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Rush's Bum Rap (Cavuto)
FOX News ^ | 10/13/03 | Neil Cavuto

Posted on 10/13/2003 2:19:45 PM PDT by abnegation

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Rush Limbaugh is off the air. But his critics are only just now getting on his back. As he tries to kick his prescription drug habit, those who hate him are just kicking him. I say, give it a rest.


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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: cavuto; eib; limbaugh; lovablefuzzball; maharushie; rant; rush; rushlimbaugh
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To: ravinson
I read not with rose colored glasses but with a keen eye for words and their meaning. With one exception, the topic of drugs is on the periphery of each of the quotations you offer.

Drugs themselves ruin more lives that the "war on drugs" ever will. Drugs -- not the "war on drugs" -- would have ruined Rush's life had he continued to use them.

We just aren't going to allow you to ruin his life and his future, simply because you have this axe to grind.
161 posted on 10/13/2003 5:24:05 PM PDT by zook
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To: Thebaddog
Is there a return date? I want his numbers to be through the roof to stick them to Moore.

I am kind of worried. In Seattle they replaced Rush's show with some guy named Rusty. Hope he is coming back to Seattle.
162 posted on 10/13/2003 5:26:05 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: Fpimentel
You really think Rush is going to change his opinions on drugs and their legal status?

Not now, because he's painted himself into a dark corner.

If anything, Rush would want tougher law enforcement to stop the drug pushers and to make it less likely that these drugs could end up on the street.

Don't count in it. He may have been supplying others (or conspiring to do so).

Rush is an example of why drugs are restricted and made illegal.

And why is that? So good people like Rush won't ruin their lives taking them? How have the drug laws helped him? Did they make it easier for him to publicly acknowledge and overcome his problem? Did drug laws make it easier for him to seek out medical advice about the adverse side effects (eg. hearing loss) from taking large doses of certain painkillers? Did drug laws prevent him from getting harmed by mislabeled street drugs? Did the drug laws help him avoid wasting massive amounts of money to feed his habit?

All the drug laws do is enrich drug warriors, violent drug dealers, and sleazy defense attorneys.

163 posted on 10/13/2003 5:26:15 PM PDT by ravinson
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To: Kiss Me Hardy
"Downey didn't go on air and defend the War on Drugs week after week. That's a big difference."

There are many factions to the so-called war on drugs, some correct in my view and others not.

Rush, as I recall, seemed to be against a carte blanche legalization of drugs but I don't recall him making it a cause celeb.

I know that is not much consolation to those who consider him a hypocrite (with or without the drug thing) but that still leaves the question: Is his stance correct.

I think many if not most people in the US are against criminalization of pot use, and against harsh penalties for personal drug usage.

Should it be legal to manufacture and sell speed, or heroin, or ecstasy, or PCP?

I doubt it.

164 posted on 10/13/2003 5:28:18 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: abnegation
Great post. Cavuto is the best.
165 posted on 10/13/2003 5:31:48 PM PDT by nicksaunt
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To: zook
Drugs themselves ruin more lives that the "war on drugs" ever will.

You make it sound like the drugs jumped out of the cigar box right into Rush's mouth. Drugs are like guns -- if used responsibly they can be very useful. People like you who favor prohibition make it very clear that you're doing it out of your own fear that you lack the self control to take responsibility for what you ingest.

166 posted on 10/13/2003 5:32:47 PM PDT by ravinson
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To: MeeknMing
I don't understand why the left is so happy about this. They didn't listen to Rush before. The people who listened to Rush will continue to do so because Rush has done a very good job of getting people to think for themselves. (Hence the term ditto heads)
The left can be as happy as they want, but it won't take away Rush's audience or influence. This only make them look petty and mean.
167 posted on 10/13/2003 5:35:16 PM PDT by magglepuss
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To: StatesEnemy
Look, this is what we know for sure... Rush has been addicted to opiates (same f'n thing as all those 'dirty' street analogues - morphine, heroin, opium) for upwards of 5 years. This wasn't pain management (see: cancer patients that use MJ) This was pure visceral pleasure seeking.

You're completely wrong! Do you have any idea how devastating severe, long term pain is? I had an uncle who lived the last few years of his life in such terrible pain, he could hardly move. The doctors, including pain specialists were afraid of perscribing doses of oxycontin high enough to relieve his pain for more than a few weeks at a time. They flat out said that if they gave him the doses he needed to control the pain, that over time he would become addicted, and they would get in trouble with the federal authorities. It wasn't until the last weeks of his life that he was hosptialized and placed on a constant morphine drip that he finally got some relief.

I can also tell you from experience that relief from severe, long term pain is WAY different than the recreational use you describe. When I was in high school, I didn't "experiment with drugs." I was running a fully funded research project, and I did inhale... A lot! But I gave up all that while I was in college, in the mid-1980s. However, I know about having a lumbar disk extrude into the spinal canal, putting direct pressure on the spine, and causing permanent nerve damage. I felt as if my right leg was on fire, 24x7. The pain meds that were perscribed for me allowed me to sleep at night. And things were even worse when I had shingles, quite possibly the worst pain I've ever experienced, including the pain from a torsion of the testicle! I was perscribed both oxycontin and hydrocodone. In both cases, the medication allowed me to sleep. With shingles, even the touch of a bed sheet was agony! Without the medication, I would wake myself up every time I moved. And I couldn't take the meds while I was working, during the week. So for nearly a year, I got an everage of maybe 1 - 2 hours of continuous sleep a night during the week. It really takes a toll on you.

Believe it or not, it's possible to take legal drugs, through legal and moral channels and still become addicted to them. It's way different than the people who decide to get stoned. I know... I've done both, although I've never become addicted in either case. But the feeling of euphoria from recreational use is totally different than the feeling of pain relief.

Mark

168 posted on 10/13/2003 5:38:06 PM PDT by MarkL (KC Chiefs: 6 - 0 !!!)
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To: microgood
I am kind of worried. In Seattle they replaced Rush's show with some guy named Rusty. Hope he is coming back to Seattle.

Rush had been scheduled to move from KVI to KTTH for some time, it just happened at about the time this all blew up.

The website says they plan on keeping Rush.

169 posted on 10/13/2003 5:38:34 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: StatesEnemy
Look, this is what we know for sure... Rush has been addicted to opiates (same f'n thing as all those 'dirty' street analogues - morphine, heroin, opium) for upwards of 5 years. This wasn't pain management (see: cancer patients that use MJ) This was pure visceral pleasure seeking.

Gee, I must have missed that "Dr." in front of your name, since you seem to know for sure what's going on.

By your definition, there is no difference among sins, regardless of who gets hurt.

By that logic, anyone who has ever drank alcohol and got behind a wheel is an out of control drunk driver.

And if you applied that logic to every sin, everyone might as well go down to the police station and turn themselves in, cause we are all felons.

170 posted on 10/13/2003 5:39:29 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: not_apathetic_anymore
Rush had been scheduled to move from KVI to KTTH

Thanks for that. Bye Bye KVI (except for the Sage from South Central).
171 posted on 10/13/2003 5:41:37 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: microgood
That's rather odd, "Rusty" was Rush's nickname from his hometown when he was a youngster.
172 posted on 10/13/2003 5:43:27 PM PDT by madison10
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To: StatesEnemy
See ya'.
173 posted on 10/13/2003 5:44:24 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
See ya, nothing.

Jim Rob knows my posts...

174 posted on 10/13/2003 5:48:26 PM PDT by StatesEnemy
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To: alisasny
WOW, Neil took steroids to deal with some issues regarding MS. I wonder if he will be the lefts next target.

I know this was said with sarcasm, but the steroids given are different than anabolic steroids used by athletes. Cortico-Steroids (like prednisone) are really something of a miracle drug, with amazing healing capabilities, but the can have some very serious and dangerous side effects. A good example of what heavy prednisone use can do is to take a look at a recent photo of Jerry Lewis. Other side effects include osteoporosis, heart and kidney problems, water retention, mood swings, depression, weight gain, and hunger that never quits.

I've been taking prednisone since the mid-1980s (for Crohns disease), and while it's done some terrible things to my body, if not for those little pills, I'd have been dead a very long time ago.

Mark

175 posted on 10/13/2003 5:50:46 PM PDT by MarkL (KC Chiefs: 6 - 0 !!!)
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To: magglepuss
I don't understand why the left is so happy about this.

Rush exposed them for the deceitful jerks they are. Of course they are elated to see him falter. The left is all about tolerance except when it comes to tolerance for their 'enemy'. Even when that 'enemy' does the right thing to try to correct his problem. The left is ALL ABOUT HYPOCRISY !!!!!!

The left can be as happy as they want, but it won't take away Rush's audience or influence. This only make them look petty and mean.

That seems to be what the far left is all about, alright, imho - mean and petty. Yet they label the right as Mean Ole Republicans ...

Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy. THAT is the LEFT !!! ...


176 posted on 10/13/2003 5:51:31 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: StatesEnemy
Just what do you have in your bathroom medicine cabinet, enquiring minds want to know.

For someone who thinks Rush is too cocky, you sure come off that way. Does that mean you're really not that good either?

And for anyone else so quick to call Rush a junky, try doing a little research on modern pain medications derived from opiates. You'll find that the euphoric qualities have been processed out of them to a very large degree. Just hope that you're never forced to take them to relieve your pain. For some people there the only thing that can help.

177 posted on 10/13/2003 5:55:16 PM PDT by CarryaBigStick
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To: dyno35
By that logic, anyone who has ever drank alcohol and got behind a wheel is an out of control drunk driver.

By your logic, as long as the alcohol was medicinal all is cool.

Rush knew DAMN WELL what he was doing (elsewise, why the 2 failed attempts at rehab?)

He's a junkie - an articulate junkie - but a junkie nontheless.

178 posted on 10/13/2003 5:55:39 PM PDT by StatesEnemy
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To: Let's Roll
"I listen to him almost everyday and I just don't remember Rush going on about the WOD - the French looking vietnam veteran, golf, football, yes, but not the WOD.

I love and pray for Rush, and am also willing to defend him all the way to the rehab and back from these people who imagine they heard him say things about the WOD.

However, I do remember him saying one day that he never got into the whole "60s hippie drug thing" back when he was a teenager, which I suppose was an admission of sorts.

Nonetheless, Rush's problem is light years away from a junkie who goes out pulling stickups and burglaries and knocking off old ladies for their lunch money.

179 posted on 10/13/2003 5:55:54 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: CarryaBigStick
You'll find that the euphoric qualities have been processed out of them to a very large degree.

LOL... you don't know what the hell your blabbing about... do ya?

180 posted on 10/13/2003 5:57:13 PM PDT by StatesEnemy
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