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Jeb Bush Wimping Out in Schiavo Case?
NewsMax ^ | 10/17/03 | Limbacher

Posted on 10/17/2003 9:20:22 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Thursday that his legal team has been unable to find a basis for him to intervene in the case of Terri Schiavo, who is expected to starve to death as soon as this weekend after her feeding tube was removed at the direction of her husband yesterday.

"The legal office has been talking to people trying to find some strategy where my office can intervene in a different fashion that will yield a different result," Bush said Thursday. "So far we have not found that option."

Gov. Bush's comments came before Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, met with him privately to present a letter from Florida's Thomas More Law Center citing a legal basis for the state to intervene to stop what one attorney described as "the execution of Terri Schiavo."

"We're waiting to hear from Gov. Bush" on the Thomas More letter, Mr. Schindler told national talk radio host Sean Hannity Thursday afternoon. Schindler said Gov. Bush's response is "probably is our last hope."

By Friday morning, Bush's office gave no hint that he had reached a decision. Thursday night Mr. Schindler told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" that his daughter could die as early as this weekend if medical staff begin administering morphine to counter the pain of her starvation.

The Republican governor's caution over the legal technicalities of the case stands in marked contrast to the actions of Democrats, who often take a shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later approach when an issue of importance hangs in the balance.

In April 2000, for instance, the Clinton administration didn't let the law interfere with its plan to return 6-year-old boat boy Elian Gonzalez to Castro's Cuba. Instead of waiting for Gonzalez's legal case to play out in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, Attorney General Janet Reno executed White House plans to have the boy kidnapped from the home of his Miami relatives at machine gunpoint.

Normally Clinton-friendly legal powerhouse attorneys Alan Dershowitz and Lawrence Tribe were horrified, publicly condemning the raid as unconstitutional.

Gov. Bush reaction? He called the action "unconscionable" but showed no interest in pursuing legal sanctions against the White House.

When Republicans in Congress called for a congressional investigation into the Clinton administration's abuse of power in the Elian case, top aides to then-presidential candidate George Bush derailed the idea.

"A top Republican Party official told The Daily News that Bush campaign manager Joe Allbaugh informed Senate Republicans on Thursday that the candidate wanted the hearings scrapped because the issue is a political loser," reported the New York paper a week after the raid.

As it turned out, voter backlash over the Elian raid among Florida's Cuban-American community gave President Bush his razor thin margin of victory in the 2000 election.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: govbush; schiavo
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I pray to give Terri strength to hang on until Jeb or George Bush gets a spine.
Inspite of all the legal mumble-jumble going on these these boards, I worked for the State of California for 28 years and saw many times where the Governor or various State
Legislators personally intervened, often in direct violation of laws and regulations, on the behalf of citizens (One of these Governors was Ronald Reagan). A governor can do almost anything.
Until this Govornor gets a spine I recommend a state boycott.
41 posted on 10/17/2003 10:07:45 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Explain exactly what Governor Bush can legally do.
42 posted on 10/17/2003 10:09:45 AM PDT by verity
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To: verity
Have you been under a rock for the past 24 hours ? The letters from the Thomas Moore Law Center are all over this site. Educate yourself before you start throwing names around buddy.
43 posted on 10/17/2003 10:13:11 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If Jeb Bush allows Terri Schiavo to die, he can say goodbye to his political future.

Count on it.

44 posted on 10/17/2003 10:28:29 AM PDT by Houmatt (Why is it every time I think of Michael Moore I get more angry?)
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To: verity
A governor can directly come to the aid of any of the State's citizens and is by law required to do so in this case. Read the briefs on the website
45 posted on 10/17/2003 10:28:33 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: JohnnyZ
Go to hell.

Fact is, the Governor has the authority to put a stop to this nonsense, especially if he is as pro-life as he claims. All he has to do is call in the Florida National Guard and have Terri removed from that house of horrors that Judge Greer so willingly conspired to place her into (a house with direct connections to Michael Schiavo's "right-to-die" lawyer) and place her into a medical facility where she will be protected from those who only want to kill her. He won't do it because he wants to be seen as a hypocrite and have his re-election chances blown to hell and gone.

46 posted on 10/17/2003 10:38:32 AM PDT by Houmatt (Why is it every time I think of Michael Moore I get more angry?)
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To: wirestripper
Advocates of what? Advocates of human life or advocates of killing the disabled in the name of convenience?
47 posted on 10/17/2003 10:40:46 AM PDT by Houmatt (Why is it every time I think of Michael Moore I get more angry?)
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To: Hugin
That defense should hold in the case of Scott Peterson then.
48 posted on 10/17/2003 10:44:16 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Houmatt
or advocates of killing the disabled in the name of convenience?

I read it as being allowed to die in the name of dignity and compassion. And now, unfortunately as a result of a court order that never should have been needed.

49 posted on 10/17/2003 10:47:35 AM PDT by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: BSunday
Read and be enlightened ...... Terri Schiavo:


FLORIDA APPEALS COURT UPHOLDS
ORDER TO REMOVE SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO FEEDING TUBE

http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/SchindlerSchiavo061303.html



Sept. 2nd 2003 U S District Court Tampa

http://www.accessiblesociety.org/topics/independentliving/schiavo.html



Will to live project:

http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/willtolive/StatesList.html

http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/willtolive/FL.htm



On or about August 30, 2003:
Links to Documents:
Father's Affidavit http://www.zimp.org/robert.pdf
Federal Order http://www.zimp.org/order.pdf
Affidavit C. Johnson http://www.zimp.org/johnson.pdf
Affidavit H. Law http://www.zimp.org/Heidi.pdf
Affidavit C. Iyer http://www.zimp.org/carla.pdf



( Bush tries?)

Posted on Thu, Oct. 09, 2003 http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/pennsylvania/counties/chester_county/6966709.htm
“Bush argued that to remove the feeding tube without first trying to get Terri Schiavo to eat and drink on her own would violate her right to life under the Florida and federal Constitutions.”


October 16th Legal Opinion Letters sent to Governor Bush:

http://terrisfight.org/downloads/More.pdf
http://terrisfight.org/memorandum.html
http://terrisfight.org/memorandum2.htm
http://terrisfight.org/memorandum3.htm



Timeline of the Terri Schiavo case

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/ap/FL_Comatose_Woman_Timeline.html



50 posted on 10/17/2003 10:56:14 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: G.Mason
Thanks for all the links, but someone else already enlightened me as to the de facto prison she now lives in.

What did they do to my America?

51 posted on 10/17/2003 11:00:49 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: nickcarraway
What defense? I'm just saying they would not be allowed to take her by hospital security.
52 posted on 10/17/2003 11:02:50 AM PDT by Hugin (qua)
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To: hunter112
"but its harder to believe that a super-selfish person would set themselves up for thirteen years of hospital hell just for a few bucks, or an affair." The husband hasn't been loving her for 13 years and has exhausted all hope. He's been waiting/hoping for her to die for 13 years, which is deplorable. He's stonewalled any sort of attempt at rehabilitation and has instead tried everything (and is now suceeding) to have her die. Obviously he didn't mean it when he said, "in sickness and in health"
53 posted on 10/17/2003 11:05:21 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (Liberals don't want you to have guns, but they don't care if a murdering despot has nerve gas)
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To: wirestripper
I read it as being allowed to die in the name of dignity and compassion.

Whose dignity? Whose compassion? Do I have to remind you Terri never specified in writing she did not want to be kept alive via artificial means? Do I have to remind you the woman is in fact breathing on her own, the only thing that is being done artifically is she being fed?

There is NO! REASON! WHATSOEVER! to kill this woman other than her husband wants it! He wants to "get on with his life" and to do that, he wants Terri's ended.

Now, tell me, where in the bowels of hell is the dignity and compassion in THAT!?!

54 posted on 10/17/2003 11:19:44 AM PDT by Houmatt (Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: BSunday
"What did they do to my America?"

"They" began to subvert it about 1790, kicked the teeth out of it in the 1860's, and it's been down hill ever since.

55 posted on 10/17/2003 11:31:07 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is terrible. Did I hear correctly that this woman's husband has a girlfriend and they are expecting their second child? Why couldn't he divorce her and the parents would be responsible for her? This sounds like something out of a tabloid, if true.
56 posted on 10/17/2003 11:34:44 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (I DID NOT vote for that woman, Napolitano!)
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To: BSunday
BTW ...... that wasn't just for you.

That's for all those that wish to read and get a drift on what is and what may not be going on.

Until yesterday I was as dumb as a box of rocks. Thankfully some Freepers had the patience to persuade me to get my mind right.

57 posted on 10/17/2003 11:36:21 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: hsmomx3
Because most likly, and IMO ,he tried to strangle her and that is waht has put her in this condition. The parents offered to give him all of the money , he still said no. Dead people can no talk.
58 posted on 10/17/2003 11:40:06 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: All
This is noy just being "talked about" on conservative threads, I visited TOS, and they are in agreement, just too young (and stupid) kids to activate any positive action to help Terri!!!
Besides all the national and international media!
To those anti- "rights" persons- where is the "dignity" in thirst and starvation?
59 posted on 10/17/2003 11:43:26 AM PDT by oreolady (the left coast is a changin')
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To: Houmatt
He wants to "get on with his life" and to do that, he wants Terri's ended.

Another crock of crap.

He could simply divorce her and go.

(and don't spout the money lie)

This guy cares for his spouse and is doing, has ben doing what he feels is right.

You have absolutely no say in this, so but out. None of you do!

I find this behavior totally out of line and disgusting.

Stop it!

60 posted on 10/17/2003 11:46:07 AM PDT by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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