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Trump and his voters are drawn together by a shared sense of defiance
NBC News ^ | November 25, 2017 | Bill Schneider

Posted on 11/25/2017 4:52:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The American tradition is not deference to authority; it's defiance of authority, even when the cause is hopeless. Sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset once wrote that the United States was, in fact, peopled by “runaways from authority” — settlers seeking freedom from abusive governments and members of dissenting religions seeking freedom from established churches.

Defiance is Donald J. Trump's signature attitude; it was the defining characteristic of the 2016 Trump campaign. Trump defied the political establishment, the news media, conventional wisdom, common decency, former President George W. Bush, Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and even the pope.

Trump's supporters admire his defiance, which they see as fearlessness. They share his contempt for the establishment, the news media, educated elites and the norms of political correctness, all of which helps explain why Trump's base is sticking with him now that he has antagonized the entire national establishment.

In the latest NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll, Trump's job approval rating is down to 38 percent, but 81 percent of Republicans are standing by their president. “We have, actually, great unity in the Republican Party,” Trump boasted.

The Republican Party is now the Trump party: “There is zero appetite for the ‘Never Trump’ movement in the Republican Party of today,” an adviser to a pro-Trump super PAC told the New York Times....

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
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1 posted on 11/25/2017 4:52:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Defiance?

Part of it, but it goes much much deeper than that.


2 posted on 11/25/2017 4:55:50 PM PST by Eddie01
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Defiance?? That is what You-Who-Lost are. We are just enjoying the Common Sense Presidency that is way way way overdue. And we are of course enjoying your sniveling.


3 posted on 11/25/2017 4:57:49 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Eddie01

Please God, spare us the idiotic notions of professors and editorial writers, neither of which have ever accomplished anything in their lives except to write about others.


4 posted on 11/25/2017 4:58:46 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Defying the overbearing establishment who don’t represent us.

Familiar eh? Welcome to the new revolution.


5 posted on 11/25/2017 5:05:29 PM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Defiance is Donald J. Trump's signature attitude; it was the defining characteristic of the 2016 Trump campaign. Trump defied the political establishment, the news media, conventional wisdom, common decency, former President George W. Bush, Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and even the pope.

I like how he snuck “common decency” in the mix. Jerk!

6 posted on 11/25/2017 5:06:02 PM PST by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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“The American tradition is not deference to authority; it’s defiance of authority, even when the cause is hopeless. “

Balderdash. The democrat/republican uniparty has been in control of American politics since the civil war. And they win election after election after election.

Politics is a scam and we’re suckers for playing.


7 posted on 11/25/2017 5:07:08 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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“There is zero appetite for the ‘Never Trump’ movement in the Republican Party of today,” an adviser to a pro-Trump super PAC told the New York Times....


Hmm....


8 posted on 11/25/2017 5:09:41 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Such a move would instantly destroy the norm, established after the Watergate scandal, that the a Republican White House should never use law enforcement agencies to go after political enemies.
The “norm" that has been destroyed is that conservatives believe that “the news” is both true and important. We now know that “the news" is not always true, and if true it is not infrequently a half-truth. And we are aware that we are getting uniform stories from all journalists because they are all, via the AP, in league with each other.

9 posted on 11/25/2017 5:11:30 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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Hmmm, I don’t feel defiant but if the MSM thinks I am I must be because they are so much smarter and informed than me, >s<

I love DT because I love my country and I want to MAGA.


10 posted on 11/25/2017 5:20:35 PM PST by tiki
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To: Eddie01

I agree. Defiance against totalitarianism. Defiance against fascism. Defiance against tyranny. Defiance against loss of our inalienable rights and our right to live in the pursuit of happiness.


11 posted on 11/25/2017 5:30:51 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or ywour own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Defiance is the defense of patriotism!!!


12 posted on 11/25/2017 5:32:36 PM PST by edie1960
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And racism. Don't forget that part. 👹
13 posted on 11/25/2017 5:33:10 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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The clueless class who found themselves in total shock on the night of the election are still trying to explain to the rest of us what’s behind the Trump phenomena. We’re talking about the same people who saw Trump drawing 20,000 - 30,000 people to his rallies on a daily basis, sometimes two or three times a day, and were still convinced Hillary would win by a landslide.


14 posted on 11/25/2017 5:43:56 PM PST by mbrfl
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Trump's supporters admire his defiance, which they see as fearlessness. They share his contempt for the establishment, the news media, educated elites and the norms of political correctness, all of which helps explain why Trump's base is sticking with him now that he has antagonized the entire national establishment.
That sociologist has no clue. And neither do he people at NBC news.


15 posted on 11/25/2017 5:45:37 PM PST by adorno
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I wouldn’t call it defiance, i would call it common sense, something that is dying in our country, plus this crap of “ don’t say anything you might hurt someone’s feelings”... I will stand with Pres. Trump 100% on any and everything he does!!!


16 posted on 11/25/2017 5:49:44 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Eddie01

Defiance of everything that has thoroughly ruined once-great America. Support of the restoration.


17 posted on 11/25/2017 5:50:10 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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,,,,, remember how the DC voters did not abandon Mayor Berry and he was caught on video smoking crack .

Trump has not been proven guilty of anything to date but he has been slandered every way you can imagine and just like Marion Berry’s supporters we are standing by our man through and thin .


18 posted on 11/25/2017 5:57:04 PM PST by Lionheartusa1 ()-: There is nothing DEMOCRATIC about the democrat party ,, stop using that term :-()
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Seems this is the new push by the talking heads, claiming we’re all just so defiant. SMH

Fail - keep poking around morons, you’ll eventually come close to reality.


19 posted on 11/25/2017 6:21:04 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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Trump is despised by "respected Republicans like ... George W. Bush"?? Oh, now that Dubya has snarked on Trump, suddenly he's "respected"? They called him Chimpy, Shrub, the Drunk, the Idiot, a Moron for 8 years, then they spent another 8 years blaming everything on him including the weather, and now, suddenly, he's a respected statesman?

Give me a break, please, I can't even...

20 posted on 11/25/2017 7:40:55 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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