Posted on 10/21/2003 4:32:56 PM PDT by beckett
Cases like the one you describe are difficult, and I don't have all the right answers. What I would say, however, are that there is a major fundamental difference between ordering that someone be rescued from a condition stemming from natural causes, from accidental causes, or from deliberate causes. I think it entirely reasonable that a governor be given more authority over cases in which an imminently-fatal condition is the result of deliberate action than one in which the fatal condition is not the result of deliberate action.
BTW, on a related note: is a DNR binding on someone upon whom a murder attempt has been made?
Thanks for clearing that up. It's my understanding that once someone is made guardian they pretty much can do whatever they want and the courts go along with it. So once Schiavo got himself appointed Terri's guardian the family had nothing to say. That's the principle of law the judge has been so determined to uphold, apparently. But in this case the conflict of interest seems so obvious that there should have been a permanent guardian ad litem. The judge ruled there was no conflict of interest, however, and no need for a continuing guardian ad litem and it's been a battle for the family ever since. The average person probably couldn't imagine that the law - and a judge - could stray so far from common sense yet it did and it does.
I just had a feeling in my gut earlier today that Terri may be just one of many people Felos and Greer have conspired to kill. I don't think it was a lack of common sense that caused Judge Greer to declare no conflict of interest existed; I suspect he himself had a major conflict of interest.
I would have loved to seen Terri's face when she learned the news that she was being moved to a real hospital to be cared for.
If they want to take it to the ability to feed one's self, quadraplegics are next.
Such is the onward and relentless march of the culture of death.
I wonder if the doctors, family, etc., are still bound by Greer's order not to "feed that girl?"
YES!
Should Jeb allow the husband to speak as her guardian?
NO! In any instance where preserving life is concerned the choice should always be LIFE.
I'm not Catholic and I don't agree with Catholic beliefs on some points, but I believe Catholic doctrine is exactly right on the issue of the sanctity of human life. IMHO the most admirable virtue of Pope John Paul has been his unwavering support for life and his denunciation of the Satanic cult of death which has come to permeate modern western society.
I'm afraid if that good man in his present physical state was under the jurisdiction of Judge Greer and his fellow black-robed ghouls he would be in dire peril of being starved to death.
Then Bob, it was more than worth the fight. God bless you and give you rest from this battle...
COOL
A judge is required to appoint a guardian ad litem for any ward whose guardian's interests might conflict with the ward's. A guardian ad litem was appointed for Terri, but Judge Greer allowed Felos to fire him when the guardian ad litem had the audacity to suggest that Felos' actions were contrary to Terri's interests. Since then, Judge Greer has refused to allow a guardian ad litem to represent Terri.
Other posts have noted that Felos has not properly filed required financial disclosures regarding Terri's trust fund. A guardian ad litem would have standing to demand that such disclosures be filed, and to look at them. The judge would also have such standing to make such a demand or examination on his own. Nobody else has standing to make such filings if the judge refuses to do so. I suppose it's conceivable that Felos' failure to file the reports was simply an innocent mistake, but I personally don't believe that. I believe that Felos and Schiavo's desire for unsupervised access to the 'cookie jar' was for the purpose of raiding it. If that is so, that would imply conspiracy to commit embezzlement on their parts. Further, since Judge Greer refused to appoint a guardian ad litem, he was legally required to monitor Terri's trust. His failure to do so, and refusal to allow anyone else to do so, strongly suggests conspiracy.
If Judge Greer was aware of any mismanagement in Terri's trust fund, he would also have been aware that in the event that any new guardian or guardian ad litem were ever appointed, such discrepancies would come out and his malfeasance in the matter would be discovered. Since the only Terri could be forever prevented from getting a new guardian or guardian ad litem would be her death, that would suggest a criminal motive for wanting Terri dead.
I don't know what the laws are with regard to a judge's immunity for legal consequences from his decisions, but I'm pretty certain that they don't hold in cases where a judge has a conflict of interest as large as this one. Judge Greer did attempt to by his actions have Terri Schiavo killed. If there's any funny business in Terri's trust fund, that would imply criminal motive. Attempting to kill someone with criminal motive is virtually the definition of attempted murder.
YES!
Is such fluid draining a procedure which will never, under any circumstance, cause harm to a person? If not, it would seem that the governor would be called upon to make a medical decision.
Michael's whole basis for having Terri killed was his claim that she wouldn't want to live "connected to tubes like that" or something to that effect. While Terri shouldn't be killed regardless, I noted (whether or not I was the first) and others followed up upon the fact that Michael had to prevent any evidence from being discovered that Terri could swallow, since such discovery would render moot his particular excuse for murdering his wife.
Yes.
I've been following the inbelievable events of this evening on THIS THREAD ... check it out.
Thank God...and thank Him for Terri's parents, the Governor, the legislature who voted on Terri's behalf, Bob Marshall, and so many countless others all over this nation who are praying, faxing, emailing, writing, standing vigil.
...thank God for the power of activism, prayer, and mst importantly, for the power of love. Terri's parents loved her and have literally saved her life with God's help and the influence of literally millions who have been touched by her story.
Experiences like this can give us all great hope...the Arm of God, the Hand of Providance is intervening in this affair as a result.
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