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Poll: Plurality believes far-right groups were *not* mostly to blame for violence in Charlottesville
Hot Air ^ | August 18, 2017 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/18/2017 5:19:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Your daily reminder via Survey Monkey and Axios that virtually all issues are partisan now.

Since our national future of Antifa reds slugging it out with alt-right brownshirts in running street battles looks increasingly assured, we might as well start tracking reaction polls like this:

Watching media coverage, you’d think Trump is nearly alone in believing “both sides” share fault for the Charlottesville violence. Turns out, most Republicans have his back…

Far more blame “the far right groups” for Charlottesville (46%) than “the counter-protesters” (9%), but a remarkable 40% concur with Trump’s assertion that both were equally responsible.

“Beneath the surface, we see the same partisan division: Two-thirds of Democrats (66%) blame the far-right groups rather than the counter-protesters (6%), while Republicans overwhelmingly blame both sides equally (64%). About the same proportion of Republicans blame the far-right groups (18%) as the counter-protestors (17%).”

As Sean Trende put it, “So basically, a plurality agree with Trump’s characterization of the Charlottesville events, or are to his right.” Indeed. Given a binary choice of whether the alt-right or counter-protesters bears most of the blame for the violence, people are far more likely to blame the alt-right. It was their rally, Nazis are known for violence, one of them actually killed someone on the other side. That’s why, I assume, even Republicans are (slightly) more likely to blame the alt-right than the left-wing protesters. Under the circumstances it’s hard to see the white nationalists as relatively blameless for what happened.

Once you include the option of blaming both groups equally, though, you end up with a plurality (49 percent) who say either that blame should be shared or that the counter-protesters were mainly at fault. If you’re wondering why Trump’s job approval has ticked up a point and a half since Sunday despite the brutal media coverage, that may explain some of it. Although more likely it’s the politics of the debate over Confederate monuments that’s helping him, as Democrats have stupidly zeroed in on that despite the fact that most of the public shares Trump’s view that they should be left in place.

As much as partisan interests are driving reaction here, don’t overlook the fact that nearly a quarter of Democrats — 24 percent — agree with Trump that both sides bear equal responsibility for what happened. (It’s even higher among indies at 38 percent, although a majority of 51 percent blames the “far-right groups.”) That’s an impressively large and resilient minority given the torrents of condemnation in stark moral terms that Trump has endured this week. It’s one thing for Republicans to stick with him, as their agenda depends on Trump’s political credibility. Democrats, though, have every partisan reason to hammer him over this, yet a quarter are holding firm on apportioning blame for the violence equally. I wonder if there’s a segment of the left that’s already aware of, and uncomfortable with, Antifa’s tactics and unwilling to absolve them of responsibility for throwing down with neo-Nazis. Probably too much to hope for.


TOPICS: Virginia; Issues; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: antifa; antifaviolence; charlottesvlle; cvariots; cvariotspoll; trump; virginia

1 posted on 08/18/2017 5:19:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To the left, this is grounds for martial law.


2 posted on 08/18/2017 5:21:04 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Far Right” had a permit to protest

Antifa and blm and communists et al did not


3 posted on 08/18/2017 5:25:30 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Search "Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy tweets" and pass those links on to all you know)
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To: All

If people actually spent time looking into this story most of them would agree with President Trump.


4 posted on 08/18/2017 5:29:05 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump was absolutely correct and the so called Republicans smashing his words are wrong and will pay next year.


5 posted on 08/18/2017 5:29:07 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: A_Former_Democrat

This is the video everyone needs to see. The police forced the people in the park DIRECTLY into the large group of Antifa’s and Black Lives Matter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TWCEV5U09c


6 posted on 08/18/2017 5:29:18 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Where did the directive originate?


7 posted on 08/18/2017 5:30:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: escapefromboston
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This is Dre Harris. He just received over $100,000 pretending to be a victim in Charlottesville.

8 posted on 08/18/2017 5:32:25 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve been watching Antifa start trouble all over for months. This is not new.


9 posted on 08/18/2017 5:32:30 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The polls are always skewed Demonrat by the Ministry of Propoganda so the Demonrats have to be crapping their pants even more now. They are not used to someone who fights back and it has rendered them violent and raging. Americans do not like thugs.


10 posted on 08/18/2017 5:36:29 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Governor of Virginia.

If you go to about 6:00, this video shows the police clearing the park.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eN89cqHzyHs


11 posted on 08/18/2017 5:38:10 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sensible people: “It takes two to tango.”
Totalitarian Left: “That sounds like something a Nazi would say.”


12 posted on 08/18/2017 5:38:56 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care what the polls show. This endless polling on every conceivable issue is divisive and stupid.


13 posted on 08/18/2017 5:40:27 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Bodleian_Girl

TY!


14 posted on 08/18/2017 5:43:59 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happening sometime soon—

There will be a tea party type rally, with only conservatives, no nazis anywhere in sight. the local liberal pol will tell the cops to stand down (as always). Then antifa and BLM will come in and beat them, maybe even kill some. Then the media will say they deserved it because they are nazis.


15 posted on 08/18/2017 5:45:37 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (The only thing standing in the way of full blown leftist totalitarianism in America is Donald Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think it was violence on both sides. I think the antifa and BLM came in looking for a fight and the protestors fought back. The libs knew what would happen. That’s why McCauliff called off the cops (just like the Berkeley Mayor). He didn’t want the left’s footsoldiers, antifa and BLM getting arrested for starting it.


16 posted on 08/18/2017 5:49:39 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (The only thing standing in the way of full blown leftist totalitarianism in America is Donald Trump)
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To: Cubs Fan

Great post.

White people defending themselves against violent antifa communists and BLM thugs who are throwing frozen water bottles, soda cans filled with cement, bags of urine, swinging bats, etc.

To the left, this is “right wing” violence.


17 posted on 08/18/2017 6:17:35 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Poll: Plurality believes far-right groups were *not* mostly to blame for violence in Charlottesville

Wonder why they worded it like that? I thought the far-right groups were SOLELY to blame.

18 posted on 08/18/2017 6:24:12 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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