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Chuck Baldwin Asks Christians, "Is President Bush Really One of Us?"
Chuck Baldwin Ministries ^ | 10-24-03 | Baldwin, Chuck

Posted on 10/23/2003 2:21:49 PM PDT by Theodore R.

Is President Bush Really "One Of Us?"

By Chuck Baldwin

Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon

October 24, 2003 As Jimmy Carter had done before him, G.W. Bush won the White House, in part, due to his Christian profession. Christians nationwide regard President Bush as "one of us." They believe that he shares their Christian principles and values.

Why, then, does President Bush use the power of his office to publicly condemn those Christians who courageously champion Christian principles? Time and again, President Bush has publicly repudiated the statements or actions of principled Christians as they attempted to stand for their convictions.

Back in 2002, Bush publicly chastised a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Rev. Jerry Vines, for his truthful remarks regarding Islam. Vines said, "Islam is not just as good as Christianity." He also rightly said, "Allah is not Jehovah." These remarks brought a swift and stern rebuke from the White House.

Likewise, when Jerry Falwell suggested that the terrorist attacks in 2001 may have been God's judgment upon America (they very well could have been), the White House immediately pronounced its vehement disagreement and displeasure. Dr. Falwell quickly apologized.

However, the most egregious example of Bush's animosity toward outspoken Christians is his handling of the Judge Roy Moore case in Alabama. Not only did President Bush publicly condemn Judge Moore, he either sent or allowed his chief political consultant Karl Rove to spearhead the attack against him.

While it was the ACLU that initially filed the legal case against Judge Moore, it was the White House that was willing to feed Judge Moore to the wolves by the surreptitious, behind-the-scenes maneuverings of Rove.

It was Karl Rove who managed the campaign of Judge Moore's principal opponent in the race for Supreme Court Chief Justice. Furthermore, it appears that Rove is privately managing Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor's prosecution of Judge Moore with the goal of putting Pryor on the federal bench. And now another outspoken Christian patriot is in the Bush crosshairs. His name is Lt. Gen. William Boykin.

In speeches before Christian gatherings, General Boykin committed a cardinal breach of political correctness by affirming that America is "a Christian nation." He also rightly observed that many Muslim terrorists hate America because we are a Christian nation. Predictably, these remarks have brought out the ire and chastisement of President Bush.

After learning of the general's remarks, Bush quickly appeared before a Muslim audience in Indonesia and soundly rebuked his statements. He said, "He (General Boykin) didn't reflect my opinion. Look, it (Boykin's remarks) just doesn't reflect what the (U.S.) government thinks."

By Bush's own words, he doesn't believe America is a Christian nation. Beyond that, he chose to stand alongside Muslims overseas when rebuking a Christian Army general who is proudly and faithfully serving his country and his Commander-in-Chief. It is painfully obvious that President Bush is willing to sacrifice any and all Christian patriots on the altar of political correctness.

It is one thing for President Bush to constantly distance himself from Christian convictions and doctrines. He wouldn't be the first President to do so. It is quite another thing, however, for Christians throughout America to continue to give him a pass for his many foibles under the charade that he is "one of us."

© Chuck Baldwin


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: boykin; bush; bushandgod; carter; christianity; falwell; jerryvines; muslims; persecution; politicalcorrectness; pryor; rove; roymoore; williamboykink
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To: Theodore R.
No chuck, the real question is what exactly are YOU one of?
41 posted on 10/23/2003 5:28:19 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: rdb3
Now you done it...CIA black helicopters will be over your house tonight and tomorrow people will be asking, "Whatever happened to rdb3? Did they get banned?"
42 posted on 10/23/2003 5:29:58 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Well, all signs point towards the grave. So I guess they can come and get me.

;-)


43 posted on 10/23/2003 5:33:18 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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To: Theodore R.
Back in 2002, Bush publicly chastised a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Rev. Jerry Vines, for his truthful remarks regarding Islam. Vines said, "Islam is not just as good as Christianity." He also rightly said, "Allah is not Jehovah." These remarks brought a swift and stern rebuke from the White House.

I believe this is a bit misleading. If I recall correctly, Dr. Vine said that Muhammed was a "demon-possessed pedophile." That may have garnered criticism from the White House.

Now I have no problem speculating that Muhammed might have been demon-possessed. If the biographical facts are accurate regarding pedophilia, I have no problem saying that either. Maybe someone else here knows more about his life than I.

44 posted on 10/23/2003 5:37:16 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: MississippiMan
..partial-birth abortion is just as legal as it was...

Thanks for explaining. Until your post I had been under the impression PBAs were now illegal. Cheers, By

45 posted on 10/23/2003 5:38:25 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: rdb3
If Chuck Baldwin ever reads me out of his definition of Christianity, I'll feel a lot more certain that I'm on the right path with God.
46 posted on 10/23/2003 5:38:38 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; abner; Aeronaut; ...
A "real honest to goodness barf" ping -- but we need to read what the "other side" is saying!
48 posted on 10/23/2003 5:50:20 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
hooboy.
49 posted on 10/23/2003 5:55:50 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Theodore R.
I'm far more confident in Bush's salvation than this buffoon's.

The bible has especially harsh condemnation for false prophets.
50 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:03 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: JackRyanCIA
If you would do it like everyone else, the mistake would not have been made.

That ain't my style. So since I didn't "do it like everyone else," it's all my fault that you posted to the wrong person.

So no apology. Okay.


51 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:04 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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To: mgist
Is Chuck Baldwin related to Alec Baldwin?

No, he's related to Up Chuck.

52 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:25 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: MoJo2001
Exactly. The extremists wouldn't be happy unless President Bush recited the same prayers as they themselves do, and would condemn him for (if he did so) crossing himself from the left to the right instead of from the right to the left.

But that's just reason #345,922 that nobody calls Chuck Baldwin "Mr. President."

53 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:39 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Howlin
Yuck
54 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:55 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Theodore R.
Nutty article.
55 posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:09 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: MEG33
"Yuck" is close to what I said. :-)
56 posted on 10/23/2003 5:59:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
A "real honest to goodness barf" ping -- but we need to read what the "other side" is saying!


This will be about his biggest readership that he'll get with the article.... He's not worth the effort but some will post his trash and thus a few will get the opportunity to read it....

Baldwindy isn't worth getting the least bit upset about. He carries about as much water as a sieve.... Elmer Gantry's all have a con they use to pry the people away from their money...

58 posted on 10/23/2003 6:08:56 PM PDT by deport (The Many, The Proud, The Winners)
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To: TheGunny
Happy 2nd anniversary with FR ...

59 posted on 10/23/2003 6:09:42 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: JackRyanCIA; mhking
I knew a guy once that wanted to be stylish, he wore pink shirts and solid green ties, never knew how silly he looked. Some people just have to draw attention to themselves.

Now, now. No need to make it personal (your second attempt).

Pink and green, eh? He'd get along with my wife. Those are her sorority colors.


60 posted on 10/23/2003 6:11:01 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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