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DA hasn't shown everything
Vail Daily ^ | October 15, 2003 | Randy Wyrick

Posted on 10/16/2003 3:05:36 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said the prosecution did not lay out its entire case during Kobe Bryant's preliminary hearing and had no intention to do so.

The preliminary hearing is to determine only whether probable cause exists and that Bryant's case should be sent along to trial.

"Probable cause is a low standard and no prosecutor puts on an entire case in a preliminary hearing," Hurlbert said to reporters after the preliminary hearing ended Wednesday afternoon. "What you saw was a sanitized version of the evidence."

With a nod to the court of public opinion and the media, Hurlbert said that's not his most important audience.

"My intention was never to try this case in the media," said Hurlbert. "My intention was to try this case before an Eagle County jury of 12.

"I am confident the judge will bind it over, and I'm confident in the people's case versus Kobe Bean Bryant."

Hurlbert said he spoke to the victim and her family, and she's "doing OK."

Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters told reporters he thinks the Sheriff's Office investigation was thorough.

"When you investigate cases like this, you ask the pertinent questions - who, what, when, where, why and how," said Winters. "I feel that we asked and answered those questions."

Denver defense attorney Craig Silverman remains unconvinced.

"I don't think the case should have been filed," said Silverman. "I spent 16 years as a prosecutor, and this is not an easy road for her, nor for the people who had sex with her. They know who they are, and they will be called to testify."

"The prosecution would do Mr. Bryant and the alleged victim a favor by dismissing this case at this point."

Victoria Ricke, who was rolling through from Iowa when she and a friend stopped to take in the spectacle, said Bryant could have solved most of his own problems, even after his admitted adultery.

"Mr. Bryant's T-shirt is a little like Bill Clinton's blue dress, she said. "Clinton should have gotten rid of that blue dress, and Mr. Bryant should have gotten rid of that T-shirt."

And which way does she see it going?

"For now, I have to lean a little bit toward him having done it," she said. "We'll see once the trial starts and she has to testify."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: abuse; bryant; kobe; rape; rapist
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To: GLDNGUN
Raping the victim again and again is a standard perp defense tactic. Defense lawyers don't mind as long as they get paid.
21 posted on 10/16/2003 5:05:36 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Raping the victim again and again is a standard perp defense tactic. Defense lawyers don't mind as long as they get paid.

You're just spouting bullshit.

There's no "rape" until proven, and the accuser has a BIG problem: she had sex with three different guys in a very short period of time.

The night auditor--the FIRST person to see her after she left KB's room--said the girl didn't say a thing about being raped, and didn't seem upset. In fact, she counted the money before saying anything to to bellhop.

The prosecution only filed this case when a showboating sheriff obtained an arrest warrant and didn't even tell the prosecutor.

22 posted on 10/16/2003 5:14:42 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: af_vet_1981
So, are you just going to ignore me? Dont you even want to TRY to back up your statement? Why would you even bother posting anything if you cant back up what you say? Now you have gone and put TWO silly statement before us, and I guess you dont plan to back up either one, do you? Why not spare us your opinion and put a few facts before us?
23 posted on 10/16/2003 5:31:04 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: sinkspur
You might want to stop; I understand that facts tend to give that one a headache.
24 posted on 10/16/2003 5:32:57 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: sinkspur
There's no "rape" until proven

If a tree falls in the forest, it doesn't make a sound until someone hears it?

25 posted on 10/16/2003 5:40:14 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
If a tree falls in the forest, it doesn't make a sound until someone hears it?

Let me rephrase that: there is no rape as defined by the law until proven in a courtroom.

Accusing someone of rape is extremely serious, and, to put someone in prison for life, there must be evidence that proves rape occurred beyond a reasonable doubt.

26 posted on 10/16/2003 5:43:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: Pukin Dog; sinkspur
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said the prosecution did not lay out its entire case during Kobe Bryant

Don't all good prosecutor "only" put on the part of their case that can easily be blown out of the water?

No, you say?

Then I wonder why this guy did? You'd think he'd go with the best stuff he had.

27 posted on 10/16/2003 5:44:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: sinkspur
Accusing someone of rape is extremely serious, and, to put someone in prison for life, there must be evidence that proves rape occurred beyond a reasonable doubt.

True, we'll see what's in store.

We can be sure that there is more. I think there are significant details that haven't been released. I don't think they've done discovery yet.

The prosecutor usually only presents the bare minimum necessary to justify a trial during a prelim, and they do their best not to reveal the main thrust of the case they are going to make. If they can use a barely-relevant piece of info that has nothing to do with their main arguments, they will, just to avoid tipping their hand.

What has been presented might not be enough to convict someone, but it is surely enough to justify a trial. So, we'll see.

28 posted on 10/16/2003 5:53:09 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Howlin
You know better! Read my previous.
29 posted on 10/16/2003 5:54:05 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
they do their best not to reveal the main thrust of the case they are going to make. If they can use a barely-relevant piece of info that has nothing to do with their main arguments, they will, just to avoid tipping their hand.

The defense knows everything the prosecution has, in terms of evidence. True, Mackey doesn't know Hurlbut's legal strategy, but it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

The prosecution got its head handed to it yesterday. If that's any indication of what's to come, KB is home free.

30 posted on 10/16/2003 5:56:22 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: Yeti
I know what better?
31 posted on 10/16/2003 5:57:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Than to say that the prosecution uses his best stuff in a prelim.
32 posted on 10/16/2003 5:59:31 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
If they can use a barely-relevant piece of info that has nothing to do with their main arguments, they will, just to avoid tipping their hand.

So, which part of the "testimony" was "barely-relevant?"

The detective's report?

The accuser's statement?

The nurse's statement?

The night auditor's statement?

After all those, I can hardly wait to hear what IS relevant!

33 posted on 10/16/2003 5:59:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Yeti
Than to say that the prosecution uses his best stuff in a prelim.

He gave a complete outline of his case.

34 posted on 10/16/2003 6:00:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
He gave a complete outline of his case.

How in the world could you possibly know that?

35 posted on 10/16/2003 6:01:41 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Howlin
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said the prosecution did not lay out its entire case during Kobe Bryant's preliminary hearing and had no intention to do so.

... is the first line in the article.

And then there's the title: "DA hasn't shown everything"

36 posted on 10/16/2003 6:06:27 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Howlin
You'd think he'd go with the best stuff he had.

This guy is such a rookie. He saw bookdeals and stars in his eyes, and made a dumb decision to go forward with this prosecution.

Mackey is going to cause him to lose his job shortly. Someone told him that he better get his ass in front of the cameras and do some damage control, but it only made him look weaker.

"Dont worry, we've got more". Yeah right. Before this trial is over, we are going to see Mackey sitting on his back, slapping him in the head, yelling "Who's your daddy?"

Kobe is going to walk.

37 posted on 10/16/2003 6:08:28 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Howlin
I could get repetitive stress syndrome from hitting the refresh button, waiting for you to spin your way out of this one, I think.
38 posted on 10/16/2003 6:10:01 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
We can be sure that there is more. I think there are significant details that haven't been released. I don't think they've done discovery yet.

Yep. I'm sympathize with the rape victim. I don't support rapists and perps.

39 posted on 10/16/2003 6:13:49 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Yeti
"DA hasn't shown everything"

He took his best shot. Live with it.

40 posted on 10/16/2003 6:14:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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