we'd all be riding mass transit - except for the days we have to stay at home and starve cause the unions are on strike.
9 posted on 10/23/2003 5:48:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: pabianice
The guy I work with just registered his Mercedes - $1,399.00
10 posted on 10/23/2003 5:50:10 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: pabianice
Sales on $ 40,000 cars fell 40% because CA raised the registration fee from $ 50 to $ 150? Not likely.

Check your math. The registration fee was $30 (flat), and the other smog/etc fees were unchanged. The Vehicle License Fee is the only tax increase. It increased from $267 to $800.

For comparison: sales tax was unchanged at $2900 plus local sales tax.

You're right, a (relatively measly) additional $533 annually shouldn't make a difference in the sale of a $40,000 car. But, consider car leases, where a driver pays monthly payments on a car but has to surrender the car after the 3 years term of the lease. He has to pay the registration/VLF fees while he uses the car. In that case, where his monthly payment is probably $300, perhaps because he cannot afford a car loan to buy the car, the increased upfront costs may break the deal.

11 posted on 10/23/2003 5:51:26 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
Another telling sign that you can never tax yourself into prosperity. It always hurts somewhere, stupid dimrats.
12 posted on 10/23/2003 5:51:35 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: gubamyster
The guy I work with just registered his Mercedes - $1,399.00

I don't know about all the other fees that some Mercedes Benzes incur, like the "gas-guzzler" tax or the luxury tax -- are those one-time only? There's also a "smog impact fee" and other sundry fees including $30 registration. If those don't add much, then his car is valued by the DMV to be around $60,000.

13 posted on 10/23/2003 5:56:01 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
a (relatively measly) additional $533 annually shouldn't make a difference in the sale of a $40,000 car.

What are typical yearly car payments for someone who buys a $40,000 car? (honestly curious)

14 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:47 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
my fees for my 64 collector car is was 43.00 now it is 172.00 and value there is in the eyes of the owner.
15 posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:11 PM PDT by mt tom
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To: vpintheak
you can never tax yourself into prosperity.

That's right, but the Davis democrats evidently haven't figured it out yet. Bustamante still wanted to increases cigarette/alcohol/sin taxes during the election, even though such taxes may not provide the predicted revenue increase.

The article was probably a JD Powers press release, since the two versions are nearly identical. So, they didn't address the potential decline in sales tax revenues from the declining car sales.

16 posted on 10/23/2003 5:59:42 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Dr. Frank
a good rule of thumb 16.70 per 1000 at 0 interest rate do the math for your financed bal.
17 posted on 10/23/2003 6:01:29 PM PDT by mt tom
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To: Dr. Frank
What are typical yearly car payments for someone who buys a $40,000 car? (honestly curious)

To register it? 2% of the value (=$800), plus $30 registration, plus "smog impact fee" and other little fees.

Every other year, you have to do a smog check, which costs around $30 for regular cars but costs around $50-60 if it pollutes more, like some Mercedes Benzes or SUV's, and has to go to a "test only" center.

I'd guess the total is around $900.

18 posted on 10/23/2003 6:05:52 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
I bought my daughter a new Honda in July to beat the increase and hope this tax will be killed by the time it will need renewal next July. I paid $24,000 out the door for the Honda and the fees were $188. My 2002 Chevy pickup fees were $262 in September. I also have an old (but nice) jeep and a Toyota 4x4. If all my fees tripple, it'll really hurt.
19 posted on 10/23/2003 6:07:31 PM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: mt tom
a good rule of thumb 16.70 per 1000 at 0 interest rate do the math for your financed bal.

Interesting, thanks.

If true that means I can get a $40,000 car for a (monthly? I'm assuming) payment of around 40 x 16.70 or yearly payment of 12 x 40 x 16.70 = $8016. By a previous post the increased license tax adds $533 to that, an increase of 6.6%.

The difference is between paying $668 a month or $712 a month. Not huge, but not "measly" either IMHO.

20 posted on 10/23/2003 6:12:10 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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