UFO still puzzles 30 years later (Coyne Incident)

Mansfield Journal ^ | 10/18/2003 | Russ Kent

[SteveH]

MANSFIELD -- Thirty years ago tonight, strange things were happening in the skies over north central Ohio.

A close encounter in Mansfield, that has since become known as "The Coyne Incident," is still raising eyebrows among believers and UFO investigators.

[AppyPappy]

I only need one. There is no physical evidence they exist.

[AppyPappy]

Or the power of people to believe something with no evidence to prove it exists.

[MHGinTN]

Location of and vicinity of some of the largest cities of 1500 to 2000 years ago ... caught our civilization acts on the way to soemwhere else, so they stopped back by on the return trip to check our progress, just for the fun of it, don'tcha know.

[Quix]

There have actually been quite a number of impossible to difficult to explain photos, videos etc. But, they get lost in the very effective disinformation campaign.

Ah well, if Werner Von Braun was correct in his declaration that after the Soviets playing their bad guy role; followed by terrorism as a world scare followed by a war with Iraq would come a war against ET's . . .

then we should be getting closer to a wholesale shift in reality as we have known it in the public area.

This year? Next year? Not too distant, I think.

[Quix]

No trouble at all believing your assertions.

[Jim Cane]

The only way you can prove it isn't a hoax is to produce some ET's.

How silly. I don't have to produce ETs in order to prove that no hoax was involved when Brazilian scientists took pictures of a large, non-Jane's craft which was also witnessed by the crew of the ship they were on.

The fallacy of your argument works thus: The only way you can prove it isn't snowing is to produce some coconuts.

[Quix]

Imagine, if you are able,

that your most trusted relative asserted very forthrightly that he'd worked around UFO's for an extended period of time in the Nevada region often referred to as Area 51.

Given that you'd found him truthful on all other matters your whole life, you'd disbelieve him, of course?

I chose to believe him, in my case. Though I admit, I had plenty of other rather reliable evidence in my dozens of years of studying the topic.

[Protagoras]

Why would aliens choose Mexico City of all places?

They are the same as US companies, looking for cheap labor.

[Quix]

Your affinity for a TYPE II error over a TYPE I error continues to amaze me.

[AppyPappy]

Then he or you would be able to produce some physical evidence of a UFO.

[AppyPappy]

Found any evidence yet?

[RightWhale]

The strongest evidence is a bunch of retired folks with a lot of spare time on their hands.

[Quix]

APPYPAPPY: Then he or you would be able to produce some physical evidence of a UFO.

Qx: Are you serious? Are you awake?

He went to his job parking in a very distant parking lot. I don't recall if he was bussed in a buss with windows TO the airport or not. The plane prevented views from the windows too. At the job end of the flight, the bus did have blackened windows. There was no discussion allowed with any other personnel on the bus.

And in that situation in such a high security location . . .

you are blithely [to be charitable] asserting he's going to STEAL pieces of said UFO's and produce them for his relative to view???

Uhhhhh your skills at assessment and analysis of a situation and topic have just been tarnished wholesale.

[Joe Hadenuf]

LOL!

[Jim Cane]

Or the power of people to believe something with no evidence to prove it exists.

In the case of UFO's there is evidence. It may not be "dead corpse" evidence, but the photographic, physical trace and witness testimony shows a preponderance (in legal terms) towards the phenomena having a nutzenboltz reality behind it. One deserving further scrutiny and study, rather than sneering dismissal.

[AppyPappy]

All of which can be fabricated. And it has been fabricated in some cases. All we need is physical evidence. It's been 50 years and still no physical evidence.

[auggy]

Now, that's enough of that, KevinDavis.

[Quix]

AppyPappy conveniently avoided answering my query as asked.

In my experience, there are MANY in the hostile-to-UFO's position who have a DEEPLY, INTENSELY HELD biases and/or constructions on reality which would suffer fairly wholesale collapse were UFO's to be proven.

Others are just narrow, rigid, stubborn old codgers who aren't about to allow for a reality they haven't yet wrapped their minds and permission around.

[Quix]

Your assertions come across as exceedingly ignorant for anyone with a fair-minded extensive study background in the area.

For one, read the implant book I cited above.

[Bon mots]

I did see something strange one night I think it was in 96. I was looking up in the sky and I saw a triangle. Than I saw the top go down. The lights wasn't flashing or anything like that. It was just plain odd. Was it a UFO, I don't know.

Was it a UFO? Definitely.
Was it piloted by beings from another planet? That is another question. Who knows?