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DA hasn't shown everything
Vail Daily ^ | October 15, 2003 | Randy Wyrick

Posted on 10/16/2003 3:05:36 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said the prosecution did not lay out its entire case during Kobe Bryant's preliminary hearing and had no intention to do so.

The preliminary hearing is to determine only whether probable cause exists and that Bryant's case should be sent along to trial.

"Probable cause is a low standard and no prosecutor puts on an entire case in a preliminary hearing," Hurlbert said to reporters after the preliminary hearing ended Wednesday afternoon. "What you saw was a sanitized version of the evidence."

With a nod to the court of public opinion and the media, Hurlbert said that's not his most important audience.

"My intention was never to try this case in the media," said Hurlbert. "My intention was to try this case before an Eagle County jury of 12.

"I am confident the judge will bind it over, and I'm confident in the people's case versus Kobe Bean Bryant."

Hurlbert said he spoke to the victim and her family, and she's "doing OK."

Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters told reporters he thinks the Sheriff's Office investigation was thorough.

"When you investigate cases like this, you ask the pertinent questions - who, what, when, where, why and how," said Winters. "I feel that we asked and answered those questions."

Denver defense attorney Craig Silverman remains unconvinced.

"I don't think the case should have been filed," said Silverman. "I spent 16 years as a prosecutor, and this is not an easy road for her, nor for the people who had sex with her. They know who they are, and they will be called to testify."

"The prosecution would do Mr. Bryant and the alleged victim a favor by dismissing this case at this point."

Victoria Ricke, who was rolling through from Iowa when she and a friend stopped to take in the spectacle, said Bryant could have solved most of his own problems, even after his admitted adultery.

"Mr. Bryant's T-shirt is a little like Bill Clinton's blue dress, she said. "Clinton should have gotten rid of that blue dress, and Mr. Bryant should have gotten rid of that T-shirt."

And which way does she see it going?

"For now, I have to lean a little bit toward him having done it," she said. "We'll see once the trial starts and she has to testify."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: abuse; bryant; kobe; rape; rapist
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To: Pukin Dog
LOL!
41 posted on 10/16/2003 6:14:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Yeti
There are those whose instinct is to protect a victim and prosecute a perp, and those whose instinct is to get a perp off in court while trashing a victim. That is precisely why OJ walked.
42 posted on 10/16/2003 6:16:00 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Yeti
And then there's the title: "DA hasn't shown everything"

They were referring to the tattoo on his ass that reads "Property of Mackey". He's going to wait until the ink is dry.

43 posted on 10/16/2003 6:16:47 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: af_vet_1981
Raping the victim again and again is a standard perp defense tactic. Defense lawyers don't mind as long as they get paid.

Sorry, try again. Defending an innocent man again and again is a standard defense tactic. Defense lawyers don't mind as long as they get paid.

44 posted on 10/17/2003 11:11:13 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (.)
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To: Pukin Dog
As you can see, there seem to be no direct quotes forthcoming. This is standard operating procedure for those attacking Kobe Bryant's lawyer. Hit and run. I personally feel that if Kobe is quilty, then he should spend a long time in prison. However, I think a few people have gotten emotionally involved to the point that they are actually rooting for one side against another. There are some who WANT Kobe to be guilty. I only want him to be found guilty IF if IS guilty.

Agreed. Some already have their minds made up. As you say, some people WANT him to be guilty. That's too bad. That means they want it to be true that this girl was brutally raped, as has been described. I, for one, hope she's just a mentally unstable person as opposed to a rape victim, but I do hold out the possibility that Kobe raped her. It doesn't make much sense to me that he would, but I can't rule out it completely. And, yes, if he did it, he should go away for a long, long time.

45 posted on 10/17/2003 11:14:50 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (.)
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To: GLDNGUN
Nope. They try to get perps back on the street as soon as possible. They don't care if they are innocent and they don't want to know if they are guilty. Their policy is :

Don't ask. Don't tell

They should pay reparations to the American people.

46 posted on 10/17/2003 1:07:36 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: GLDNGUN
If Kobe Bryant is found guilty, I want him to hang. Every indication, dispite the ramblings of some of us, seem to indicate that the girl has a screw loose. I hope this doesnt seem racist, but Bryant is not like your average Black NBA star, although he is guilty of cheating on his wife. I hope that whoever is lying, that they are either punished or get the help they need.
47 posted on 10/17/2003 2:58:21 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: af_vet_1981
Nope. They try to get perps back on the street as soon as possible. They don't care if they are innocent and they don't want to know if they are guilty. Their policy is : Don't ask. Don't tell They should pay reparations to the American people.

Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape?

What is the job of the defense lawyer in such a case?

48 posted on 10/22/2003 10:13:35 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (.)
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To: GLDNGUN
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape?
Do you mean Bill Clinton ?

What is the job of the defense lawyer in such a case?
Lie, cheat and steal to get perps back on the street as soon as possible so they can prey on more victims
49 posted on 10/22/2003 10:26:29 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
I'm sure someone will ask again,so...

Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape?

Try a direct answer. I'll help you, if you need it.

50 posted on 10/22/2003 11:31:01 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (How do you tell two KKK members apart? Ask their wife. After all, she's their mother....)
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To: GLDNGUN
It doesn't make much sense to me that he would...

And it doesn't make sense - why? Granted, he is married. But beyond that...?

51 posted on 10/22/2003 11:38:47 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
I'm sure someone will ask again,so... Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape? Try a direct answer. I'll help you, if you need it.

Are you contending Bill Clinton was falsely accused of sexual assault ? Are you shilling for his attorneys ?



Try a direct answer. I'll help you, if you need it.
52 posted on 10/22/2003 12:13:56 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape?
53 posted on 10/22/2003 12:16:04 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (How do you tell two KKK members apart? Ask their wife. After all, she's their mother....)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape? Do you think Bill Clinton was falsely accused of rape and do you approve of his attorneys' sliming of the alleged victim(s) ?
54 posted on 10/22/2003 12:36:13 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
This time, with a little backtracking….stop me when I’m wrong…

Kobe has been accused of rape.
He has a right to defend himself.
That defense must involve Kobe countering the prosecution’s arguments.

So far on this thread, you have indicated that you are already sure that he is guilty.

That stance in incomprehensible to some. So they naturally wonder if you recognize any possibility that a person could be falsely accused of a crime.

This has nothing to do with Clinton or some pro-rape cabal.

So….

Has anyone ever been falsely accused of rape?

55 posted on 10/22/2003 12:51:40 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (How do you tell two KKK members apart? Ask their wife. After all, she's their mother....)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
So far on this thread, you have indicated that you are already sure that he is guilty.

Yep, I'm sure Bill Clinton was guilty too. Apparently you don't think so. I don't think that makes you a Democrat, do you ?

56 posted on 10/22/2003 12:53:34 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
I think Bill Clinton was guilty.

I don't know if Kobe is.

Do you believe that it is possible for someone to be falsely accused of rape?

57 posted on 10/22/2003 1:02:32 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (How do you tell two KKK members apart? Ask their wife. After all, she's their mother....)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
You'd be better off sticking your head in a garbage disposal than arguing with this rocket scientist.

He just says the same thing, over and over and over, no matter what you say.

58 posted on 10/22/2003 1:05:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Do you believe that it is possible for someone to be falsely accused of rape?

Do you think it is possible Bill Clinton was falsely accused of rape ?

59 posted on 10/22/2003 1:08:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Logical Fallacies: The Red Herring.
60 posted on 10/22/2003 1:22:48 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (How do you tell two KKK members apart? Ask their wife. After all, she's their mother....)
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