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TOLERATING RUSH LIMBAUGH
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | 10/13/03 | Tom Bevan

Posted on 10/13/2003 7:21:20 PM PDT by NYC Republican

I was one of three panelists on Bruce DuMont's "Beyond the Beltway" radio/television show last night. Bruce had planned on spending the first 20 minutes or so of the program discussing Rush Limbaugh and then moving on to other issues like the California recall election, the war in Iraq, and the 2004 Democrat presidential race.

But within minutes of mentioning Rush's name, the phone lines lit up like a Christmas tree and stayed that way for the next 2 hours. Comments from callers ranged all across the board: everything from "he's a scumbag hypocrite who got what he deserved" all the way to "liberals are liars and cheats with no moral standing on which to judge others." Talk about your rollercoaster.

Anyway, as the only Republican/conservative on the panel, I ended up in the somewhat unenviable position of trying to defend Limbaugh's alleged drug habit. Actually, let me rephrase that. I really didn't defend Rush's actions other than to say I thought that 1) he had a personal problem that required treatment, 2) he made a courageous and poignant effort in addressing the issue on Friday and 3) he should face the consequences of his actions if he's convicted of breaking the law. Maybe this will lead to Rush doing some time, maybe it won't (I'm not a lawyer but I'd be surprised if a first offense will result in Rush going to prison). The point is that Rush Limbaugh shouldn't be above the law.

What I did defend over the course of the show, however, is the predictable argument that conservatives are all hypocrites because they dare to discuss "values" and "morality" and then have the nerve to defend people, including some of the most notable leaders of the movement like Limbaugh and Bill Bennett, whose own personal failings, vices, sins, etc. are exposed.

First, let me say I will concede that, generally speaking, people don't like to be "lectured to." I'll also concede that people have every right to look at an individual's past actions to make a critical evaluation of their positions and/or credibility on a given issue.

But the core of the liberal argument is that in order for anyone to discuss "morality" or "values" of any kind, he or she must be an absolute paragon of virtue in every respect. This is absurd on its face. Taking this argument to its logical conclusion would result in a very small group of people having a very brief discussion on morality in American life - probably somewhere in the middle of Kansas.

I may decide I don't want to take Rush Limbaugh's advice on drugs, Bill Bennett's advice on gambling, or have Bill Clinton give me tips on marriage, but that doesn't mean these men should be automatically disqualified from discussing "values" or "morality" in any way - especially as they relate to the formulation of public policy in this country.

One panelist actually told me the difference between liberals and conservatives is that "we preach tolerance, you preach morality" - as if the two are somehow mutually exclusive. I almost laughed. "That's it America! You can be either A) moral and intolerant or B) tolerant and immoral. Make your choice."

In one sense, though, the panelist was correct: the term "tolerance" has become the all encompassing catchphrase of liberals and progressives everywhere. It has, in effect, become their morality.

"Tolerance" used to stand for the simple idea of religious and racial freedom and equality. It used to stand for the concept that while we may not necessarily agree with each other, we would strive to see and respect each other as American citizens, equal in the eyes of God and the law.

Unfortunately, that's only a small part of what "tolerance" stands for today. The word "tolerance" has now been expanded to encompass a whole host of issues, from abortion-on-demand to affirmative action to homosexual marriage to school choice. The list is practically endless.

And by collating all of these various issues under the umbrella of "tolerance," liberals have now defined any opposition to these policies - irrespective of fact, debate or merit - as "intolerant." End of discussion.

This is one reason why, I believe, a good number of liberals have come to see conservatives not just as fellow citizens with a differing world view, but as truly hateful, nasty people who want to roll back the clock to the days of Jim Crow, child labor and back-alley abortions.

It's an astonishing feat, really. Progressives have spent the last few decades carving America up into tiny little pieces, nurturing and germinating a multitude of hyphenated interest groups, and at the same time they've managed to boil everything down to singular litmus test of tolerance.

It's been an effective strategy - especially as practiced in the last decade by Bill Clinton. But the result hasn't been such a good thing for the country. We've now seen the concept of "tolerance" turned on its head. Today "tolerance" is used as a bludgeon to intimidate opponents and stifle debate, and its most devoted practioners are really and truly the least tolerant people in America. - T. Bevan 10:34 a


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1 posted on 10/13/2003 7:21:21 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
I think that the housekeeper for Rush Limbaugh may have meant her tale to do him ill, but in fact, she may have saved Rush Limbaugh's life. for which I thank her. I have seen more than one person addicted to pain killers, and it is not a criminal act, for it is an act to try to escape unbearable pain. I hope this all works out for the good.
2 posted on 10/13/2003 7:25:47 PM PDT by tessalu
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3 posted on 10/13/2003 7:27:25 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: NYC Republican
More Ruch stuff to read later.
4 posted on 10/13/2003 7:29:59 PM PDT by dix
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To: NYC Republican
It's so easy to throw stones......
5 posted on 10/13/2003 7:30:22 PM PDT by GregB
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To: tessalu
SHe sold her story to the National Enquirer. There are no good intentions when one does that.
6 posted on 10/13/2003 7:30:56 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: NYC Republican
The only "Lexus-Nexus" reference Rush made to drugs (culled from all of his transcripts reposited there) was one in 1995, made BEFORE his back surgery, I believe.

I've always listened to Rush and I've never heard him "lecture" anyone on drugs. He goes off on the Medicare prescription drug issue ("Why should a person of average income end up paying for Bill Gates' drug prescriptions?") but I've never heard address the issue of illegal/prescription drug use one way or the other.
7 posted on 10/13/2003 7:31:38 PM PDT by soozla (Twoallbeefpattiesspecialsaucelettucecheesepicklesonionsonasesameseedbun!!)
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To: NYC Republican
First, let me say I will concede that, generally speaking, people don't like to be "lectured to."

No one tells other people how to live with greater zeal than a liberal tells other people how to live.

8 posted on 10/13/2003 7:32:35 PM PDT by stevem
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To: tessalu
"I think that the housekeeper for Rush Limbaugh may have meant her tale to do him ill, but in fact, she may have saved Rush Limbaugh's life. for which I thank her. I have seen more than one person addicted to pain killers, and it is not a criminal act, for it is an act to try to escape unbearable pain. I hope this all works out for the good."

I've had similar thoughts, tessalu. In fact, I think that Rush's housekeeper may have imperiled herself in that the authorities often go after the supplier and not the addict. If she was his supplier as it appears, she may be looking at jail time herself.

9 posted on 10/13/2003 7:40:08 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: NYC Republican
Dang - this article is good. It states well the difference between those who seek, and those who deny, a higher moral authority.

Bump.

10 posted on 10/13/2003 7:42:19 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: tessalu
Exactly. Ever notice how the Tolerance Police have no tolerance for someone who is suffering and in pain?
11 posted on 10/13/2003 7:43:21 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: NYC Republican
Libs only "tolerate" those who share their views. Anyone else is deemed "intolerant". (Ironic!) Oh, and the unwritten rule is "never tolerate Christians."
12 posted on 10/13/2003 7:46:58 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (He is no fool who would give what he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose. - Jim Elliot)
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To: soozla

but I've never heard address the issue of illegal/prescription drug use one way or the other.

I do not recall nor can I find any mention of Rush Limbaugh's

The most recent statement about the issue of illegal drugs by Rush that I have been able to find, I believe this was after his back surgery:

 

Transcript Of Rush Limbaugh On Legalizing Drugs
March 12, 1998

RUSH:

** Based on the reality of how we're going after cigarette smokers, The thing that we cannot do in the drug fight right now is regulate because it's illegal.  Drugs are against the law and so the manufacturers are illegal.  They're not even on shore they're down there in Columbia and the Calli Cartel and they're working to poison the brains and minds of the future of America.  And so what we do is to try to keep those drugs from getting in.  And I agree with you that it's a half baked effort. 

** But what are we doing with cigarettes.  Well we are punishing the manufacturers We're suing them left and right we're going to cause them to settle out of court for $368 billion.  We're gonna let them keep making them but then we're going to have the price go way way up so that we ostensibly say by virtue of that we don't want anybody to smoke cigarettes anymore and we're going to try to price it out of most peoples existence but we're going to raise those prices and most of that money will be taxes and we're going to use that money for health care programs for our kids and so forth. 

*** It seems to me that what is missing in the drug fight is legalization.  If we want to go after drugs with the same fervor and intensity with which we go after cigarettes let's legalize drugs.  Legalize the manufacture of drugs.  Licence the Calli Cartel make them tax payers and then sue them.  Sue them left and right and then get control of the price and generate tax revenue from it.  Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs. 

**** Because it seems to me, flippant as though it may sound to you, that what gives us the power to do what we're doing, what gives the government the _power_ to do what it is doing, state and federal, in cigarettes is that it's a legal substance regulated by uh the federal government.  And they don't have any such power and control over drugs because it's illegal. 

**** So let's legalize them and then go after them the same way. 


13 posted on 10/13/2003 7:47:48 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: NYC Republican
A well written article. It clearly points out the lefts indignation and intolerence towards conservatives. A growing trend from the liberal establishment. Forty years of this crap is enough.
14 posted on 10/13/2003 7:49:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: ancient_geezer
OOPS:

Should be: "I do not recall nor can I find any past mention of Rush Limbaugh's concerning use of "prescription" drugs.

15 posted on 10/13/2003 7:50:37 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: NYC Republican
bttt
16 posted on 10/13/2003 7:50:49 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: ancient_geezer
At this point in time, I respect Limbaugh more than ever. Can you imagine what it was like to tell your audience that? Also, I agree with your assessment. About the only negative things I've ever heard Rush say is "dope-smoking-maggot-infested-fm-dj types". I also believe he objected to them being fm dj's more than he objected to them smoking dope.

The left hates Limbaugh because he changed the balance of power. The only person they hate more than Limbaugh is Reagan. Also, since Reagan's career is over, they hate Limbaugh more. George Will and William Buckley were the preferred conservatives. They were like the old Republican party. They are polite, and sit in on round tables, and speak their two minutes and are still elitists. They're happy with their handouts from the liberal elite, they get respectability, and they allow the elitists to pretend they are "fair and balanced."

Limbaugh is the gypsy in the palace. He turns over tables and challenges their preconceptions. I'll tell you something else. Two weeks before he said it there were fifty freeper threads a week about sports media and their bias. Also, Limbaugh was right about McNabb, and as soon as the dust clears and Berman and Jackson can crawl out from under their beds, they'll admit McNabb was over-rated, but they'll never admit why. And anybody who thinks Rush is wrong explain to me the difference in the press treatment of John Rocker and Ray Lewis.

17 posted on 10/13/2003 8:21:15 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: soozla
Amen for your post! I searched everywhere and the last drug rant Bush had was in 1995 but the liberals act as though that's all he does. I have done a complete flip-flop on some of my issues which doesn't make me a hypocrite but shows I'm open to other views. Now, the liberals are accusing him of buying box loads of illegal Cuban cigars. They are out to get him and any conservative who has an audience, like Sean Hannity, for instance. Sean will eat them alive so I hope they go for the jugular.
18 posted on 10/13/2003 8:26:32 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: soozla
Does Lexus Nexus archive his radio show, or is the quote you reference from his televison show. I've never found an archice of his radio show.
19 posted on 10/13/2003 8:30:52 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: ancient_geezer
where did you find this archive?
20 posted on 10/13/2003 8:34:21 PM PDT by joesbucks
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