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Soaking the rich: The enduring myth
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 10/16/03 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 10/14/2003 8:45:25 AM PDT by mikeb704

Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) is worrying more these days. Understandably. Even in a field of remarkably lackluster candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination, he finds himself falling behind.

Wesley "I have more waffles than IHOP" Clark is ahead of him in recent polls. Even Dr. Dean, he of the grim intensity that borders on creepy, is running even with the party’s 2000 vice presidential nominee.

The contenders, like contenders of all parties for all races, claim they have new visions, new ideas, and new paradigms. They’ve got fresh, innovative answers for today’s problems.

But desperate times call for desperate measures. So Joe’s picked up the Democratic playbook looking for something, anything, that’ll boost his popularity among the original thinkers who vote in Democratic primaries.

He’s decided to try an oldie but a goodie. The rich, Senator Lieberman has determined, aren’t paying their fair share of taxes.

On Monday, Mr. Lieberman pledged to "restore fairness to the tax code." Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

It should. Democrats have been singing that tune for a very long time.

In 1972, George McGovern’s campaign literature charged that the average wage earner was forced "to pay more than his fair share in taxes" because those blankety blank rich folks exploited so many loopholes.

Fairness, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Let’s look at how the rich are treated when it comes to taxes.

In 2002, taxpayers in the top one percent bracket coughed up more than 37 percent of all the Federal personal income taxes paid. The top five percent provided over 56 percent of personal income taxes paid.

By contrast, taxpayers in the bottom half carried less than four percent of the entire income tax burden.

These figures weren’t conjured up by the vast right-wing conspiracy. They came from the Internal Revenue Service.

And who are the rich that the Leftists want to soak? Be careful here, because you might be one of them.

If you had an adjusted gross income (AGI) in 2002 of $27,682, you’re in the top half. $55,225 places you in the top quarter.

Insisting the wealthy (without identifying precisely what they mean by that term) pay their fair share is a diversion that draws attention away from the basic problem of how expensive government is.

Right now, the Federal government spends over $69,000 per second. Gouging the wealthy to pay for that may have some appeal to the uninformed who don’t know what the Left means by "wealthy", but the cold reality is there simply aren’t enough rich people to do it.

Unless, of course, you characterize those with an AGI of $27,682 as obscenely affluent.

Congress passed an income tax law in 1913. At the time, fewer than one American out of a hundred had to pay. Rates started at one percent and ended at seven percent for those making more than half a million dollars a year.

In "David Brinkley: A Memoir," the journalist writes that the income tax "was voted into law by people who were confident it would punish the rich they despised while they themselves would never have to pay it. Envy and resentment carried the day. In the U.S. Congress it still does."

That’s true. If Senator Lieberman wanted to suggest something genuinely fair, he’d recommend that we throw out the current system. It’s filled with exclusions, credits, deductions, preferences, loopholes and suffocating amounts of red tape.

Replace it with a flat rate mechanism, perhaps one based on consumption. Everyone pays the same percentage.

Special interests will no longer congregate in Washington to lobby for special tax treatment. Taxpayers will finally understand the system and will no longer need armies of advisors, accountants and lawyers to complete their returns for them.

Catching cheaters will be easier because the system will much simpler.

Now that’s what I call fair.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: fairness; governmentspending; incometax; lieberman; michaelmbates; taxes
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Don't Tax You, Don't Tax Me, Tax the Fella Behind the Tree
1 posted on 10/14/2003 8:45:26 AM PDT by mikeb704
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2 posted on 10/14/2003 8:55:12 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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his "top two brackets" that he wants both the tax break rolled back on and taxes raised on start at about $130,000 for a married couple filling jointly as I understand it.

In many areas of the country this is not even close to affluence.

3 posted on 10/14/2003 9:12:59 AM PDT by KC Burke
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Wesley "I have more waffles than IHOP" Clark

International House of Pancakes.

Maybe they meant Waffle House?

Jeeze

4 posted on 10/14/2003 9:14:58 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (http://www.strangesolutions.com)
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To: mikeb704
Get rid of the IRS, get rid of income tax and go with a national sales tax.

Save to show my liberal friends.
5 posted on 10/14/2003 9:35:14 AM PDT by Sergio (...but mine goes to 11.)
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To: NotQuiteCricket
Maybe they did mean IHOP, which does sell waffles and, with over 1,100 outlets, probably sells a lot of them.
6 posted on 10/14/2003 9:57:30 AM PDT by mikeb704
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Waffle House isn't everywhere: IHOP is. And more's the pity: there aren't many north of the Mason-Dixon line....

It's definitely a "red zone" chain. . .

7 posted on 10/14/2003 10:29:17 AM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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Think of it this way, to balance the budget why don't we just start with the richest person in the U.S., seize ALL their assets, and proceed to the next and the next until the budget is balanced? What is wrong with that?
8 posted on 10/14/2003 10:36:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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Think of it this way, to balance the budget why don't we just start with the richest person in the U.S., seize ALL their assets, and proceed to the next and the next until the budget is balanced? What is wrong with that?

There are going to be some red faces among the Democrats who didn't come up with that idea first.

9 posted on 10/14/2003 12:07:29 PM PDT by mikeb704
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To: Sergio
Save to show my liberal friends.

You will probably have to read it to them, right?

10 posted on 10/14/2003 12:10:46 PM PDT by mikeb704
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To: Salgak
I confess to never having heard of Waffle House, possibly because there are only two of them in the Land of Lincoln.
11 posted on 10/14/2003 12:12:24 PM PDT by mikeb704
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IMOHO, the term "tax the rich" is a misnomer. Wages and salaries is on the INCOME statment. Whereas the rich have healty BALANCE SHEETS. If a family of 4 earns $100,000, it pays about 50% in taxes. Then there's the mortgage payment, college tuition, etc. Are they rich?
12 posted on 10/14/2003 12:14:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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13 posted on 10/14/2003 12:52:01 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Last week someone called to ask Rush what percentage of the income was earned by the top 1% of earners; the answer (as of a couple of years ago) was, Rush said, about 21%. And the percentage of the taxes paid by that 1% was something over 40%.

That struck me as an excellent way of emphasizing the "progressivity" of the tax code:

"The top 20% of income pays 40% of the income tax."
IMHO there's no need to add that the top 20% of income goes to 1% of the earners; count on the Democrats to point that out.

But in fact the percentage of taxes paid by the top earners went up when Kemp-Roth tax cuts went into effect. So raising more revenue from "the rich" is not as simple as just jacking up the tax rate and raking in the dough.

14 posted on 10/14/2003 1:37:06 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Think of it this way, to balance the budget why don't we just start with the richest person in the U.S., seize ALL their assets, and proceed to the next and the next until the budget is balanced? What is wrong with that?

Some should create a set of charts to show just how very short this would go. I remember calculating it many years ago and you realize REAL quick that the even the Uber Rich don't have enough money to pay for everything. The government would be able to apend their assets in a matter of a couple months, then you're stuck.

15 posted on 10/14/2003 2:10:08 PM PDT by Clock King
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P.S. problem is, we all know that liberals were terrible at math in high school and probably avoided it as much as possible in college. So don't expect they to be open to such hard evidence.

"Math is Haarrddd...! That technology stuff confuses me..!"

16 posted on 10/14/2003 2:14:36 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: mikeb704
No they won't. Guys like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Ted Turner all give a lot of money to Democrats and leftist causes. The dirty little secret of the Democrats is that they really are the party of the exordinarly rich and could not survive without them and the organizations that front for them. It is the middle and upper middle class shmoes that are really getting soaked by 'soak the rich' politics.
17 posted on 10/14/2003 2:39:00 PM PDT by Flying Circus (As you do pray, so you do believe)
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To: Cobra64
I'm rather pleased that I managed to structure my financial affairs so that I wound up paying only about 17% of my income in taxes.

Killer mortgages in California will do that, though.
18 posted on 10/14/2003 3:21:27 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Clock King
I remember calculating it many years ago and you realize REAL quick that the even the Uber Rich don't have enough money to pay for everything. The government would be able to apend their assets in a matter of a couple months, then you're stuck.

J. Peter Grace wrote in 1984 that ". . .if we take all income above $75,000 a year that isn't already taxed, take it all, leave no one above $75,000, we'd raise the sum of $17 billion, enough to run the government for about ten days."

19 posted on 10/14/2003 4:14:58 PM PDT by mikeb704
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My proposal, 5%NRST and thats it no income tax. I can't believe Bush won't get on the NRST band wagon.
20 posted on 10/14/2003 4:17:36 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Take NO PRISONERS)
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