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Australian Court Hears Muslim Complaint Against Christians
CNSNews.com ^ | 10/15/03 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 10/15/2003 3:56:10 AM PDT by kattracks

Pacific Rim Bureau (CNSNews.com) - A court case now underway in Australia is regarded by some observers as a legal challenge to Christians' freedom to question the validity of other religions.

Two Christian pastors appeared in a tribunal in the state of Victoria Wednesday to face complaints brought by Muslims who accuse them of vilifying Islam.

The case arose from a seminar organized last year by a Christian organization, Catch the Fire Ministries, with the aim of explaining the teachings of Islam to Christians.

Three Muslims who attended the seminar claimed to have been horrified by what they heard, and they took up the matter with a state Muslim body.

The Islamic Council of Victoria (ICV) then took the case, under new anti-discrimination legislation, to a state body called the Equal Opportunity Commission (EOC).

EOC mediation efforts failed, and the ICV and the three individual Muslims took the pastors to a tribunal, set up under the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

The pastors facing the complaint both have personal experience with Islam.

Catch the Fire president Danny Nalliah worked with underground Christians in Saudi Arabia, while Daniel Scot, who addressed the seminar, is described as an expert in Islamic studies, who fled his native Pakistan for Australia in the 1980s to escape religious persecution.

The complainants charge that Scot and Nalliah engaged in conduct that incited "hatred against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule" of the Islamic faith, citing a number of specific statements they found offensive.

Among others, these related to jihad, suicide bombing, the treatment of non-Muslims in Islamic countries, and the legitimacy of lying for Muslims under certain conditions.

In their 57-page response to the EOC, the pastors said, "Many of the complaints were about statements that are in fact part of the foundations of Islam, some taken straight from the Quran."

In some cases, they said, statements were taken out of context, while others were inaccurate, when compared to recordings of the seminar.

They also claimed that they made "a clear distinction between Muslim people and the teachings of Islam."

A Christian ethical action group in Victoria called Saltshakers is closely following the case.

Executive officer Peter Stokes said all Christians in the state were affected by the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act, "if they stand up and declare the truth."

The Christian gospel -- that Jesus died to save the world and there is no other way to gain eternal life -- is going to be offensive to followers of other faiths because it exposes their religions as "false," he said.

According to the EOC, any offences under the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act can result in fines of up to $3,900 for individuals and $19,800 for organizations.

See earlier story:
Australian Muslims Take Pastors to Court over 'Vilification' (Sept. 15, 2003)


 



TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianpersecution

1 posted on 10/15/2003 3:56:11 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Gee, that leaves followers of the Islamic faith with only one option--kill the nonbelievers of Allah. Oh, they are already doing that.
2 posted on 10/15/2003 4:00:35 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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3 posted on 10/15/2003 4:01:57 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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The Racial and Religious Tolerance Act -- 'But it was such a wonderful Act when we
passed it. We love you and we know that because we love you, you'll love and respect
us back. Please don't hurt us, but if you want to, we can't do anything because we've
tied our own hands behind our backs. We're so loving....'

What jackass numbskulls!
4 posted on 10/15/2003 4:24:45 AM PDT by jigsaw (Grab life by the taglines: TaglinusFR 26 --> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1000017/posts)
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To: kattracks
EOC mediation efforts failed, and the ICV and the three individual Muslims took the pastors to a tribunal, set up under the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

Coming soon to America, mark my words.

5 posted on 10/15/2003 4:26:05 AM PDT by Imal (Say, didn't the United Nations General Assembly also vote for the pink M&M?)
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To: kattracks
Catch the Fire president Danny Nalliah worked with underground Christians in Saudi Arabia, while Daniel Scot, who addressed the seminar, is described as an expert in Islamic studies, who fled his native Pakistan for Australia in the 1980s to escape religious persecution.

Sounds like these fellows have some practical experience with the Religion of Peace.

6 posted on 10/15/2003 4:27:33 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Imal
I agree.
7 posted on 10/15/2003 4:27:59 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
I wonder if anyone has looked into what the Muslims are teaching in their mosques in Australia? My guess is that the sermons heard there will easily fall under the Act but no one has the courage to bring this up.
8 posted on 10/15/2003 4:34:19 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Zack Nguyen
Note that both Saud andPakist are our 'allies' to whom we've pumped a lot of dough and weapons.
9 posted on 10/15/2003 4:38:18 AM PDT by Cronos (W2004)
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To: kattracks
More reasons to exclude Muslims from Western countries.
10 posted on 10/15/2003 4:52:24 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
They won't let anyone record what goes on in a mosque. And there is no first amendment in Australia. What a bummer for these guys. With the general antipathy toward Christians and no Constitutional protection, I'm afraid these guys will lose. People need to know the truth about the ROP. It can't stand the light of the Bible and Christ for a second.
11 posted on 10/15/2003 5:11:29 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: happygrl
Ironic that Muslims come to the West to destroy it, use our laws to try to prevent Christians from sounding the alarm and examining Islam's teachings, and then make us out to be hate-mongers. Using liberal PC nonsense to muzzle free-speech, Muslims have enticed many into their insane world of opposite values.
12 posted on 10/15/2003 5:36:21 AM PDT by fatidic
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To: happygrl
"More reasons to exclude Muslims from Western countries."

Yes, this may in the end, be our only option.


13 posted on 10/15/2003 5:42:26 AM PDT by jocon307 (GO RUSH GO)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
I wonder if anyone has looked into what the Muslims are teaching in their mosques in Australia? My guess is that the sermons heard there will easily fall under the Act but no one has the courage to bring this up.

This is true. Let's be honest - the law was probably put in place to go after Christians.

14 posted on 10/15/2003 5:45:49 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: kattracks
Looks like when Australia decided to make itself a country it missed the "revolution" part and grant itself freedoms. Not too late to start.
15 posted on 10/15/2003 5:48:31 AM PDT by sergeantdave (You will be judged by 12 people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty)
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To: kattracks
these related to jihad, suicide bombing, the treatment of non-Muslims in Islamic countries...

If the shoe fits...

16 posted on 10/15/2003 6:17:19 AM PDT by BubbaBasher (Diversity is something that should be overcome, not celebrated.)
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