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Donald J. Trump And The Slow Arrival Of Buyers’ Remorse (Democrats still scratching their heads)
The Huffington Post ^ | November 1, 2017 | David Coates and Lauren Tarde

Posted on 11/01/2017 11:35:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

You might be forgiven for thinking ― given all that has happened since Donald J. Trump defeated Hillary Clinton for the U.S. presidency in November 2016 ― that buyers’ remorse would be rampant in contemporary America. But it is not. It is true that Donald J. Trump started his presidency capturing only a minority of the popular vote; and that he is significantly less popular in polls taken today than he was on election day. But very substantial pockets of support remain. They remain among members of his electoral base. They remain among life-long Republicans, not all of whom greeted his emergence as their presidential candidate in 2016 with any great enthusiasm; and they remain – as far as one can tell – in the deepest recesses of the Alt-Right. In those circles at least, there is much talk of seven years of Donald J. Trump in the White House; and for those of us who do not care for that prospect, the immediate political imperative is clear. We need to understand who voted for the Trump-Pence ticket in 2016, why they did so, and whether any or all of them can be dissuaded from doing so again in 2020.

One way of doing that is to build a detailed map of promises made, constituencies mobilized, and commitments delivered; so that – properly armed with the record of aspiration and achievement – the debate in 2018 and 2020 can be built on solid evidence rather than on fake facts.....

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; trump; voters
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No remorse here. I made my first political donation to the Trump Presidential campaign during the Republican primaries and my second to Trump after he won the primary.

Sorry globalists, leftists, and SJWs, I am extremely happy with President Trump. If you take the approval rating of President Trump and the growing disgust that Americans have for the Democrat Party and you have President Trump locked in for victory in 2020.

2 scoops, 2 genders, 2 terms.

21 posted on 11/01/2017 11:50:47 AM PDT by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You might be forgiven for thinking ― given all that has happened since Donald J. Trump defeated Hillary Clinton for the U.S. presidency in November 2016 ― that buyers’ remorse would be rampant in contemporary America.

Why would we be thinking that? I always understood that Trump's not going to get big legislative things done until he manages to drain the swamp somewhat, and they will probably happen in the 2018 midterms and over several months of infighting with the corrupt FBI, DOJ, etc. I think Trump's making lots of progress... but its going to take a little more time to really get the big momentum going.

22 posted on 11/01/2017 11:52:31 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: V_TWIN
“Ah yes, the polls again. Because they were so unbelievably accurate before the election.”

Are you talking about the same polls which always “mysteriously” swing for the Republican candidate in the last 4 to 5 days before an election?

Anyone who thinks that polls are intended to report on elections instead of to “shape” the election is a fool.

23 posted on 11/01/2017 11:55:38 AM PDT by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have remorse over much of congress and the courts. Trump? NO REMORSE!!!


24 posted on 11/01/2017 11:56:54 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
any or all of them can be dissuaded from doing so again in 2020

More likely he will pick up voters.

25 posted on 11/01/2017 11:57:24 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...and that he is significantly less popular in polls taken today than he was on election day.”

Whatever PollHole...


26 posted on 11/01/2017 11:58:56 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

It is, but to us. They are too stupid to recognize the pains they cause others. So this is our form of payback to them. 8>)


27 posted on 11/01/2017 11:59:43 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

28 posted on 11/01/2017 12:01:10 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Based on post-election revelations and performance, it’s Hillary’s voters who should be feeling buyers’ remorse!


29 posted on 11/01/2017 12:04:08 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump is getting heat from Democrats today for blaming yesterday's terrorist attack on this country's lax immigration policies and its sponsors in Congress (e.g., Chuck Schumer), for calling the perpetrator from Uzbekistan an "animal," and for proposing to send the perp to Gitmo as an enemy combatant.

Meanwhile, Trump's predecessor will be remembered as the dope whose administration responded to the Fort Hood terrorist attack by documenting it as a case of "workplace violence."

If the people at the Huffington Post can't figure out why Donald Trump is now the President of the United States, they'll never get it.

30 posted on 11/01/2017 12:10:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wrong conclusion by Coates and Tarde!

The "remorse" which brought about Trump's support was for having voted for self-described "conservative" Republicans who, for 8 years, had done nothing to stop the unraveling and dismantling of the United States Constitution's limitations on tyrannical, coercive power by Progressive Democrats and Republicans.

Still smarting from votes for half-hearted Congressmen and Senators who promise much dedication to freedom when candidates, and then cower before Progressive policy makers when they get to Washington!

31 posted on 11/01/2017 12:13:53 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: weston

My son didn’t vote for Trump, but also recognized just who Hillary was and didn’t vote for her either - he’s no Dem, he just wasn’t sure about Trump.

Now I think he’ll vote for him.


32 posted on 11/01/2017 12:15:53 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Trump and the dismantling of Obama's legacy



"The 'Blank' Presidency"

33 posted on 11/01/2017 12:18:37 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think there are two significant leverage points at present in American politics: the marginal Obama voters and the working class swing voters of the Midwest. The marginal Obama voters are the mostly black but some other minorities as well who normally don’t vote, but made sure to do so because Obama was going to be and then was the first black/minority President. They provided much of his margin in 2008 and 2012, but they stayed home in 2016. The working class swing voters of the Midwest generally vote Democrat, but voted Republican for Reagan and for Trump.

The Dem’s probably need someone with a certain minimal level of melanin content along with a persona to match in order to get that marginal vote out, and the GOP needs to have someone more like Trump/Reagan and less like McCain/Romney/Ryan in order to get that Midwest working class vote to swing their way.

If it’s Trump against a black or minority Dem, all bets are off!


34 posted on 11/01/2017 12:23:02 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They still don't get it. I have noticed something common to all these purveyors of lofty political theory: not one of them has attempted to grasp why Trump voters voted for him by, oh, I don't know, actually asking one?

Instead we have this mishmash of class theory and tribalism. Working class voters voted on the jobs issue. Alt-Right voters, of whom these theorists have only the dimmest conception anyway, did so because they're racist, sexist, etc, etc, essentially because they're bad people. That sounds profound but in fact it's superficial. Demonizing an opponent doesn't explain him away. And stating that a working class woman voted for Trump because she's too uneducated to know her proper interests is impossibly condescending and quite simply ignorant. And if they don't understand these things they're not going to attract anyone "back" to a party that left them.

These principles have so captured the Democrat party leaders that they are essentially unquestionable: that (1) America is evil and oppressive, and that (2) a coalition of the oppressed is to forcibly wrest its rightful due from the oppressor. This used to be fringe politics, IWW "Bolshie" stuff, not mainstream political thought, and it was fringe for a good reason, it's (1) untrue, and (2) oppressive itself to anyone marked by the Left as an "oppressor" regardless of whether they actually are. It's a losing proposition. The Dems ran this under the rubric of identity politics through its 20-year shelf life and managed to squeeze two 0bama administrations out of it, and that's as far as it's likely to get them. And nobody on the Left seems either convinced of this or willing to change the approach of their party.

So first principle here: don't attract Trump voters by repelling them. Is that difficult?

35 posted on 11/01/2017 12:23:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mr. K

I’m enjoying the misery of Democrats....lots


36 posted on 11/01/2017 12:27:02 PM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.6l)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They also think everyone should love communism by now.


37 posted on 11/01/2017 12:30:16 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

did huffpo ever take Trump out of the entertainment section?


38 posted on 11/01/2017 12:33:20 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s hard to feel buyers remorse as felony clinton is decomposing before your very eyes.


39 posted on 11/01/2017 12:47:43 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a huge case of buyer’s jubilation.


40 posted on 11/01/2017 12:50:40 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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