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Archbishop of Canterbury to take hard line on gay clergy at summit
The Independent (UK) ^ | 13 October 2003 | Cahal Milno

Posted on 10/14/2003 9:36:36 AM PDT by Eala

The Archbishop of Canterbury is expected to side with conservatives in the Anglican communion on the issue of homosexuality to prevent a schism at this week's meeting of church leaders, a cleric claimed yesterday.

Rowan Williams has called the 38 primates leading the world's 70 million Anglicans to Lambeth Palace for an emergency summit on the ordination of gay clergy. He is prepared to reiterate the church's official view reached five years ago that homosexuality is "incompatible with scripture".

The two-day meeting in London was called after the election in America of Canon Gene Robinson, an openly gay priest with a long-term partner, as Bishop of New Hampshire. It threatens to be one of the most divisive.

A group of up to 30 conservative archbishops, many from Africa and America, is expected to demand the expulsion from the Anglican communion of the United States Episcopalian Church, which approved Canon Robinson's appointment. A survey for The World This Weekend on BBC Radio 4 found about two thirds of the primates opposed to gay priests.

Dr Williams, widely perceived as having liberal views when he was appointed last year, ran into controversy in July when Canon Jeffrey John, who had been made bishop- elect of Reading, resigned after meetings with him.

One cleric involved with the meeting this Wednesday said: "It looks as if the position [of Dr Williams] will be as it has been hitherto --­ homosexuality is not permissible in scripture. This is also the view of the conservative majority who want the pro-gay movement expelled." Dr Williams will not want matters to go that far. Among the options will be an international commission on sexuality or for so-called flying bishops to be appointed to cater for hardline clergy working in liberal dioceses.

But feeling among conservatives may be so high that only an outright condemnation of the US Episcopalian Church will stop them walking out and causing a split. Evangelical leaders in America are reported to have held meetings with lawyers on how the assets of the Episcopalian Church should be divided between the two camps.

A spokesman for one of the key hardliners, Peter Akinola, Archbishop of Nigeria, whose Church of Nigeria accounts for a third of all Anglicans, said that recognising sexual diversity ­ as proposed by the pro-gay lobby ­ was unacceptable.

He said: "This is a departure from the teachings handed down from the fathers of faith and the word of God in the holy scriptures." Campaigners for gay rights, who claim the support of half those attending the summit, said that relegating homosexuals to a lesser status would itself be against scripture.

The Reverend Richard Kirker, of the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement, said: "To relegate lesbians and gays to second-class Christians would be anathema to the Gospels which preach equality ... of treatment for all. "


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aac; anglican; archbishop; bishop; canterbury; ecusa; episcopal; fallout; gay; homo; homos; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; lambda; lambeth; perversion; primates; rowanwilliams; schism; uk
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1 posted on 10/14/2003 9:36:36 AM PDT by Eala
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To: ahadams2; trad_anglican
ping
2 posted on 10/14/2003 9:39:15 AM PDT by Eala (Note to ELF: it's "Burnt SieNNa," not "Burnt SieRRa!")
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To: All
A Recall AND a Fundraiser? I'm toast.
Let's get this over with FAST. Please contribute!

3 posted on 10/14/2003 9:49:58 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Eala
To relegate lesbians and gays to second-class Christians would be anathema to the Gospels which preach equality ... of treatment for all. "

"equality of treatment" does not mean "inclusion" of unrepentant sinners. The "reverand" ought to know this.

Apples and Oranges. My how the homo lobby loves to play "Apple and Oranges. . .

i.e. Jesus himself said to treat "slaves" well. In this, he did not advocate - nor deny the right or wrong of slavery, nor the "lesser" status of slaves.
4 posted on 10/14/2003 9:51:38 AM PDT by Roughneck (9 out of 10 Terrorists prefer Democrats, the rest prefer Saddam Hussein)
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To: Eala
"This is a departure from the teachings handed down from the fathers of faith and the word of God in the holy scriptures."

AMEN bump.

FMCDH

5 posted on 10/14/2003 9:56:48 AM PDT by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Eala; ahadams2; trad_anglican
The druid wants to keep his job?
6 posted on 10/14/2003 10:17:00 AM PDT by malakhi (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.)
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To: malakhi
oh not just that - he wants to be able to hold onto all the perks, AND keep his job...besides Mrs. archdruid just got everything the way she wanted it after the big move down from Wales last winter and there's no way they're moving again before the end of the year!:-)
7 posted on 10/14/2003 10:22:47 AM PDT by ahadams2 ( Anglicanism: the next reformation begins NOW)
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To: ahadams2; Grampa Dave; AnAmericanMother; sweetliberty; N. Theknow; Ray'sBeth; mel; ...
other got there first Ping. :-)
8 posted on 10/14/2003 10:28:54 AM PDT by ahadams2 ( Anglicanism: the next reformation begins NOW)
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To: Eala
Archbishop of Canterbury to take hard line on gay clergy at summit

clever title; forces you to read the article to see which side he's taking

9 posted on 10/14/2003 11:04:59 AM PDT by putupon (All right you tightwads, JimRob needs the bucks to run this show, get up off some of it.)
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To: Eala
Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement

Students!! Please pay attention! Here we have an excellent example of the rare double oxymoron.

Not only is Lesbian oxymoronic with Christan, but Gay is also oxymoronic with Christian. Observe this well. You don't see doubly oxymoronic expressions very often. Class dismissed!

10 posted on 10/14/2003 11:14:40 AM PDT by upchuck (This Tag Line be blank on porpoise :)
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To: Eala
Exacxtly which of the Gospels does the Reverend Mr.Kirker believe supports his notion that unrepentent sinners are to play an equal role in the Church?
11 posted on 10/14/2003 11:44:46 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
OK, so the spelling of exacxtly wasn't all that exact.
12 posted on 10/14/2003 11:46:57 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Oh, but it was. Exacxtly wrong. *\;-)
13 posted on 10/14/2003 12:09:12 PM PDT by Eala (Note to ELF: it's "Burnt SieNNa," not "Burnt SieRRa!")
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To: Eala
Thanks for posting this.

If this is true and is carried throughout the meeting: "Rowan Williams has called the 38 primates leading the world's 70 million Anglicans to Lambeth Palace for an emergency summit on the ordination of gay clergy. He is prepared to reiterate the church's official view reached five years ago that homosexuality is "incompatible with scripture".

Maybe, we can have some recalls of the Perverted Bishops!

14 posted on 10/14/2003 12:19:06 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Fight Liberalism 24/7/365 for only 17 cents / day. Donate $5 monthly to Free Republic.)
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To: Eala
Rowan Williams has called the 38 primates leading the world's 70 million Anglicans

Primates? I thought Primates were the biological order in which chimpanzees and gorillas are assigned?
15 posted on 10/14/2003 12:25:23 PM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Step on no pets. Anna: Did Otto peep? Otto: Did Anna?)
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To: saluki_in_ohio
Sigh. Everyone wants to be cute:

Main Entry: pri-mate
Pronunciation: \\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English primat, from Old French, from Medieval Latin primat-, primas archbishop, from Latin, leader, from primus
Date:13th century

1 often capitalized : a bishop who has precedence in a province, group of provinces, or a nation
2 archaic : one first in authority or rank : LEADER
3 [New Latin Primates, from Latin, plural of primat-, primas] : any of an order (Primates) of mammals comprising humans, apes, monkeys, and related forms (as lemurs and tarsiers)

–primateship \\ noun
–primatial \\ adjective

16 posted on 10/14/2003 12:38:02 PM PDT by Eala (Note to ELF: it's "Burnt SieNNa," not "Burnt SieRRa!")
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To: Roughneck
anathema to the Gospels which preach equality ... of treatment for all.

Just where in the Bible is this statement? Maybe the good rev can enlighten us, 'cause I don't remember it.

17 posted on 10/14/2003 12:41:18 PM PDT by Martin Tell
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To: Eala
OK, if the Archbishop of Canterbury does "take the hardline", what will happen to the gay and lesbian priests already ordained? Will they have to leave their parishes?
18 posted on 10/14/2003 12:42:24 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Eala
SPOTREP - ANGLICAN
19 posted on 10/14/2003 12:49:38 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Eala
Sigh. Everyone wants to be cute

Relax, I take the appointment of a gay bishop in the Episcopal Church to be a serious issue. I know the Bible has criteria for the office of Bishop in I Timothy 3:2-7 and being a homosexual surely disqualifies a person for such an office.
20 posted on 10/14/2003 12:50:28 PM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Step on no pets. Anna: Did Otto peep? Otto: Did Anna?)
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