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Chuck Baldwin Asks Christians, "Is President Bush Really One of Us?"
Chuck Baldwin Ministries ^ | 10-24-03 | Baldwin, Chuck

Posted on 10/23/2003 2:21:49 PM PDT by Theodore R.

Is President Bush Really "One Of Us?"

By Chuck Baldwin

Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon

October 24, 2003 As Jimmy Carter had done before him, G.W. Bush won the White House, in part, due to his Christian profession. Christians nationwide regard President Bush as "one of us." They believe that he shares their Christian principles and values.

Why, then, does President Bush use the power of his office to publicly condemn those Christians who courageously champion Christian principles? Time and again, President Bush has publicly repudiated the statements or actions of principled Christians as they attempted to stand for their convictions.

Back in 2002, Bush publicly chastised a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Rev. Jerry Vines, for his truthful remarks regarding Islam. Vines said, "Islam is not just as good as Christianity." He also rightly said, "Allah is not Jehovah." These remarks brought a swift and stern rebuke from the White House.

Likewise, when Jerry Falwell suggested that the terrorist attacks in 2001 may have been God's judgment upon America (they very well could have been), the White House immediately pronounced its vehement disagreement and displeasure. Dr. Falwell quickly apologized.

However, the most egregious example of Bush's animosity toward outspoken Christians is his handling of the Judge Roy Moore case in Alabama. Not only did President Bush publicly condemn Judge Moore, he either sent or allowed his chief political consultant Karl Rove to spearhead the attack against him.

While it was the ACLU that initially filed the legal case against Judge Moore, it was the White House that was willing to feed Judge Moore to the wolves by the surreptitious, behind-the-scenes maneuverings of Rove.

It was Karl Rove who managed the campaign of Judge Moore's principal opponent in the race for Supreme Court Chief Justice. Furthermore, it appears that Rove is privately managing Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor's prosecution of Judge Moore with the goal of putting Pryor on the federal bench. And now another outspoken Christian patriot is in the Bush crosshairs. His name is Lt. Gen. William Boykin.

In speeches before Christian gatherings, General Boykin committed a cardinal breach of political correctness by affirming that America is "a Christian nation." He also rightly observed that many Muslim terrorists hate America because we are a Christian nation. Predictably, these remarks have brought out the ire and chastisement of President Bush.

After learning of the general's remarks, Bush quickly appeared before a Muslim audience in Indonesia and soundly rebuked his statements. He said, "He (General Boykin) didn't reflect my opinion. Look, it (Boykin's remarks) just doesn't reflect what the (U.S.) government thinks."

By Bush's own words, he doesn't believe America is a Christian nation. Beyond that, he chose to stand alongside Muslims overseas when rebuking a Christian Army general who is proudly and faithfully serving his country and his Commander-in-Chief. It is painfully obvious that President Bush is willing to sacrifice any and all Christian patriots on the altar of political correctness.

It is one thing for President Bush to constantly distance himself from Christian convictions and doctrines. He wouldn't be the first President to do so. It is quite another thing, however, for Christians throughout America to continue to give him a pass for his many foibles under the charade that he is "one of us."

© Chuck Baldwin


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: boykin; bush; bushandgod; carter; christianity; falwell; jerryvines; muslims; persecution; politicalcorrectness; pryor; rove; roymoore; williamboykink
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To: MississippiMan
Out of all the allegations made, interesting that you choose to challenge the most obscure example mentioned.

Yeah. Ain't it neat how Chuckie can slander three men at once? With no proof? Just an accusation that Chuck likely pulled out of his ample butt.

Bush regularly takes anti-Christian stands, period.

List a few.

21 posted on 10/23/2003 2:55:49 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: Theodore R.
read later
22 posted on 10/23/2003 2:55:59 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: MississippiMan
Can you post a link to the PBA bill? If what you're saying is true... holy smokes...
23 posted on 10/23/2003 3:01:33 PM PDT by Ferret Fawcet ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the Right, but a fool's heart...to the Left" ~Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Theodore R.
Is Chuck Baldwin related to Alec Baldwin?
24 posted on 10/23/2003 3:02:07 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Theodore R.
"Render unto Caesar". Sorry but the Constitution is Caesar.
25 posted on 10/23/2003 3:03:19 PM PDT by Starstruck
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To: Impeach the Boy
Question from AMERICANS to Baldwin: Are YOU one of us?

LORD as my witness, I was about to post the same thing.

Remember, this is the same man who wrote "Is Bush the Antichrist?"


26 posted on 10/23/2003 3:08:22 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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To: Starstruck
However, I am ready to give him a pass on these items but NEVER if he passes an amnesty bill.

I am very conservative and support any amnesty bills. America is a nation of immigrants who deserve a chance just as our forefathers did.

If Bush passes an amnesty bill future generations will be blessed with conservative leadership. It's a smart thing to do, plain and simple.

27 posted on 10/23/2003 3:10:28 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Impeach the Boy
That's a great question, but I'd never pose it to him. To do so would mean that I give a rat's rear end about his opinion. Which I don't.
28 posted on 10/23/2003 3:10:34 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: Theodore R.
hell, by that definition I'm not a Christian...

29 posted on 10/23/2003 3:23:36 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
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To: mgist
I am very conservative and support any amnesty bills. America is a nation of immigrants who deserve a chance just as our forefathers did.

If Bush passes an amnesty bill future generations will be blessed with conservative leadership. It's a smart thing to do, plain and simple.

Quick! Don your best asbestos suit!

You're gonna need it...


30 posted on 10/23/2003 3:23:40 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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To: rdb3
What is that supposed to mean?
31 posted on 10/23/2003 3:36:49 PM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist
What is that supposed to mean?

It means that you are going to get flamed for supporting amnesty. That might as well be a curse word around here.


32 posted on 10/23/2003 3:40:32 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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To: Theodore R.
Chuck Balwin is a useful idiot of the anti-christian, anti-God forces.

Bush is a good, god-fearing, Bible reading, on-the-knees praying, decent man.

For Balwin to attack him like this is just pathetic.

I remember Chuckles the Clown wondering in a column whether Bush was the Anti-Christ.

"Your honor, I rest my case"
33 posted on 10/23/2003 3:42:23 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: rdb3
You're right. I've been flamed before. I just want want to get a point across. Conservatives have to be carefull with this issue.
34 posted on 10/23/2003 3:43:15 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Theodore R.
Look at all the trouble you started, dumbass. :~)
36 posted on 10/23/2003 4:08:31 PM PDT by verity
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To: mgist
"I am very conservative and support any amnesty bills. America is a nation of immigrants who deserve a chance just as our forefathers did.

If Bush passes an amnesty bill future generations will be blessed with conservative leadership. It's a smart thing to do, plain and simple."

MY forefathers did not come here ILLEGALLY and sponge off the American taxpayer, destroy the health care system in this country, destroy the educational system in this country, murder American citizens and get away with it by fleeing back to Mexico and on and on and on. If passing an amnesty bill is "conservative leadership" then I'm Bill Gates. If he passes ANY amnesty bill, all it proves is that he is a traitor and that he wants to see America and all of her citizens either destroyed or harmed in so many ways that there will no longer be an America. There may still be a country called "America" but it sure as hell won't be the America that I have lived in and loved.
37 posted on 10/23/2003 4:14:17 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: Ferret Fawcet
From the bill...
the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which--

`(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother...


There's the problem. A partial-birth abortion does not require the entire head to be outside the mother's body, rather only enough to get at the back of the skull in a manner that allows the hideous procedure to be performed.

As this bill reads, as long as any portion of the child's head is still inside the mother's body, the same procedure will still be just as legal as it was. I've read several articles which stated that pro-life medical experts tried to get this language changed, to no avail. Ask yourself WHY language like this would be in the bill. If the goal is to ban partial-birth abortion, really ban it, then the language should be something like this...

the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which-- `(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, any portion of the fetal head is outside the body of the mother...

That would truly ban the procedure, unlike the one that just passed, which lets politicians claim they did something, while in reality nothing has changed. Partial-birth abortion is just as legal as it was.

BTW, does your handle imply that you have ferrets?

MM

38 posted on 10/23/2003 4:50:17 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
We waited three years to get this??!! Back then I thought it was a sop to keep us calm, & voting Republican, a while longer. Now it appears to be a mini-sop.
39 posted on 10/23/2003 5:23:54 PM PDT by Dahlseide (I am a single issue voter, I vote pro-life from dog-catcher to President)
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To: JackRyanCIA; mgist
Not when they come here illegally dumb ass!

Excuse me, Mr. Ryan, but those words were not mine. I was responding to post #27 by mgist.

So you owe me an apology for the "dumb ass" comment, no?


40 posted on 10/23/2003 5:24:24 PM PDT by rdb3 (We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
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