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CBS Homeschooling Segments: Your calls are having an effect!
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Posted on 10/15/2003 12:59:58 PM PDT by hsmomx3

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To: OrangeDaisy
Not everyone is meant to homeschool. The homeschoolers that seem to stand out are always those that seem odd. There may be others that are homeschooled that you didn't think of.
For the longest time I assumed people in my church knew my children were homeschooled. Whenever I mention it (usually after asking what school my children attend), they often look surprised.
21 posted on 10/15/2003 2:25:00 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: OrangeDaisy
Well, I've observed this in my own homeschooled kids, who aren't very interested in interacting with public schooled kids who often seem to lack social skills. I, too, have difficulty interacting with people who are out of control and lack social skills. Call me weird, but there it is. It's interesting that what used to be considered a normal human reaction to rude and out-of-control people ( to want to avoid them ), now is considered a social liability. Whatever happened to letting people march to their own drummers, however distant and far away... ( my apologies to Thoreau)
22 posted on 10/15/2003 2:37:12 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: OrangeDaisy
Our 5 children, all homeschooled don't fit into any of the normal social patterns. They don't need the group to survive and find many of their peers act like a weekday sitcom or an mtv video. Many kids in a Sunday school are there for the same reason as a public school, free babysitting. Without parental guidance born of unselfish love your kids will have problems no matter how they are schooled. You have named a bunch of steriotypical observations on some homeschooled kids that are preached straight from the NEA. Are you?
23 posted on 10/15/2003 2:38:22 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death
Seems CBS and the NEA and teachers unions are in lock step. Our 2 girls are homeschooled and doing great.
24 posted on 10/15/2003 2:43:59 PM PDT by paulsy
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To: OrangeDaisy
One child is several years behind compared to the others in the class.

Several other home schooled children I have encountered over the years had difficulty interacting with the other students in their Sunday School class.

Knowing that a child is homeschooled creates a built-in bias in some people, maybe even you. People put those children on a much higher plane of expectations. These children you've described could be any kid, but you know they're homeschooled so you are subconsciously less tolerant of their problems.

I have never encountered a home schooled child that seem didn't seem to isolate themselves from other children.

Sorry, I don't believe ALL the homeschooled children you've met are like this. What kind of children were the homeschooled ones avoiding? ALL of them, or the obnoxious ones? If it's the latter, I frankly don't blame them.

I admit they were very intelligent but were also very arrogant about their intelligence.

This is a condemnation of arrogant parenting, NOT homeschooling. How often have you met children who were arrogant about their trendy clothing, their privileges, the 'stuff' their parents could afford, or the car their daddy bought for them when they turned 16? Would you condemn the government schools for that behavior, or would you just chalk it up to immaturity and/or their parents?

It's just like the people who come down on Christians who f*ck up in life MORE than the non-Christians.....there's a higher level of expectations about how they should behave so it's criticized more harshly when that expectation is not met.

25 posted on 10/15/2003 3:01:34 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Onelifetogive
I suspect that when they do start their "carriers", the will be very effective at projecting their power.

Huh?? They have no power. They have a love for the things that have intrested them, and that in turn has spurred them to try and succede in what intrested them. They have earned a high degree of respect, in one of their cases world wide the other through out the US, in totally different areas of intrest, but they have no power nor do they seek it, as a matter of fact both are known for helping others try and get as far as they have. One even spends time teaching others his secrets.

They were given the choice to go to school during high school or home school. They chose their own course. Home schooling gave them the opportunity to branch out and explore different options and to excell.

Somebody who is used to the behavior of public or private schooled children would deffinitly see them as different. They behaved and spoke like adults while their counterparts were worried about their social cliques.

27 posted on 10/15/2003 3:18:01 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: OrangeDaisy
Think you've just chanced to have bad experiences. A close relative teaches Sunday School for 5-year-olds and commented to me a couple weeks ago how stressed most of them seemed. Upon some delicate querying of parents, etc., she determined that there were a lot of "school issues" going on including bullying. The children who didn't appear to be stressed were homeschooled. Her experience doesn't necessarily correlate to how all schooled and homeschooled children act, either, it was simply a quirk that appeared this year. She had formerly been questioning homeschooling but a series of positive experiences changed her mind.

I would also add that we saw *lots* of arrogance in my daughters' gifted classes. The arrogance and cliquishness led in part to our deciding not to put younger daughter in the same program and homeschool her instead.

I think you'll find most homeschooled kids, if you meet a wider number of them, to be regular, ordinary kids having a positive experience.
28 posted on 10/15/2003 3:42:10 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: OrangeDaisy
I admit they were very intelligent but were also very arrogant about their intelligence.

Beat you in an argument did they? :) This of course is never found in good publicly schooled children. They are stupid and know their place.

Are these home schooled children be able to cope when they enter the real world?

Doing just fine, thank you for asking.

29 posted on 10/15/2003 3:47:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ignore the propaganda, focus on what you see.)
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To: Lady Heron
I suspect that when they do start their "carriers", the will be very effective at projecting their power.

"Carriers" are military weapons that are used to project the power of one's military across the globe...

30 posted on 10/15/2003 4:24:40 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Are you going to list all the public-school kids that were killed last week by family members?
32 posted on 10/15/2003 6:37:52 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: OrangeDaisy
" One child is several years behind compared to the others in the class. Her mother seems almost illiterate, but the state (or something) allows her to continue homeschooling her child."

Perhaps the child is mildly retarded. Perhaps the parents felt it was better for her to school at home than be ridiculed and have her self esteem destroyed by obnoxious public school brats. Perhaps she was pulled out of public school specifically because she was so far behind. We have to trust parents and give them the authority to make the decisions with their children. If we don't, then we are all just slaves of the state, and the only solution is to take them away before any damage can be done (some here on FR will even argure that's what public schools are doing).

"Several other home schooled children I have encountered over the years had difficulty interacting with the other students in their Sunday School class. I have never encountered a home schooled child that seem didn't seem to isolate themselves from other children."

Homeschooled children are not exposed daily to the rowdy, undisciplined, pent-up public school kids. I wouldn't blame them for avoiding public school kids. They are often treated more as adults than are public school kids, and are not segregated by age like public schools. Herding together some 30 odd kids all of the same age for a critical 12 years of youth is a horrible way to raise children. They need to be exposed to adults, older and younger children. Yes, there are these in public schools, but interaction is extremely limited, and not at all encouraged.

" I admit they were very intelligent but were also very arrogant about their intelligence. Are these home schooled children be able to cope when they enter the real world?"

Better that than letting them become little government brainwashed public sheep. Public schools are teaching children about adult subject matter such as drugs, sex, sodomy, violence, socialism, racism, global environmental gloom and doom at ages before they are even old enough to maturely comprehend or appropriately apply the knowledge. Many are so confused, they often don't know right from wrong. We see regulary in the news horror stories of public school kids gone berserk.

Even if what you say is so, is a little "arrogance" so awful? Seems to me there are much bigger concerns with public school kids, than a little arrogance in some homeschooler. Also, I don't think arrogance is a rarity in public school kids either. If they are intelligent as you say, they will grow out of it, they'll cope just fine.

33 posted on 10/15/2003 6:51:54 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: N3WBI3
My wife (to be) and I are going to try and have kids right after we get married (less than 2 months).

A minimum of 9 months is usually recommended.

34 posted on 10/15/2003 6:54:11 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: GovernmentShrinker
and then for whatever reason in this poor little girl's head, she felt it appropriate to end her life

I love it!!

For whatever reason.

"Your honour, only God knows why, out of the blue, this girl decided her life was worth ending. We will simply never know."

This must be a joke.

35 posted on 10/15/2003 6:56:48 PM PDT by ForOurFuture
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To: Aarchaeus
Not if life starts at conception ;)
36 posted on 10/15/2003 7:24:01 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: OrangeDaisy
A lot of parents home school their kids because their kids were having trouble "fitting in." That's what I did. It turned out great.
37 posted on 10/15/2003 7:44:30 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: webwizard
Thank you for your concern for my ability to spell. Despite being a National Merit Scholar I am dyslexic(sp) and have never been a good speller, a problem that gets worse when I have a headache. Both are problems I had to deal with while in school. Nor have I ever figured out how to use spell check while being on Freerepublic. So, if you can tell me how to do this it would be a great help.
38 posted on 10/15/2003 8:58:19 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
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40 posted on 10/16/2003 1:32:27 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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