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10/18/03 -- Jeb's Emails to FR poster, summer, today, re: Terri. (And, a Message to Michael Shiavo)
10/18/03
| summer's emails with Gov Bush
Posted on 10/18/2003 5:15:50 PM PDT by summer
Note to FR: I am posting here an email conversation I had today with Gov Bush about Terri, and yes, he knows I am posting it here on FR.
In my reply #1, located below this post of Gov Bushs email, I have posted a message from me to Terris husband. And, no, I did not discuss with anyone my idea here to write to Terris husband. No one suggested it to me. Nor did I discuss it with anyone at all.
In my next reply, reply #2 below, I hope to post a message to my friends here on FR. And, while I would like to respond to each reply that may be posted on this thread, I can not. Due to a pressing personal matter, I will not be able to respond tonight.
However, my thoughts and prayers and hopes remain with each person involved in this matter.
God bless.
summer
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----- Original Message -----
From: [summer]
To: Jeb Bush
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re:
question for you
Gov Bush,
Thank you, and I have no doubt you would move Heaven and Earth for her if you could.
Sincerely, [summer]
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject:
question for you
I cannot offer much hope. I am sickened by this situtation and pray for her family. We have looked at every angle, every legal possibility and will continue to do so. It is clear that we need to make living wills the norm for families in our state. Too few people use them.
Jeb
-----Original Message-----
From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: Re:
question for you
Thank you for your response, Gov Bush. Before I post this, can you provide any measure of hope for a legal way to preserve this woman's life? To think that all her parents want to do is care for her and not see her starve to death, is, I think, not asking for a lot in this world. My own parents would feel the same way about me, I am sure[
]
[summer]
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject:
question for you
this was tried in the courts I believe and was rejected.
jeb
-----Original Message-----
From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:03 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject:
question for you
Is there a way you can utilize Family Law as it pertains to abandonment of a spouse -- on the grounds of lack of sexual contact -- so that the path can be cleared for him to be legally removed by the state or her family as a husband?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeb Bush
Sent: Oct 18, 2003 1:47 PM
To: [summer]
Subject:
question for you
Unfortunately, I cannot issue an executive order when there is a court order upheld at every level in the judiciary. Mr. Shiavo is the legal guardian and I can't override that fact. I wish I could but I have no legal authority to do so.
Jeb
-----Original Message-----
From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject:
question for you
Can you use your authority to issue an Executive Order, to place her in a different hospice that has no connection to her husband, as a temporary stop measure to [get] this woman back on feeding -- so that you have the time necessary to review whatever other options may exist for you? This current situation with her removed from the tubes will result in an irrevocable situation.
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FYI.
BTW, if you have not been following this matter, or you have already seen or posted on this thread, or you were already pinged to it, please forgive this one-time ping to you here again.
Thanks, God Bless, and I am on my way to church.
Sincerely,
summer
161
posted on
10/19/2003 5:59:30 AM PDT
by
summer
To: Dianna
Dianna,
Excellent post regarding the dangers of overriding guardianship. I think the legal precedent could have serious consequences for married couples, and religious freedom. I am pained by this case, but also pained by the hysterical posters who have attacked Gov. Bush. Maybe Terri being with God is in fact God's plan, or maybe that is not the case. Nobody however is willing to admit or concede to that. Her husband indeed seems to be a heartless. greedy, and cruel person. But in the end, legal guardianship should be up to spouses, and not parents. If you are a Christian, you should without question marry another Christian.
162
posted on
10/19/2003 6:12:51 AM PDT
by
Reagan79
(Pro Life! Pro Family! Pro Reagan!)
To: Don'tMessWithTexas
You do not understand this case, or you would be outraged at what is happening, instead of defending the status quo of politics. One day government may come for you, and there will be no one to speak up for you.
To: Humidston
"
My husband posited his theory: That Michael wants her dead because he's already contracted to sell her organs.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least."
More flack thrown in to get the "lynch mob" hot & bothered?
Wouldn't surprise you? Or is that what you hope.
You've got another day or so. Got anymore hot little rumors?
164
posted on
10/19/2003 6:15:04 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Lessons of life need not be fatal)
To: A CA Guy
No she isn't....
http://www.firstcoastnews.org/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=9362 Green is a neurologist. Studying the brain is what he does everyday.
About a year ago, he was asked by Terri Schiavo's parents for his opinion on whether or not their daughter was brain dead.
"She's alive....there's no question in my mind she is not brain dead."(excerpt---video of interview at link)
http://www.terrisfight.org/lead.htm video of Terri in downloads
Husband has barred any further pictures or video and to boot denied her communion as part of last rites...wouldn't want her to swallow would we?
165
posted on
10/19/2003 6:16:24 AM PDT
by
tutstar
To: Humidston
Articles have stated that she will be cremated...along with any chance of her ever talking again. Wonder what she would say if she could...
166
posted on
10/19/2003 6:17:44 AM PDT
by
tutstar
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
167
posted on
10/19/2003 6:18:00 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Lessons of life need not be fatal)
To: deannadurbin
Michael Schiavo may look like a human being, but he is a devil.
This is so true, and the Devil has his followers too! Many such "followers" may really believe that one should be eliminated if he lacks "quality of life." Of course, such a person would quickly change his mind if it were he who for some reason lacked "quality of life." It's all according to who is impacted. People today are so ready to recommend death for others, but not for themselves when similarly situated.
To: Humidston
Also meant to add...Look up Wesley Smith "Forced Exit" medical journals are already advocating declaring people such as Terri 'medically dead' so their organs can be harvested. We are well on that road now. Where is Christopher Reeve? He certainly qualifies since he is severely disabled.
For the record I personally am totally against this whole situation.
169
posted on
10/19/2003 6:20:09 AM PDT
by
tutstar
To: summer
The 23rd Psalm --- Translated to Terri's Present Reality !!! The Lord is my Shepherd --- That's Relationship!
I shall not want --- That's Supply!
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures --- That's Rest!
He leadeth me beside the still waters --- That's Refreshment!
He restoreth my soul --- That's Healing!
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness --- That's Guidance!
For His name sake --- That's Purpose!
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death --- That's Testing!
I will fear no evil --- That's Protection!
For Thou art with me --- That's Faithfulness!
Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me --- That's Discipline!
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies--- That's Hope!
Thou annointest my head with oil --- That's Consecration!
My cup runneth over --- That's Abundance!
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life--- That's Blessing!
And I will dwell in the house of the Lord --- That's Security!
Forever --- That's Eternity!
Face it, Terri . . . the Lord is crazy about YOU !!!
.
To: Pan_Yans Wife
"
For example, what if Clinton had intervened in the case of Bush vs. Florida in the 2000 election, by determining that the USSC was wrong!?"
You certainly don't expect an answer on that one! LOL
171
posted on
10/19/2003 6:27:22 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Lessons of life need not be fatal)
To: Reagan79
I am pained by this case, but also pained by the hysterical posters who have attacked Gov. Bush
There are just some people who support anything and everything that a Bush does or does not do.
To: Pan_Yans Wife
Jeb has the final say. The district attorney takes advice from him. Jeb recieved the letter and then the District attorney could review it, I suppose. I was on the phone with the District Attorney when he was getting the letter. The woman whop answered the phone was very excited when I told her about the letter, she came back and said the official word was that the letter was at the captitol and they were waiting to hear from Jeb.
173
posted on
10/19/2003 6:29:44 AM PDT
by
Diva Betsy Ross
((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
To: Theodore R.
174
posted on
10/19/2003 6:36:18 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Lessons of life need not be fatal)
To: pc93; summer
"Who are you? the devil?"
That is WAY over the top. Please see the rules right under the little buttons you click to make a post: "NO personal attacks."
To: summer
Summer, saw your thread last night, and your ping today will give it widespread notice.
You are to be commended for speaking up for Terri. You have doing what the Word commands--to rescue those that are being led to slaughter. You remind me of Esther in the O.T., who was unafraid to approach her husband , the king, on behalf of her people, the Jews, with a 50-50 chance it would lead to her own demise for being so bold. May God richly bless you.
176
posted on
10/19/2003 6:39:32 AM PDT
by
exit82
(Sound off to your elected reps in DC: Capitol switchboard toll free number 1-800-648-3516.)
To: G.Mason
Thanks
Yours is more complete.
177
posted on
10/19/2003 6:43:41 AM PDT
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
To: summer
PING! for truth.
I'm so glad to see this side of Jeb Bush!
178
posted on
10/19/2003 6:46:22 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
To: summer
"He is here, on FR. The site of much venom. He is not afraid to speak. His heart in this matter is pure, and that is why he is here today."
Oh, wow. Do you have a link? I'd love to read his posts.
And thanks for your hard work and dedication, summer. :)
To: No More Gore Anymore
Jeb has the final say. The district attorney takes advice from him. Jeb recieved the letter and then the District attorney could review it, I suppose. I was on the phone with the District Attorney when he was getting the letter. The woman whop answered the phone was very excited when I told her about the letter, she came back and said the official word was that the letter was at the captitol and they were waiting to hear from Jeb.
What is all this about? I don't understand it.
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