FREEP JEB BUSH for TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO

http://www.Terrisfight.org | Friday, 10-17-03 | floriduh voter

[freeparoundtheclock]

FREEPERS, I have taken a break from Terri's 24/7 Vigil to ask for your participation in the next phase of trying to save Terri's life while we wait for good news.

I have not received the Governor's Itinerary for the following week yet from myflorida.com.

We are asking Floridians and out-of-staters to freep the Governor's Mansion in Tallahassee.

If you need ideas for signs, it's basically urging Governor Bush to issue an executive order to stay Terri's starvation.

At this time, the Florida Supremes are reviewing filings today by Terri's counsel.

We need northern Florida to freep Jeb Bush STAT whether he's there or not.

Finally, if anyone receives Jeb's schedule in their e-newsletter, please post it here so we can hold Terri vigils in whatever town Jeb is in.

Sorry, I can't be more informative at this time. I'm sunburn and tired and this request has come from Terri's team. Thank you in advance. Floriduh Voter

[don-o]

Why would I want to have that post pulled?

I thought maybe you might regret that advocating killing an innocent (your words) could be a good thing,

Do not go into war scenarios on this.

We are talking about a woman who needs food and water, and is not a P.O.W., though she should be.

[litany_of_lies]

Doesn't make it any less true.

[Calpernia]

Don't speak for the Judge Chad. He wants the case.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, I didn't say it would be a good thing, but if you look back through this nation's history you will find thousands or mroe innocent people who died for the fredoms we enjoy today - ones that are slipping away, though...

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Why would it be a detriment to others?

[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, whether he wants it or not, I don't see him taking it until after SCOF takes a whack at it. THey have a decision coming soon, don't they?

[Ohioan from Florida]

Terri's parents requested that she be taken off the morphine to prevent this particular scenario from happening.

[supercat]

For the courts to side with Michael Schiavo, they would have to completely disregard Article 1, Section 2. They promote her as void of thought, hoping most will view a lack of mental awareness, which they promote in spite of evidence to the contrary, as useless to society and worthy of death.

The problem is that if there is any circumstance legally in which a person's feeding tube may be removed (and certainly there are some(*), though I don't know that any could be weaseled into applying here) and Judge Greer finds that such circumstances exist, there's nothing an appeals court can do to challenge such a finding no matter how much evidence may exist to the contrary. The most it can do, if evidence exists which Judge Greer should have considered but won't admit to having done so, is order him to consider such evidence. Since such consideration could in fact consist of simply flipping through the pages and ignoring anything printed on them, such an order is basically meaningless.

(*) Well, for starters, it's certainly legal to remove a feeding tube if a person has recovered to the point of not needing it, and I suspect it's probably legal to remove a feeding tube if someone's absolutely and completely dead in an effort to pretty up the corpse.

[Theodore R.]

The old rivals Jefferson and Hamilton agreed on the importance of life, as your quotes demonstrate. I wonder what those two would have done to rescue Terri had they had feeding tubes back then.

Terri should be in the Mayo Clinic, not in George W. Greer's hospice.

Someone finally said that Greer is a Democrat, but I was never able to confirm that. It does seem likely that Lawton Chiles would name only Democrats to the state courts though.

[Calpernia]

Requested yes. But a nurse here said she still has it. I can't confirm either way.

[litany_of_lies]

Is there a way to find out if this corporation has filed all required tax returns and other paperwork?

[Chad Fairbanks]

Oh, I don't know. If the President of the United States or the Governor of a State can just decide to ignore a court ruling because they don't like it in this case would set a precedent. Would that be a good one, or a bad one?

[Calpernia]

He filed the papers requesting the case. He isn't waiting for SCOF. But someone (maybe Greer?) has to release it.

[narses]

LOL, your games are about as mature as the sixth grade. When you grow up you'll get treated like an adult. Until then, you'll get about what you act like.

[Theodore R.]

We should not in a real "republic" have to "choose" between an innocent disabled woman and the principles of federalism. After all, what was George H.W. Bush's "Americans with Disabilities Act" for? That must be one of the most worthless laws on the books, as we have seen here.

[Jorge]

No jorgy, she is not vegatative, she can recover if treated. Starving people to death for insurance money is criminal barbarism.

No narsy. She has been in this state for over 10 years. Can't walk or talk, read, watch TV, eat or drink, go to the bathroom, somebody has to wipe her butt daily....would you like to linger in this state year after year?

I wouldn't.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, while you call names and laugh, a poor innocent woman is dying - being murdered.

I couldn't care less about you. So wallow in your insignificance.

[Theodore R.]

Well, what would Samuel Adams say about your question? He would rise up against judicial tyranny, I suspect. At least he did from 1775-83.

[don-o]

Good night,all.

And Chad, Note well two big lies:

1. The check is in the mail.

2. I am from the government, and I am here to help you.

[supercat]

If the facts were as you state them and made known to the judge, yes.

But what constitutes "being made known". If the judge states that he finds a five-year-old phone book to be more credible than a photograph allegedly taken of the site in question, then he doesn't legally "know" the the address given is that of an abandoned building.