AL-QAEDA SUICIDE WILLS APPEAR ON NEW AL-QAEDA WEBSITE

SITE Institute ^ | 10/19/2003 | SITE Institute Staff

[tubavil]

SITE Institute,10/19/2003 - The SITE Institute has tracked a new al-Qaeda website airing an unseen videotape of some of the bombers involved in the May 12, 2003, car bombings in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, in which 25 people were killed. Amazingly, after speaking entirely in Arabic, two of the al-Qaeda bombers address the camera in English, threatening Americans. It appears to be the first time an al-Qaeda fighter reads some portions of his will in English.

Ashraf bin Ibrahim al-Sayye, made the following threats in English:

?For the American soldiers, we say, ?You have to know that your government has become a big evil, killing innocent people, destroying homes, stealing our money, and holding our sons in jail. We promise that we will not let you live safely, and you?ll not see from us anything else just [sic] bombs, fire, destroying homes, cutting your heads. Our mujahideen is [sic] coming to you very soon to let you see what you didn?t see before.??

Another bomber, Mohammed bin Abdel Wahab al-Muqayet, stated also in English:

"I invite you to accept Islam?and you will be my brother in Islam. And it doesn't matter what your nationality or your color [sic]. After you accept Islam, if any enemy attacked you, I will do what I can even if it cost [sic] my life to save you. We want for all Christians and Jews to go out from our Islamic countries and release our brothers from jails [sic]. And stop killing Muslims, or we will kill you??

More than an hour long, the videotape is produced by the al-Qaeda production company, al-Eshab. The tape shows each of the suicide bombers reading his will and pledging his support to Osama bin Laden, which includes short clips of bin Laden speaking. The tape?s speakers promise victory to Islam and affirm the goal of cleaning the Arab peninsula from all the Christians and the Jews by carrying out attacks against them everywhere.

The tape also airs chilling audio clips of al-Qaeda fighters attacking American and British forces in Iraq, chanting ?Allahu Akbar?.

For further information, please contact the SITE Institute.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I'll wait for the video.
"When 12th Century Illiterates Attack!"

[Coop]

Something is brewing.

Something is always brewing with these evil nutjobs. A lot of times their plans are messed up by our forces and allies, but sometimes unfortunately they succeed. No need worrying about it needlessly. While these tapes and website may be a bit unnerving, they're better than silence. They probably do provide some valuable intelligence on occasion.

[DianaN]

Yeah, right; I just bet their little demonstration was meant to be "peaceful". Any idiot knows the message of these religious extremists is far from "peaceful".

It reminds me of the excuse certain Arabs made in regard to the murderous situation within Israel; ' We, can't attack the terrorists. If we attack the terrorists, we'll be embroiled in a civil war'. My answer is so what; at least if these criminals are murdering each other they won't be murdering so many innocent people.

[DianaN]

While all threats must certainly be taken seriously, especially by those tasked with our protection, all of us can do well to remember that one of the terrorist's missions is to terrorize. They can take no more from us than we from the (unless we let them); in truth, we have the ability to take much more from them.

A Side note to researchers and interested parties:

The hunting of Christian Smyrna is reported to have began on a September 11th. Also, there was another infamous date called "Black September". Therefore it's certainly not an impossibility that the heads of Al Qaida (Al Qa'eda-and every other spelling variant) look for dates of religious or vengeful significance to them and their religion on which to implement any large attacks upon American soil.

We, as well as they, can remember that we face no less than them: our death one day. At least we can go forward knowing that we fight the "good fight"; we fight in the name of freedom; they legitimately make no such claim.

I think they, their political supporters and their financiers will make the biggest mistake of their lives (and their friends and loved ones lives) in they ever attack this nation on it's own soil, en masse, again.

Tick off some terrorists; Have a great unfearful day here in the land of the free and the brave!

[Cindy]

re post no. 20... I research the news (both domestic and foreign) everyday. It's a hobby you might say. While I do agree with you that ANY terrorism/terrorists or any group who advocates future terrorist acts should be scrutinized; the fact is that the Aryan nation did not commit the September 11, 2001 attacks. They aren't found right now on the FBI's list of "Most Wanted Terrorists" nor are they found on the FBI's "Seeking Information - War on Terrorism." See the links listed below.

All domestic criminals/gang bangers/assorted terrorists do have the potential to be just as bad if not worse as the AL-QAEDA terrorists we have been discussing here; but right now, on this thread and in the news -- Al Qaeda and other Middle East-related terrorists are the ones making the headlines.

Here are some randon links you may find helpful in understanding the comments I just posted.

FBI.gov - War On Terrorism: "SEEKING INFORMATION - War on Terrorism" (Read More...)

FBI.gov: "MOST WANTED TERRORISTS" (Read More...)

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE - Public Announcement: "WORLDWIDE CAUTION" (September 26, 2003) (Read More...)

WorldNetDaily.com: "UNCLE SAM WANTS YOU -- TO SHOOT DOWN MISSILES Pentagon Solicits Ideas on Best Plan to Protect America" (October 19, 2003) (Read More...)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "AL QAEDA PURSUED A 'DIRTY BOMB'" by Bill Gertz (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Adnan El Shukrijumah is being sought by the FBI and CIA in connection with a plot to detonate a dirty bomb -- a conventional explosive laced with radioactive material.") (October 17, 2003) (Read More...)

FBI.gov - Seeking Information: "ADNAN G. EL SHUKRIJUMAH" (View Photos;Read More...)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "FEDS: VIRGINIA-BASED NETWORK FUNDED TERROR" (October 18, 2003) (Read More...)

WTOP.com (AP): "MULTI-DAY DRILL IN VIRGINIA TO TEST READINESS FOR TERROR ATTACK" (October 18, 2003) (Read More...)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com (AP): "SAUDI ARABIA IS HIRING LAWYERS TO REPRESENT ITS TERROR SUSPECTS" (October 19, 2003) (Read More...)

CNN.com - Law Center: "SAUDI PRINCES SEEK IMMUNITY AGAINST 9/11 LAWSUITS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Lawyers representing two Saudi princes argued Friday that their clients have immunity from lawsuits relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, because they are diplomatic officials.") (October 17, 2003) (Read More...)

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA! (UPDATED DAILY.) (Read More...)

BRAIN-TERMINAL.com: "WHEN PROTESTERS ATTACK" (Online Video) (October 11, 2003) (Published October 19, 2003) (View now.)

BRAIN-TERMINAL.com: "WHEN PROTESTERS ATTACK Chillin' With The Palestinians" by Evan Coyne Maloney (October 11, 2003) (Published October 16, 2003) (Read More...)

On The Net...InternationalAnswer.org

TOWNHALL.com: "PALESTINIAN TERRORISM, AMERICAN BLOOD" -Guest Column by Jeff Jacoby (October 20, 2003)

MEMRI.org - MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE Special Dispatch Series - No. 592: "IRAQI DAILY: SADDAM ORDERED TRAINING OF AL-QA'IDA" (October 18, 2003) (Read More...)

On The Net...English.ALJAZEERA.net - NEWS - Arab World: "FULL TEXT OF THE MESSAGE Usama bin Ladin has issued a message to the American people, broadcast on Saturday on Aljazeera television. A full and exclusive translation follows:") (October 17, 2003)

On The Net...English.ALJAZEERA.net - NEWS - Arab World: "AL-QAIDA VOWS ANTI-US ATTACKS Al-Qaida Number Two Ayman al-Zawahri has called on Iraqis to "devour" their American occupiers") (September 10, 2003)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): OFFICIALS: BIN LADEN AIDE ESCAPED PAKISTAN RAID" (ARTICLE NOTE: Ahmad Said al-Kadr is "a top associate of Usama bin Laden.") (October 17, 2003) (Read More...)

NATIONAL POST.com (A Part of CANADA.com): "MUSLIM GROUPS EULOGIZE KHADR But Some Say Death Might Have Been Staged Using a Decoy" by Stewart Bell (October 15, 2003) (Read More...)

[Cindy]

re post no. 23:

"Peaceful." (/sarcasm off)

[freedom moose]

the videotape is produced by the al-Qaeda production company, al-Eshab

that's really weird

[Cindy]

GOOGLE Search Term: "al-Eshab"
no results

GOOGLE Search Term: "ESHAB"
http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22Eshab%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

[Valin]

While I do agree with you that ANY terrorism/terrorists or any group who advocates future terrorist acts should be scrutinized; the fact is that the Aryan nation did not commit the September 11, 2001 attacks. They aren't found right now on the FBI's list of "Most Wanted Terrorists" nor are they found on the FBI's "Seeking Information - War on Terrorism."

True but it's the same underlying ideas. The idea that it's ok, even mandated to kill people who are different than us.
(Not sure if I've put this right, there's a disconnect between what's in my (so called) brain and what comes out in my writing)

[Cindy]

re your post no. 29...

I'm not sure if you will be able to understand this and this is my last post to you on the subject. So for whatever it's worth, I'll put this as simply as possible.

America is fighting terrorism. Period.
There is no hidden agenda.
AMERICA IS FIGHTING TERRORISM.
It's that simple.

[Charlie OK]

We promise that we will not let you live safely, and you?ll not see from us anything else just [sic] bombs, fire, destroying homes, cutting your heads.

BUMP!

[tubavil]

Most excellent catch!!!

[tubavil]

We promise that we will not let you live safely, and you?ll not see from us anything else just [sic] bombs, fire, destroying homes, cutting your heads.

Let's not forget the specific refernce to "destroying homes."

What's the total in CA now 1100+ ????

[Charlie OK]

I can't take credit. Someone whom I have forgotten their name directed me to this post. I just bumped it ttt.

[Toskrin]

Thanks for the post. It's all coming together now. Al Qaeda leadership is made up of message board trolls...

[Travis McGee]

"I invite you to accept Islam and you will be my brother in Islam. And it doesn't matter what your nationality or your color. After you accept Islam, if any enemy attacked you, I will do what I can even if it cost my life to save you. We want for all Christians and Jews to go out from our Islamic countries and release our brothers from jails. And stop killing Muslims, or we will kill you."

We're going to find out, sooner or later,

If Abdul will pray, to a smoking crater.

[txhurl]

I wonder what the 'cutting your heads' might refer to.

Somebody gets their head cut off, I really expect to see one big parking lot go up in the ME.

[tubavil]

The full quote is: "We promise that we will not let you live safely, and you'll not see from us anything else just [sic] bombs, fire, destroying homes, cutting your heads. Our mujahideen is [sic] coming to you very soon to let you see what you didn't see before."

Points:

1. SITE published this on the 19th. The fires started a few days later.
2. "we promise that we will not let you live safely" - where do we live but in our homes?
3. Exact adjacent references to "fire" and "destroying homes."
4. "coming to you very soon" - self explanatory.
5. "to let you see what you didn't see before." - the fire and destruction in muslim Iraq.

TEN OF THE FIRES ARE CONSIDERED ARSON.

[Sabertooth]

They are building up to something.

Bin Ladens tape yesterday ........then today these tapes place on the internet...someone is whipping up the troops.

I wonder if we are picking up an increase in the chatter.

Something is brewing.

Hope no one minds, but I'm going to be spamming this around a bit.
This Ramadan has great significance in Islamic eschatology...

 
Eclipses during Ramadan
by David L. McNaughton
In "Hamdard Islamicus" (Karachi, Pakistan), vol. XIX no. 1 (Spring 1996): pp. 81-86.

Double Eclipses during Ramadan

Sometimes a Ramadan will contain a solar and a lunar eclipse. That inevitably provokes comment, because of traditions that such a "double-eclipse" is a portent for some unusual event. Ithna'asheri Shi'ites, for example, believe that their Twelfth Imam will reappear after a Ramadan double-eclipse (although those two phenomena will supposedly take place in reverse order, with the solar one occurring in mid-month (5); that will require the moon to suddenly double its speed of movement after the onset of the Holy Month!)

In March/April 1894 (Ramadan 1311), Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (founder of the Ahmadiyya or Qadiani movement in Pakistan) interpreted a double-eclipse as a sign that he was a genuine modern-day prophet (6). The lunar eclipse during that particular month was only partial, although the solar one two weeks later was total in a few places in eastern Asia (7). However, there was nothing at all extraordinary about those two eclipses: every 22 or 23 Islamic years there is at least one Ramadan featuring a pair of eclipses two weeks apart (8) - one of which is usually partial; see Table 1.

Very much rarer is a Ramadan containing two total eclipses.

Table 2 lists all such occasions since AH 1, as well as during the next 200 years (9); (its solar eclipses are all central, with annular ones also included).

It will be interesting to see whether the two total eclipses scheduled to occur during Ramadan 1424 (AD November 2003) - are cited to support a claim similar to that made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, or as proof of thesignificance of some extraordinary event.

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Table 2

Ramadans with two central eclipses

LUNAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOLAR

AH . . AD . . . . . . . . . . Date . . . Where visible . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Date . . .Where visible

.283 . .896 . . . . . . . ..29 Oct . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 12 Nov . Canada; Alaska;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(25 Oct) . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(8 Nov) . NE Pacific

.305 . .918 . . . . . . . . .5 Mar . . Eurasia; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Mar . .Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Feb) .NE Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (15 Mar) . .Indian Ocean

.462 . 1070 . . . . . . . . .2 Jul . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . . .16 Jul . . .Arctic; Siberia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(26 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(10 Jul)

.529 . 1135 . . . . . . . . . 4 Jul . . .America; Pacific; . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 Jul . . .Antarctic; far
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (27 Jun) . New Zealand . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(12 Jul) . . .south Pacific

.596 . 1200 . . . . . . . . . 5 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . *19 Jul . Siberia; Arctic;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (12 Jul) . . NW Atlantic

1200 . 1786 . . . . . . . . .11 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 25 Jul . . South Africa &
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . adjacent oceans

1424 .2003. . . . . . . . .9 Nov. . .Europe; SW Asia; . . . . . . . . . .23 Nov . Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Africa; America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Indian Ocean

1580 . 2155 . . . . . . . . .9 Mar . . Europe; Africa; . . . . . . . . . . . . .*2 Apr . .China; Russia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kashmir; Mongolia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .Afghanistan

Notes for Table 2

Central lunar eclipses are always total.

*The central solar eclipses listed above are total unless asterisked - in which case they are annular.

Dates apply to the instant of maximum eclipse.

Extrapolated Gregorian dates are given even on occasions when the old Julian calendar was in operation;
the corresponding Julian date is then shown below in brackets.

A Google search on ramadan mahdi eclipse yielded 243 results.

A Google search on ramadan mehdi eclipse (alternate "mahdi" spelling) yielded 83 results.

[kallisti]

i got the director's chair with the logo on the back.