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Clinton Helped China Spy on US*
World Tribune ^
| 10/19/03
| Gertz/Scarborough
Posted on 10/19/2003 7:06:06 AM PDT by pabianice
Spy in the sky
China's first manned spacecraft did more than simply showcase Beijing's efforts for civilian space flight. The Shenzhou 5, or Divine Vessel 5, spacecraft also conducted intelligence-gathering work for China's military.
Included on the top of the Long March 2F rocket, which boosted Shenzhou into orbit Tuesday, was a new Chinese military intelligence-gathering satellite. The satellite was placed in orbit successfully shortly after the Shenzhou began its 14-orbit mission. No mention of the satellite launch was made in the state-run Chinese press.
Additionally, defense officials said the single-astronaut spacecraft carried an infrared camera that conducted photographic spying. The camera was mounted outside the craft and has a resolution of 1.6 meters, meaning something as small as 5 feet wide can be distinguished.
The space spying highlights China's plans to use space for military purposes, primarily to develop missiles and sensors, and to blind or cripple U.S. communications and intelligence systems in any conflict over Taiwan.
Lt. Col. Mark Stokes, director of the Taiwan desk at the Pentagon, said in a speech Sept. 30 that China's space program is closely linked to the Chinese military.
China's "space assets will play a major role in any use of force against Taiwan and in preventing foreign intervention," Col. Stokes said. It is working to develop networks of satellites that will be used for spying and communications for the military, he said.
China also has shown "significant indications" of developing space weapons, such as satellite-killing missiles and satellites and lasers that can disable U.S. military and intelligence satellites, he said.
The Long March rocket booster also benefited from illegal U.S.-technology transfers in the 1990s, when U.S. satellite companies helped China fix electrical problems with the boosters. The booster improvements also benefited Chinese strategic missiles, which are made by the same Chinese manufacturers of the Long March rocket.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chinesemilitary; clintonlegacy; shenzhouv
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Thanks, Bill and Hillary.
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:06:06 AM PDT
by
pabianice
To: pabianice
Clinton Helped China Spy on US - That was his real job!
To: pabianice
Gee, why am I not at all suprized?
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:21:32 AM PDT
by
Camel Joe
(Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
To: Free_at_last_-2001; pabianice
How easy it would be if we could blame everything on Clinton and the liberals.
Unfortunately, the 'Great American Giveaway' has only accelerated under the current administration.
For example, earlier this year the last plant in the U.S. making high-quality magnets used in making smart bombs, closed. The production was moved to Communist China where now 88% of all these magnets are now made.
To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
We need to repeal NAFTA, and get tariffs back up. Become American again!
To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Bump for government subsidized, inefficient, strategic magnet factories. On second thought, forget it.
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:31:35 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: pabianice
Maybe China promised to make them the heads of the new United States of China once they finally take over.
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:33:26 AM PDT
by
Dustbunny
To: gcruse
The government of Red China is more than happy to subsidize (and of course share the ownership) of all our manufacturing.
I'm sure they are particularly pleased with all our leading-edge technology and anything else vital to our National Security.
To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
I'm sure they are. Turning the US into a socialist, government-controlled command economy would be an ironic way to counter the PRC, though. ;)
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:43:35 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: pabianice
The dual legacy continues.....
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:48:40 AM PDT
by
b4its2late
(There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.)
To: gcruse
But the pendulum could swing that far to the left, if the right doesn't respond with reasonable, conservative solutions like the solutions harpseal has listed on his profile page.
To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Hah! Speaking of 'magnates' and subsidizing 'critical' industries, here is a clip from an
article so good I am posting it in its entirety
on a separate thread.Here's where propping up 'strategic' material leads.
"In fact, as ABC had to report in 1995, Donaldson does more than report on government; he receives help from the government. He has pocketed $97,000 in federal wool and mohair subsidies for the sheep on his New Mexico ranch. While perfectly legal, these payments have taken a bit of the punch out of his reports on government waste. The master of the ambush interview was later ambushed himself by Steve Wilson of
Inside Edition, who sheared Donaldson over the sheep money. And on Brinkley one morning, when Donaldson was sparring with Newt Gingrich about perks for congressmen, Gingrich shot back that the House doesn't have "very many magnates of mohair.""
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posted on
10/19/2003 7:58:33 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: gcruse
To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Try 'magnet' not 'magnates'
I know. Where's your sense of humor???
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posted on
10/19/2003 8:13:19 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: gcruse
Sorry, I don't even have a good excuse.
To: pabianice
While I certainly agree with each and every "thanks Bill and Hitlery" post following this article, I think a bit of reasoning should go into the interpretation.
"Included on the top of the Long March 2F rocket...was a new Chinese military intelligence-gathering satellite. The satellite was placed in orbit successfully shortly after the Shenzhou began its 14-orbit mission. Additionally...the single-astronaut spacecraft carried an infrared camera (external, with resolution to five feet) that conducted photographic spying."
Between this and an earlier report that had the PRC's first ever astronaut eating kung-pao chicken while performing his first ever fixed and very much observed orbits around an earth that is at least 50% hostile to China, I'd say we were expecting a bit much from the program.
The fact that "No mention of the satellite launch was made in the state-run Chinese press." probably has more to do with the absence of a satellite launch than with traditional PRC secrecy.
Had it been me rather than the actual victim, I'd have been too busy holding on and praying to ancestors to consider taking photos.
Not to mention the complexities of launching a satellite from a one-man orbiter on the very first try, from a very low and unsustainable orbit, when it's tough to do from the Shuttles that we've been flying for decades.
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posted on
10/19/2003 8:20:11 AM PDT
by
norton
To: norton
You know, you're right. Five foot resolution is useful for recognizing continents, maybe. And infrared??? The real lesson here is that we better get used to having others in space.
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posted on
10/19/2003 8:30:06 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: pabianice
One of the first things Clinton did was cancel COCOM...the multilateral export security controls. He also intentionally moved oversight of these exports out of State and DOD control, into the hands of Commerce. Between 1990-1996, 1 out of every 4 Long March launches was a failure. During one of these launches in 1996, Loral and Hughes lost a $200 million satellite, which then lobbied Clinton to allow them to improve the Chinese's booster stage technology. Along with the booster stage technology, the Chinese also got a better guidance system. It just so happens that Bernard Schwartz of Loral was also one of Clinton's single largest contributors, with over $600,000 in 1996, alone.
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posted on
10/19/2003 8:51:37 AM PDT
by
cwb
To: pabianice; KevinDavis; Calpernia
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:07:58 AM PDT
by
bonesmccoy
(Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
To: Free_at_last_-2001
Can anyone still remember how to spell "Manchurian Candidate"?
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:21:29 AM PDT
by
zerosix
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