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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Here is a brief description of Ann's hero:

The press revolted as well, with Edward Murrow of early television fame showing plain, unedited clips from the hearings to show the fraud in McCarthy.

Over the span of thirty-six days, there were thirty-two witnesses, 71 half-day sessions, 187 hours of TV air time, 100,000 live observers, and two million words of testimony.19 Joe kept up his attacks, which gradually weakened. Every day, millions of TV sets showed McCarthy pointing his finger yet again at another man. McCarthy was obviously slipping, but he didn't give up. Then, when he was attacking an associate of Joseph N. Welch, chief attorney for the Army, Welch stood up, faced the senator, and said:

Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you no sense of decency?

And with that, the hearings ended, and so did McCarthy's witch hunting career. On December 2, 1954, the senate voted 67-22 to condemn him for "conduct contrary to Senatorial traditions." The condemnation—only the third one in 165 years—noted the abuse of his Senatorial powers. After the condemnation, he tried to pass a few of bills written by him, but most senators didn't approve these, probably to avoid association with the "worst senator". He had lost his honor, and rightly so.

McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country. Why Ann can't figure this out is puzzling.

Source of the excerpt: http://mccarthy.cjb.net/

41 posted on 10/19/2003 1:55:56 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
Did you read "Treason"? Coulter writes at length on the Noble Joseph N Welch and his phony posturing. That out of context clip of The Noble Joseph N Welch is just about all any modern day person ever sees of the "McCarthy era". GET THE BOOK!
46 posted on 10/19/2003 2:07:06 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Semper
I somehow doubt those clips were "unedited", but perhaps that's because I've seen firsthand the techniques of the press for the last 3 decades+, and can't imagine them doing it any other way.
47 posted on 10/19/2003 2:11:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Semper
Here is a brief description of Ann's hero...
...written by a typical McCarthy-basher.
Your post reflects the "truth" which has been taken as gospel by many - on both the left AND right, until Ann's new book.
Until you are able to read "Treasson" - here is a small taste of her argument, from:

I dare call it treason (SLAMMING LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS BUT GOOD) (Ann Coulter)
World Net Daily ^ | 6/25/2003 | Ann Coulter
Posted on 06/25/2003 4:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

I DARE CALL IT TREASON

BY ANN COULTER

The myth of "McCarthyism" is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times. Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. The portrayal of Sen. Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren't hiding under the bed during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation's ability to defend itself, while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy's name. Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals to hide their own collaboration with a regime as evil as the Nazis. As Whittaker Chambers said: "[I]nnocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does."

At the time, half the country realized liberals were lying. But after a half century of liberal myth-making, even the disgorging of Soviet and American archives half a century later could not overcome their lies. In 1995, the U.S. government released its cache of Soviet cables that had been decoded during the Cold War in a top-secret undertaking known as the Venona Project. The cables proved the overwhelming truth of McCarthy's charges. Naturally, therefore, the release of decrypted Soviet cables was barely mentioned by the New York Times. It might have detracted from stories of proud and unbowed victims of "McCarthyism." They were not so innocent after all, it turns out.

Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. He was tilting at an authentic communist conspiracy that had been laughed off by the Democratic Party...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

59 posted on 10/19/2003 2:28:39 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Semper
Have you read Coulter's "Treason?"
60 posted on 10/19/2003 2:30:15 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Semper
"when he was attacking an associate of Joseph N. Welch, chief attorney for the Army, Welch stood up, faced the senator, and said:
Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you no sense of decency?"

That associate was a member of the Lawyers Guild, long known to be the legal arm of the Communist Party in America. McCarthy's mistake was stooping to the level of Welch right after Welch had just smeared Roy Cohn (McCarthy's researcher) for the hundreth time during those hearings. This incident has been replayed and written of out of context for so long most people believe Welch was some sort of patriot, when in fact he was grandstanding for the media. The only people lacking a sense of decency that year were Emmy Award nominators for overlooking Welch's performance (if they had Emmys then).

Ed Murrow was in on the hatchet job as well and was not the saintly knight-protector of fairness today's media portrays him as.

Please read Ms. Coulter's book and look up references for yourself.

65 posted on 10/19/2003 2:36:19 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (The support group for Democrat Craniorectal Syndrome has been cancelled.)
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To: Semper
"McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country. Why Ann can't figure this out is puzzling.

Source of the excerpt: http://mccarthy.cjb.net/"

You didn't have to work to hard to come up with the few paragraphs that you linked us to. It bills itself as the "Home of the net's most popular report on Joe McCarthy."

It doesn't claim to be the most accurate. By the way, did you check out that site thoroughly. The guy is VERY "out there...

Do what several other people have suggested and read Ann's book. I did, and it amazed me how many "facts" have been twisted by the media that hated McCarthy.

69 posted on 10/19/2003 2:47:36 PM PDT by rohry
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To: Semper
"McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country."

I think you have McCarthy mixed up with Ted Kennedy.
111 posted on 10/19/2003 4:45:04 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: Semper
Interesting post. What are you saying McCarthy did in your excerpt? He "attacked" someone during hearings? With words? So what? What did McCarthy do that was so evil? I really want to know.
121 posted on 10/19/2003 5:31:14 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: Semper
"McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country. Why Ann can't figure this out is puzzling"

And your agenda would be?

Fi

132 posted on 10/19/2003 6:12:31 PM PDT by truthandjustice1
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To: Semper
McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country

The Communists definitely used Joe's shortcomings agaist him, and they made damn sure he caught a few of their low-level (embarassingly low-level) operatives along the way.

In that way, they were able to protect those most highly placed. In regard to "Venona," those reports were available for years. They made no impression on anyone on the left then, and they sure as hell don't now. The left's rigid control of information+his own personal problems finished McCarthy off. He was just the wrong guy to be right, at the time.

BTW, one of Joe's biggest backers was St. John of Kennedy, Virgin and Martyr of the Left. If JFK (and his Dad, and his Brothers) liked the guy, why don't you ever read that in the lib rags?

161 posted on 10/19/2003 8:49:16 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Semper
Read the book: Treason. You have been duped by the liberal mediots regarding McCarthy. Nothing you dig up from the internet is going to help you here. Read Ann's book.
181 posted on 10/19/2003 10:32:27 PM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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