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Ann Coulter, Saucy Siren Of The Right, Sounds Off
The Day.com ^ | Published on 10/19/2003 | By FRAZIER MOORE

Posted on 10/19/2003 12:57:49 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner

In her book “Treason,” Ann Coulter lionizes Joseph McCarthy, the 1950s Wisconsin senator, for his holy war against Communist spies in the United States.

Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism By Ann Coulter Crown Forum, $26.95

Ann Coulter rules as the saucy, blond siren of the Right.

Lashing out at all things liberal and Democrat (labels she uses interchangeably), she treats conservative Republicans to a spicy brand of reassurance that has leveraged her into multimedia stardom with talk-TV appearances, a syndicated column and big-selling books with shrill titles.

A year after her successful “Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right,” Coulter carries on with “Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism.” The book already has spent 12 weeks on The New York Times list of best sellers, most recently in seventh place.

But despite bubbling sales and wells of success, Coulter has been faulted for research that is routinely sloppy and facts that are contrived.

“She builds a case on half-truths,” declares Ronald Radosh, a historian and author whom Coulter salutes as a fellow conservative.

“She's a cultural phenomenon,” concedes Joe Conason, a liberal columnist with his own best seller, “Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth.” He adds, “I wouldn't characterize what she puts forward as ideas. They're more in the nature of primitive emotions.”

Bring it on, Coulter responds.

“There are people who would scream bloody murder if I wrote, ‘It's a lovely day outside,”' she says with a satisfied look: People screaming bloody murder about her is great for business.

Continuing to do great business, “Treason” aims to spring Joseph McCarthy from history's gulag as “a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives,” Coulter sums up.

Seizing quite the opposite position, her book lionizes the 1950s Wisconsin senator for his holy war against Communist spies in the United States, a crusade she argues was done in by the soft-on-commies Democratic Party, which has since compounded the outrage by demonizing McCarthy with its “hegemonic control of the dissemination of information and historical fact,” she says between bites of a turkey club.

Writing the book was a mad scramble, Coulter reports during a recent lunch interview. She began “Treason” only last October, “but I worked pretty hard,” she says. “I cut down on TV (appearances). I worked every Friday and Saturday night.”

Veteran journalist and commentator M. Stanton Evans, who is writing a book on the McCarthy era, shared some of his extensive research with Coulter and “went over her manuscript on the McCarthy chapters,” he says. “I can vouch for the facts. Her interpretations are obviously hers. They're obviously meant to be provocative.”

Indeed, Coulter's McCarthy makeover only sets the stage for her wildly provocative main theme: Democrats, always rooting against America, are “the Treason Party,” she explains with throaty conviction.

Democrats have “an outrageous history of shame,” she says, “and they've brushed it all under the rug,” racking up a shameful record that persists to present-day Iraq, where the Democrats, she claims, are hoping for America's comeuppance.

So the broad purpose of “Treason,” says Coulter, “is to alert people, to send out flare lights: Warning, warning! Democrats can't be trusted with national security!”

It's all very simple.

In Coulter's America, everything, it seems, is simple. She reigns over a bipolar realm of either right or wrong; love or hate; smart or idiotic; men or — a Coulter favorite — “girly boys,” a distinction that in her book yields such questions as the language-garbling “Why are liberals so loath of positive testosterone?” as well as “Why can't liberals let men defend the country?” (By men, she means Republicans.)

“Everything isn't black and white,” counters historian Radosh, who has long contended that Communist spies posed an internal threat after World War II. Radosh draws the line at canonizing McCarthy for his blacklisting campaign to flush them out. “But the people who respond to her are people who already agree with her, and they don't want any nuance.”

Just mention nuance to Coulter and she scoffs.

“As opposed to spending 50 years portraying McCarthy as a Nazi?” she says with a scornful laugh. “THAT's a very nuanced portrait! I think it's just meaningless blather, this nuanced business.”

This nuanced business only muddies the issue, she insists, whereas generalizations are, in her view, a simple, get-to-the-heart-of-it way to make a point.

For example: “Gen-er-al-ly,” she says with snide accentuation, “it's not good to play in traffic. Gen-er-al-ly, when your gut feels a certain way, you better hightail it to the bathroom or you'll be wetting your pants.”

But is every registered Democrat automatically liberal, anti-American, godless, a liar and a “girly boy” — plus guilty of treason? That's a generalization Coulter all but states outright in her book, but in the interview has trouble defending.

“Don't worry,” she wants every Democrat to know. “The country doesn't prosecute for treason anymore. If they didn't prosecute Jane Fonda (for visiting the enemy during the Vietnam War), there's no worries there.”

She is lunching at an open-air Upper East Side bistro near the apartment she rents in Manhattan. (Coulter, who is single, makes her primary residence in Miami Beach, Fla. — “lots of Cubans,” she airily explains.)

Though known for her sexy garb (on the cover of “Treason” her twiggy form is sheathed in a sleek black gown), she is dressed down in white jeans and gray T-shirt. She just finished her column. She has hours of radio interviews scheduled later. It's a sunny, breezy day and life is sweet. The only cloud on her horizon, says Coulter, bright-eyed and full of herself, is insufficient time to savor her success.

At 41, Coulter has traveled a well-plotted road from her comfy Republican upbringing in New Canaan to Cornell University in upstate New York, then law school at the University of Michigan.

She worked for the Center for Individual Rights, a Washington, D.C.-based conservative public policy group, then took a job with Spencer Abraham, the current Energy Secretary who then was a U.S. senator from Michigan.

In the mid-1990s, she signed onto a project to investigate alleged wrongdoings by President and Mrs. Clinton, which in 1998 led to “High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton,” Coulter's first best seller.

From there, it was a short step to punditry, where she was well-served by her looks and sharp tongue, winning further notoriety after being fired by MSNBC and National Review Online for her inflammatory remarks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; bookreview; treason
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To: RatSlayer; TalBlack
"If I were a Journalist doing a piece on Coulter and I had Radosh saying what Radosh said I would proceed to get the whole nine yards out of him and then have Coulter answer. I wonder why this did not happen? "

I've read Radosh's book (Commies) as well and he specializes in the Rosenberg's and his transformation from a Commie to an anti-Commie.

He's no conservative and I think he hasn't bothered to re-examine his long held beliefs on McCarthy. After all he was a red diaper baby and was still in in grammar school when McCarthy left the Senate.

I think he just has a vague belief that McCarthy was evil and Ann is wrong.
101 posted on 10/19/2003 4:01:19 PM PDT by rohry
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To: Semper
Semper said:
"There was no "absense of any other evidence"."

So you claim, but we have only seen one specific citation from you (Mr Welch's statement). And I have previously responded about how sorely lacking this piece of evidence is.

RE clinton's impeachment. I have not made any claims as to the evidence against clinton.

I'm going to have to paint with a broad brush here, since you have not yet had a chance to cite specific instances of McCarthy's allegedly unjustified means. But, I am claiming that you and many other people think that you've seem all this damning evidence against McCarthy, but you've never seen the other side of the story, because the other side was NEVER shown on TV. The only place the other side has appeared is in Cohn's book and Ann's book.
102 posted on 10/19/2003 4:03:36 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: FreedomPoster
Ann frequently uses over-the-top hyperbole to hold an ADD audience

I am not part of that audience. I prefer authors who assume that their readers have normal reasoning skills.

103 posted on 10/19/2003 4:07:16 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
"It did not hurt that he [Torrecilli] was of the same political persuasion as 90% of the journalists covering his activities."

Same situation as McCarthy. That was my point exactly!
The press was sitting watching the hearings openly jeering McCarthy and cheering when people attempted to personally attack him and his staff.

Unfortunately, you haven't read the book so this discussion is getting nowhere (no disrespect intended, I just don't feel like posting the whole book to you):)

Hope you research this matter further. Gotta go now...
104 posted on 10/19/2003 4:10:45 PM PDT by rohry
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To: FreedomPoster
Apropos of nothing, here's a link to a Goldberg file about McCarthy that was written before Treason came out: Two Cheers for McCarthyism?

105 posted on 10/19/2003 4:14:47 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: rohry
rohry said:
"He's [Radosh] no conservative and I think he hasn't bothered to re-examine his long held beliefs on McCarthy"

Correct. For example the Rosenburg book was originally supposed to exonerate the Rosenburg's, but Radosh found so much evidense against them (and this was even before Venona) that he couldn't bring himself to lie enough to pull it off, so he had to admit thier guilt.

rohry said:
"I think he [Radosh] just has a vague belief that McCarthy was evil and Ann is wrong."

Correct again and I believe this is true of most people in this country, including Semper here (I should probably go a little easier on him since I think he's just poorly informed, not intentionally ignorant). Only a couple of hundred thousand people out of 300 million have read either Ann's or Cohn's book. And I'll bet I'm one of only about 10,000 who've read both.
106 posted on 10/19/2003 4:15:47 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: chicagolady; fqued
, not

(the legs on the former look kinda familiar, ne c'est pas?)

107 posted on 10/19/2003 4:16:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
She needs to eat at fast food restaurants for about 6 months.

108 posted on 10/19/2003 4:18:09 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: RatSlayer
McCarthy was a senator who was the chairman of a comittee who's job was to find people who were security risks in goverment positions.

He did not manage to find anyone who could be prosecuted. Since there were clearly many who were "security risks" why should we "lionize" the leader of this unsucessful effort - especially since he did this unsuccessful job in a manner which allowed/required the Senate to condemn him?

109 posted on 10/19/2003 4:18:54 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
Semper said:
"I prefer authors [implying that Ann is not one] who assume that their readers have normal reasoning skills."

If you could drop the ad hominen attacks for a moment, I'd like a few specific instances in which you consider McCarthy's tactics "unjustifiable". Then we can get back to the real issue of whether your smear of McCarthy is justified.
110 posted on 10/19/2003 4:20:38 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: Semper
"McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country."

I think you have McCarthy mixed up with Ted Kennedy.
111 posted on 10/19/2003 4:45:04 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: RatSlayer
I've been looking for that in all the reviews of Treason, from all sources, and haven't seen it yet. I think he'll have a tough time with that one.
112 posted on 10/19/2003 4:45:07 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
OK???

This is snide, condescending writing, in an attempt to slaughter Ann without using any facts (most likely because the reviewer does not KNOW any facts.)

Pure vitriol disguised as news/review writing.

And, yes, Anne goes over the top a few times.
113 posted on 10/19/2003 4:51:17 PM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: RatSlayer
the real issue of whether your smear of McCarthy is justified.

How have I "smeared" McCarthy? I have only cited the fact that he was condemned by the Senate, he was unsucessful in finding anyone to prosecute and that he was challenged regarding his tactics.

This thread begins with the statement: In her book “Treason,” Ann Coulter lionizes Joseph McCarthy, the 1950s Wisconsin senator

I have taken issue with the "lionizing" of a senator who was condemned by the Senate. After being quite successful at bringing much attention to himself, he was completely unsuccessful at bringing charges against anyone and his efforts in this regard turned out to be counter-productive.

I can recall seeing him live on TV and thinking that he came across just like the union thug-bosses. I know that is not a scientific way of determining his character but he never did anything to alter my opinion.

114 posted on 10/19/2003 4:53:09 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Chu Gary
I think you have McCarthy mixed up with Ted Kennedy.

LOL. You have a point there.

115 posted on 10/19/2003 5:03:13 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
Semper said:
"He [McCarthy] did not manage to find anyone who could be prosecuted. "

But he found numerous people who were either fired or moved to another position in the goverment because they, in fact, were security risks. And wasn't this in fact the real intent? To remove security risks from sensitive government jobs.

I'd also like to use this to point out the general level of ignorance on what that Senate's commitee's job was. It wasn't to prosecute people. They are not the judiciary, they can't hold a trial. They are not the execute branch, they can't file an indictment. They're job was to be a watchdog agency over the other two branches (although primarily the executive branch). There job WAS to investigate people that they thought might be security risks, and identify those they considered justified to the other branches so that they could deal with the problem.
BTW, Ann also makes this argument (in much different form however). Is Ann just being a McCarthy suckup, am I? I think not.

Semper said:
"why should we "lionize" the leader [McCarthy] of this unsucessful effort " and
"In her book “Treason,” Ann Coulter lionizes Joseph McCarthy"

This is an attempt to put words in both my mouth and Ann's mouth which I know I've never said and which I believe Ann has never said. Speaking only for myself, I don't believe he should be "lionized" at all (and I think Ann would agree with me on the following points, none of which are directed at Semper because I feel he is just ill informed on the subject).

However, I am sick and tired of McCarthy being pilloried for doing his job to the best of his ability. I find the charges that 'McCarthyism' used 'unjustifiable' means and resorted to playing dirty politics to be gross hypocracy. Especially when it comes from the mouth of Mr Welch and some Eisenhower appointies, who played a game of hardball politics far beyond anything McCarthy ever attempted. And especially when it is said by the people (jouralists and senators alike) who were using their positions of power and influence to halt investigations into security risks.

Since some security risks were removed from sensitive goverment positions, I think you're characterization of this as "unsucessful" is "unjustified". Also, even if no one was removed, you would need to show that all their recommendations were bogus to justify this charge since the Senate committee was totally dependant on the other two branches to act on their recommendations.


Semper said:
"How have I "smeared" McCarthy?"

I think most people would agree that when you accuse a man of using unjustifiable means to achieve their ends, that you have indeed smeared their character because it implies that they are either amoral or immoral.

I believe this posts also responds to everything raised in your #114 (It took me a while to get it all organized and typed in.)
116 posted on 10/19/2003 5:10:36 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: RatSlayer
"If you could drop the ad hominen attacks for a moment, I'd like a few specific instances in which you consider McCarthy's tactics "unjustifiable". Then we can get back to the real issue of whether your smear of McCarthy is justified."

This same method works when a liberal is ardently defending BJ Klinton as a great President - all one need do is continue asking the question "OK, give me an example of something he accomplished that benefited the country."

For a wonderful period of time, they are speechless, ahhh, such bliss.

117 posted on 10/19/2003 5:12:57 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: RatSlayer
Here's another book that will back up Ann Coulter.

118 posted on 10/19/2003 5:27:13 PM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Chu Gary
""McCarthy was a drunken clown who was an embarrassment to this country." "

Oh, I missed this one when I was giving examples of your smears.

Once again, if you could drop the ad hominen attacks, it would be much more helpful to your argument if you could give a few specific instances of McCarthy's "unjustifiable means".

I believe I have fully addressed the two given so far:
Mr Welch's poignant speech /sarcasm
and that there were no successful prosecutions.

I have previously stated that naming names was a requirement of the McCarthy's job and the fact that it was in public was his enemy's fault not his. Do you consider this unjustified? If so why?

I realize that is probably coming across as snide and sarcastic. I apologize for that. But, I really am trying to help you develop your points.

Why should I help you with your debate?

Because I believe that the lack of this argument for the last 50 years is why the country is so ignorant on the issue. I believe this was Ann's motivation as well. And I believe realizes if she writes some boring tome like Cohn did, then no one would read it or write reviews of it. So she uses hyperbole and wicked ad hominen attacks on the liberals (although she at least usually gives some backup evidence as to why the name fits), so that the liberals will join the debate instead of just ignoring it.
119 posted on 10/19/2003 5:29:52 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: Chu Gary
McCarthy went toe to toe with the communists, and he lost. They won. In their victory they smeared him and entrenched their operatives. And they continue to be to this day.
120 posted on 10/19/2003 5:30:16 PM PDT by StACase
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