Posted on 11/10/2020 7:39:47 PM PST by entropy12
I think a re-vote would violate US Law, which sets the date for Federal elections...
The problem with looking at when the ballots were entered into the count is that you would have to prove they were not present when the “election” ended. In other words, once they are brought under the roof how do you tell they arrived afterwards?
I read somewhere that the official ballots had a secret watermark on them.
Some pills are hard to swallow. Maybe next time they wouldn't be so quick to kick out the legally appointed poll watchers.
I think a re-vote would violate US Law, which sets the date for Federal elections...
Yes, but states are allowed to do run-offs per their own legislation. You may be right, but if the court stated there was no other remedy short of invalidating all of the ballots because there is no chain of custody (as required by law), there was no observation (as required by law), and there was no verification (as required by law) then the court may put it back on the legislature.
It is a mess, but ignore the media spin and let us all acknowledge that there is no way to fix it now. It is done.
“My understanding is that they have records of mail-in ballots sent out”
They don’t. Millions of mail-in ballots were dumped all over the place with no way to identify the voter.
There are “clean” records of Absentee Ballots. Although they are sent and receive by mail, they not “mail-in” ballots.
Completely and totally different.
I guess I don’t get what you’re trying to do.
I think I pointed out a whole lot of ways in which any results would be meaningless.
It can’t happen, anyway, and that’s probably a good thing.
It is kind of funny that those who love to sing the praises of “Democracy” say they don’t see anything wrong in what just happened.
I actually prefer your method - invalidate the entire vote.
However, the downside of that would be that the left would blame everyone but their own election officials and the riots would ensue (they probably will anyways).
Only an irrational person could argue with the obvious remedy. In those specific counties hold the vote again and bring in enough poll workers (they would have thousands available from throughout the state) to get the count done quickly.
It’s a punt. Politicians love to punt.
I realize this is unlikely and it would require quick legislation, but what other answer is there because there are very few with the stones to toss an entire county.
That re vote at that location must be vote in-person with their ID checked against voter registry if any
Good point about the run offs, a la Georgia, but I would imagine that law would have to already be in place at the time of the election that took place. Else, you could have a legislature overturn any election they didn’t agree with, by changing laws, forcing re-votes etc endlessly.
This game will play out by the rules already in place. The key will be getting the right judges (courts) to interpret the rules.
I would personally love to see a true vote in these counties. A singular election with judicial oversight to end the arguments once and for all.
Yes, it is probably a pipe dream. However, the other remedies are far more harsh than what I am recommending and the legislature and the courts may see it that way also.
Just a thought.
So constitutionally, this goes to the legislature for that state.
The legislature could say they want this done so they can appoint legitimate electoral college voters. That way “every vote is counted.”
The legislature can legislate. SCOTUS would likely have to approve it. However, how could anyone then say that the votes in that county were illegitimate? The legislature gets to punt it back to the voters so they certify the votes in the counties that were not charlie foxtrots and they consider the votes in the county(s) that were.
Such a special vote must be 1) in person 2) ID and signature checked against voter registry 3) timeout deadline
Does anyone know what the qr code is for that was attached to my ballot and was to be torn off before sending in or dropping off at a collection box as I did here in Washington.
I scan it and it goes to nothing over the internet.
Legal ballots had a watermark that can be seen with a magnifying glass. Fake ballots to not have the watermark.
President Trump expressed concern about mail ballots in May, 2020. His team watched the loser Democrats prepare to steal the election in October and attempt to steal the election in November. All actions of election thieves are recorded. Lawsuits began Monday, November 9, 2020. Some poll workers began confessing to Project Veritas on 11/9. Some statistics scholars are observing artificial, man-made jumps for Biden in the ballot returns. Some lawyers are finding sloppy cheating in Nevada. All cheaters thought they would get away with it. No cheater will escape the wrath of God’s law.
It would, if electors haven't been appointed. And the US Constitution is clear on what the legislature is to do at that point - select electors. Not, re-vote. My interpretation, of course.
There have been cases were a judge ha ordered a re-vote. However it might depend on the state.
We need to understand that fraudulent ballots are irrelevant. It must be understood that paper ballots, mail in ballots, ballots received before they were even mailed, etc. really have no bearing on the matter at hand. Yes there are tens of thousands of such ballots and votes, but who cares?
The real issue is the fraudulent election software that allowed millions and millions of votes to be switched or deleted or even moved from state to state.
Millions
Believe me, I appreciate your enthusiasm.
It would take a Time Machine, however, to go back and get the votes that were “real” on November 3. Anything else is just something else.
As I tried to point out, Demcracy is really a dumb idea, anyway. At its simplest, it’s just a way to get government that probably most people won’t complain about. One of its requirements is the “vote”. Who knew it was so hard.
There’s really very little virtue in the “vote”, and I can’t imagine any value at all in a vote-after-a-vote.
What I am suggesting is something that would be the only non-radical remedy (invalidating all of the votes from that county).
In a sane world, they would be deemed invalid because there is now no way to accurately assess the ballots and verify them. In a sane world, the voters would blame the elections officials that they allegedly voted for.
In the insane world we now live in, how could any “reasonable person” argue against the legislature stating 1) the vote there is invalid as determined by the courts and 2) this is the fairest way to remedy the issue. In other words, this county has one chance to get it right and make their votes count and we will help by bringing in more election officials from throughout the state.
We know this is bogus. What could Biden say? 50% of the voters in that county changed their mind? He says he won and he will say the legislature and courts stole the election. This is the only remedy I see absent my personal preference - toss them all.
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