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We missed what was so effective about Donald Trump’s campaign speeches
Vox ^ | December 6, 2016 | Mike Conczal

Posted on 12/11/2016 9:59:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve started to rewatch Trump rallies from the month before he was elected president. I’ve seen some of them before, but that was always with the presumption he was unlikely to win. Now I watch them trying to figure out how he did it, and how the Democrats can rebuild their economic message out of this mess....

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; campaignspeeches; economy; fakenews; hillary; jobs; realpropaganda; trump; trump2016; vox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor clueless lib indeed

The strategy of faking economic news does not work. Everyone knows people are out of work and that the unemployment rate is not in the 4% range.


21 posted on 12/11/2016 10:32:05 PM PST by stanne
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

SPOT ON!


22 posted on 12/11/2016 10:32:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A nice try but a swing and a miss. They just cannot believe that ultimately, racism is not at the bottom of it all.
23 posted on 12/11/2016 10:32:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Now I watch them trying to figure out how he did it,...

WARNING: Out-of-touch, dangerous dolt ALERT!

24 posted on 12/11/2016 10:41:23 PM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Economic growth would have likely been anemic at best under a Republican Presidency during this period, but I seriously doubt a Republican would have doubled down on clearly failing statist policies and increasing regulatory burdens that actually made it worse than it would have been otherwise. They have no ability to envision impact upon the private sector because it’s utterly alien to them, yet they continue to attempt rule by dictat.


25 posted on 12/11/2016 10:45:11 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL - so the problem is how to convince people that you are right. It has nothing to do with actually being right. “The People” know when you are trying to enslave them. There is no correct rhetoric to convince them to want slavery. That is the Democrats’ conundrum. And it only took me a few lines of text to define their problem. Perhaps if they didn’t want to enslave others they would have better luck. . .but then, they would be Republicans.


26 posted on 12/11/2016 10:48:06 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s at least at square one, beginning to realize how screwed the Democrats are if Trump delivers on a fraction of what he’s been talking about. It’s just dawning on this guy that the vast majority of the “working class” don’t want a $15.00 an hour job flipping burgers or an increase in their welfare payments; they wan’t an actual productive and remunerative role to play in society. The Democrats know that culturally they are way out of step with the working class, but they thought that they could at least appeal on “economic issues” by tossing out their cornucopia of welfare benefits. Now they’re going to start to understand that that won’t do the trick.


27 posted on 12/11/2016 10:53:13 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals don’t have an economic message. Their entire philosophy amounts to growing govt and collecting taxes so they can filter money to those that will help them gain and maintain political power. That kind of policy leads to an oligarchy. One that by it’s very existence leads to the poverty of all others.

The problem for liberals is they can never admit what their policies ultimately lead to. Liberals have to lie their asses off and claim to be the opposite of what they really are.


28 posted on 12/11/2016 10:53:55 PM PST by Bullish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Libs want to rebuild their economic message. Hmmm. Maybe something different from Das Kapital would be a healthy step.


29 posted on 12/11/2016 10:56:25 PM PST by lurk (TEat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m glad they don’t see it...half a Nation walking around after swallowing the hook. Some times it’s more humane to the fish, to stomp its head and not throw it back.


30 posted on 12/11/2016 11:01:19 PM PST by Golfinsocal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is only one Donald Trump type of person in most people’s lifetime. There will be imitators on both sides, but the circumstances will never be exactly the same.
We have only begun to learn from this man.
He is a true American Original.


31 posted on 12/11/2016 11:06:41 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Fungi
Never trust a man with three consecutive consonants in his name.

Zbigniew Brzezinski would not be amused.

32 posted on 12/11/2016 11:08:24 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1
"Zbigniew Brzezinski would not be amused."

Nor would Winston Churchill. ;)

33 posted on 12/11/2016 11:28:26 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All this “white nationalism” and “racism” that Trump spews? They never quote any.

This creep accuses Trump of spewing racism and nationalism in speeches that are on YouTube. He knows his readers will never bother to view the speeches.


34 posted on 12/11/2016 11:29:52 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Khrushchev? Is four consonants worse than three?


35 posted on 12/11/2016 11:43:38 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, to start with, they should have chosen a better candidate. The majority of the American people in 1992 and 1996 voted NOT BILL, but he was a much better candidates on all levels. Remember the bumper stickers that said I didn’t vote for HIM or HER?

Given that the economy was much worse than during the toon’s years, many black people are worse off than ever despite Democrat’s promises, and absolutely no visible effort made to keep American Business within the continental USA, and then flooding the country with illegal aliens who either take lower wages or participate in violent gangs, drug trafficking, and human bondage- what did they expect?

The TEA party movement should have been a warning, but they just ridiculed it and went right on marching off the cliff. Sooner or later, the American people were bound to object in mass - just as they did when Reagan won. Here’s hoping that the Uni-party doesn’t co-opt as much as it did under Reagan, and that after 8 years, there is a real American to run instead of a Globalist loving GHWB type.

All over the world, there are regime changes brought about by violent revolution of the people against tyrants. America has been blessed to have avoided wars on US soil for a long long time, and our revolutions have taken place at the ballot box since the end of the Civil War.

I truly believe that this election was the last chance for the Republic. I pray daily that God will use the new Administration to restore our Republic and return our nation to traditional values and faith, and drive the evil out. If that doesn’t happen, then its TEOTWAWKI.


36 posted on 12/11/2016 11:53:13 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truth. Something the Oligarchs lost a long time ago.


37 posted on 12/11/2016 11:53:32 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WTF is “virulent ethnic nationalism” as mentioned in the article?


38 posted on 12/11/2016 11:58:32 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Pollster1
"Is four consonants worse than three?

Lets ask Philo Farnsworth. (Television pioneer).

39 posted on 12/12/2016 12:03:28 AM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Pikachu_Dad
My favorite clueless line from this article:

Obviously, people in poverty are worse off than others..

Brought to mind a little incident at the supermarket checkout. I had one of the children with me, and he looked at the minced beef and cheap cold cuts in the cart. Then at the obese woman in front of us, who was paying for several pounds of prime sirloin - with food stamps.

"Daddy, why don't we ever have steak?"

"Sorry, son, we're not poor enough to afford steak."

There is a simple reason Donald Trump didn't make any promises to the parasites. Good for him.

40 posted on 12/12/2016 12:08:40 AM PST by John Locke
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