[Keyes2000mt]

Bump!

An excellent summary of where we're at.

[John H K]

Yawn. Whatever.

Seems there's about a normal level of division in the country.

It's normal for there to be a great deal of political hatred and conflict; cooperation and consensus is ABNORMAL in US history.

Really sort of odd in the last 10 years or so that people are suddenly getting their panties in a bunch over any sort of political conflict or disagreement at all.

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[lainde]

excellent insight!

[henderson field]

But...but...but...I thought diversity was good for us. That's what I've been told. Over and over and over.

[orlop9]

Great Post, but with a title like that it won't be long before this gets turned into the nightly North/South argument.

[MissAmericanPie]

If both sides wore distinguishing uniforms the war would have begun already, I'm guessing.

[steplock]

bump!!

[There's millions of'em]

"Of course, one obvious difference between the two is that this Second Civil War is (thus far) non-violent..."

Only if you choose to ignore abortion.

[Qwinn]

Good link.

I buy the premise. When I was growing up, the overarching theme was "United We Stand, Divided We Fall". Both sides of the political debate agreed on at least that unifying principle.

Today, half the country stand for "United Is Bad - Diversity Is Everything". There's the profound difference that is bringing us ever closer to civil war.

Qwinn

[Eastbound]

I don't see it as a second civil war, ala north vs south, but more like a Second War of Independence.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

The Second Civil War will not be about the Dem/Rep divide, it will be the Citizens against the Government tyranny, as it was in the first Civil War.

We have many divides with apparently deaf politicians. Tho there are many differences, the three biggies appear to be:

Immigration and Illegal Immigration vs. taxpayers and American workers, Free Trade vs. American Workers and Sovereignty vs. Globalist government.

THAT will cause the War, not Dem/Rep ideals.

[Greybird]

On the other hand, there is probably more hatred between the opposing sides today than there was during the First Civil War.

Clueless. Utterly clueless. Go to the microfiche, or any of a host of scholarly books, and actually read some of the vitriol that poured out of newspapers of the 1860s, before, during, and after the war. That was before shibboleths of "objectivity," honored more in the breach, took over and made journalism into pious posturing.

Newspapers had viewpoints then, and made no hypocritical bones about them. And John Brown could have been goaded into the Harpers Ferry raid from a few New England anti-slavery papers alone.

[Ogmios]

Excellent post, will you ping me for part 2?

Thanks

[backhoe]

Civil War II "The Comming Breakup of America" A Checklist, by Thomas W. Chittum
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991163/posts

[Travis McGee]

Road to Civil War Ping.

[ravinson]

On the other side are those on the Right -- conservatives, rightists and libertarians...

Libertarians are not on the right; we're in the middle of the political spectrum -- but on a plane of thought high above the stuck-in-the-mud left and right wingers.

[driftless]

We always have to remember that most Dems are not liberals even though ultra-libs call the shots and have been for the last thirty years. My own solution would be a temporary (and highly impractical) split for five years where Dem-voters would get their freedom from us nasty right-wingers. Ninety percent would be demanding to be let back into the Republican country after one year of being ruled by Comrades Nader, H.Clinton, Kucinich, Chomsky, and Sharpton.

[Jimmy Valentine]

"And the conservative hatred of former President Bill Clinton was equally deep."

I for one do not consider this to be in past tense.

regards,

[Publius6961]

And the conservative hatred of former President Bill Clinton was equally deep.

I love Dennis and normally he is quite rational and sober about discussions like this one.
But his pandering for PC and weasel attempts at moral equivalency in this case makes me cringe.

No matter how disgusted we non-liberals were with the First Rapist, we felt no need to mutter daily about our hatred and frustration at being unable politically to do him in.
We suffered through the "politics of destruction", and the Orwellianisms, but as adults, accepted the fact that nothing is forever.

By way of contrast, the petulance and physical seething childish behavior of the "progressives", the frustrated socialists, is palpable real ever more vicious and verbal; in your face.
I literally refuse to discuss anything political with these neurotics, and just wish Dennis would call a spade a spade.